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Old 04-08-2010, 08:19 PM   #41
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Live satellite time is apparently a lot more expensive than just beaming it to the network as a pre-tape.
do you like any sports xero?
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:22 PM   #42
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:37 PM   #43
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I don't.
right well in sport, if you watch on tape delay instead of live, i feel it really loses a lot of its appeal and iv heard a lot of people saying this too. its the same for live wrestling. who doesn't like sports???
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:49 PM   #44
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Someone who enjoys taped wrestling as much as "live", I suppose.
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:22 PM   #45
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I don't know to be honest. The thought of it being "live" screws with my head I guess because I get more interested in catching it. I guess it's the excitement of it happening in the now and not 3 days later. I'd want to watch SD a bit more if it was live for some reason.

I don't like sports either, btw.

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Old 04-08-2010, 10:28 PM   #46
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It is unpredictable because if something "huge" happens at a live taping, chances are you will hear about it somehow even if you try to avoid spoilers.

Live shows definitely have a different feel.


There really is no other way to answer this question. Live is better. It's like watching a football game live vs. watching a football game you recorded on your DVR 4 days later.
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:36 PM   #47
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:02 PM   #48
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Live is better for the fact if Velver Sky's titties come out we get to see them! Instead of a big blur, this was a rather easy question. Why else does anyone watch TNA?
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:04 PM   #49
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Ignoring costs for producing a live show and spoilers hurting ratings, doing a live show means in theory you need to work harder than a taped show since any mistake or bad segment on a tape show can be edited out unlike on a live show.

Its sort of like going to a live concert vs watching a music video, the singer in a live concert needs to focus on preparing and delivering a good show since you only get one shot at that event while the music video can be edited or parts re-taped to make it look better on tv.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:21 PM   #50
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People enjoy live TV because it creates the idea that you're seeing something unfold as it happens, and that anything can happen. There is a reason why it's done.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:24 PM   #51
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I could also care less about how the ratings are affected, or how cost efficient something is. Why would any fan care about those things unless they were literally working for the company?
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:31 PM   #52
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I could also care less about how the ratings are affected, or how cost efficient something is. Why would any fan care about those things unless they were literally working for the company?
I agree with this.

However, as a fan, it just doesn't make a difference to me. I'm clearly in the minority and that's fine.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:38 PM   #53
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I guess it's a matter of whether you get that "this is happening right this instant" feeling or not. Since it's a "feelilng" and not really a tangible thing, it's hard to argue for or against it.
I do think it exists though, which is why live television is done. It's similar to how some people get more joy from hearing a song on the radio.

I do agree that it has no real effect on things as far as content or quality is concerned. The product is the product. I would compare it to something like Saturday Night Live, on which the jokes and writing are just as good or bad regardless of whether it's live, taped, or re-ran.
But for some reason there's a different feeling when watching SNL live, compared to reruns you're seeing for the first time.
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Sometimes i can put up with things not being live, not that obsessed about it overall, cant watch football(soccer) on a repeat though unless its a highlight show. Wrestling shows like smackdown im just used to not being live but i find myself skipping some of it, i probably wouldnt if it was live come to think of it.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:08 AM   #55
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Just think, if Wrestlemania was taped they could have cut the part out of the Bret/Vince match where Bret blew up and had to sit down on a chair.

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And they could have spliced in an exciting Sid promo instead of an old boring Bret promo! GOLD!
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:13 AM   #57
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I could also care less about how the ratings are affected, or how cost efficient something is. Why would any fan care about those things unless they were literally working for the company?
The thing is, those ratings demonstrated that the fandom in general seems unaffected. When Smackdown has gone live, it's had no effect on the ratings. While it doesn't impact your enjoyment, it certainly demonstrates how it impacts others: Not much.

I'll say one thing, though: I'd rather they spend the money on making the show better than making it live. Honestly, as they're not going to do that, I can't care less. I DVR Raw anyway. only times I watch live wrestling are the Rumble and Mania, and even then, it's more about seeing it when it first comes out (like a movie) than needing it to be live.

I understand I may be the minority on here, but if we're weighing in, that's my two cents. Live means nothing to me. Not on a scripted show, at least. It doesn't even further any such illusion.
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I've gone spoiler free since before Wrestlemania. The damn people who went all Swagger is Champ kind of ruined that moment for me. I would have marked out so hard seeing it "live" instead of reading it here.

So in a way spoilers & tapings suck. It takes away the shock value and what not.


but on the other hand, having something huge like Swagger winning the title might have improved the ratings as people woulde want to tune in to see it happen.



Double edged sword.
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I was considering this very question the other day.

Live is good. Live is even preferable. But live is not the answer to "How do you make WWE better?" like a lot of people seem to think it is.

I wonder how many of the important fans (the WWE Universe, not us) even know that it's not live. How many are shocked that they have to go to the taping on a Tuesday?

I considered the same point with regard to a "scripted show" as KK did, but then I figured that I always try to watch LOST as soon as I can. Perhaps that suffers from the same kind of "Spoiler" stigma as wrestling though.
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I doubt people would have tuned in to see an advertised surprise. WWE tried to do it with Angle, who at least had the benefit of being somewhat of a face at the time. Ideally, people would want to see the face come in and get the title....And the ratings stayed the same.

Swagger's more an IWC darling than anything else, and the majority of the IWC is already going to watch or not. The "shock value" of someone winning out of nowhere is going to be limited. This is why they didn't do it in the Attitude Era. There's just limited benefit.

Yes, I know I'm going to get shit from the "wish fulfillment" crowd.
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I was considering this very question the other day.

Live is good. Live is even preferable. But live is not the answer to "How do you make WWE better?" like a lot of people seem to think it is.

I wonder how many of the important fans (the WWE Universe, not us) even know that it's not live. How many are shocked that they have to go to the taping on a Tuesday?

I considered the same point with regard to a "scripted show" as KK did, but then I figured that I always try to watch LOST as soon as I can. Perhaps that suffers from the same kind of "Spoiler" stigma as wrestling though.
I gotta admit, I understand why people want to watch a show as it airs, but with DVR technology, I may never watch a regular TV show live again. PPVs are an exception, especially since I'm paying for the privelege of watching it now instead of buying it on DVD, but most stuff, I don't care about.

But I like my media that way. I like my MP3 player, my ereader, and my DVR. I've even considered canceling my cable altogether in the past, because between DVD purchases and Netflix, I can catch most of the stuff I want if I don't mind waiting a while. I don't bother with the radio except for news, I haven't touched a paper book in months (unless you count volume 1 of Neil Gaiman's Sandman, but since that's a graphic novel....)

I get that people want to watch the "first run" deal, but I'm not sure it matters if that's live or not. And yeah, I do wonder how many people know it's not live. They used to even use the word "live" a lot, though not in any way specifically misleading. The only reason I knew Smackdown was taped early on was the fact that I went to a couple of shows. I mean, I never looked at results or spoilers to be honest.

I'm sure I would have found out eventually, but I didn't care and since I didn't look, there was no real indicator. Except that the shows were TV tapings. And unless you're already part of the IWC, you probably don't need to worry about SD spoilers anyway. If you're coming to TPWW, for example, spoilers are an issue. Otherwise, it's hard to see it being much of a problem.
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Would Smackdown or TNA as a live show be better than taped? Yes.

Why?

Because live shows are better than taped shows.

Why?

Because I will read the spoilers.

Why?

Because I can.

But if you really don't want to know you won't read the spoilers!

I can't do that.
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Remember when RAW was taped in advance? That led to a dissadvantage for the WWE in the Monday Night Wars.

I don't think Smackdown should be live, though I'd prefer it because I often read the spoilers to figure out whether I should watch it or not.

But TNA going live is something they have to do to keep in buisness with the WWE and not just simply be an afterthought. The WWE thinks now that TNA can and may be a threat. Will it be soon? Probably not. A year or so down the road? Probably.

Smackdown is something that can or can't be live. It doesn't matter which way it goes, but TNA live on Mondays is a part of natural progression to become a legitamite contender with the WWE.
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I'd be interested to hear some UK opinions on this, given that Raw wasn't shown live for years and is now shown live at 2am.

How many stay up to watch? How many DVR/Sky+ it? How many catch the repeat? Does this change your enjoyment of the product?
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FTR, I do feel that PPVs have to be live. That's the one exception and I do feel it makes things better. Otherwise I don't really care if it's live or taped.

I think that's the best way I can put it. I just don't care whether it's taped or not.
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no more spoilers!! for smackdown it would be better, for tna ??? ehhhhh?
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