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Old 06-16-2010, 01:32 PM   #41
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It's not as though Ocarina of Time isn't still one of the best games in existence, and more fun than half the crap that comes out. Those graphics are worse than these. The day I care is the day I should probably stop playing video games.
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I don't know. Maybe that's why we clash.


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It's not as though Ocarina of Time isn't still one of the best games in existence, and more fun than half the crap that comes out. Those graphics are worse than these. The day I care is the day I should probably stop playing video games.
Yeah but come on if ppl didnt care about graphics we would still have THIS as games

Its called PROGRESS, Nintendo obviously doesnt want it anymore because they figured they cant compete with Sony and Microsoft so they are just using they franchises because if it has "Zelda" or "Mario" on it, ppl will be buying it even if the graphics look like the inside of someone's ASS!
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Yeah but come on if ppl didnt care about graphics we would still have THIS as games

Its called PROGRESS, Nintendo obviously doesnt want it anymore because they figured they cant compete with Sony and Microsoft so they are just using they franchises because if it has "Zelda" or "Mario" on it, ppl will be buying it even if the graphics look like the inside of someone's ASS!
And that still has more action in it than Heavy Rain.

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And that still has more action in it than Heavy Rain.

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I think a lot of this is just ppl going "LOL guys I dont like any new games because I am so smart and only like old games LOL". Its like old ppl who drive cars from like 1982 and talk about how they are better!
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I think a lot of this is just ppl going "LOL guys I dont like any new games because I am so smart and only like old games LOL". Its like old ppl who drive cars from like 1982 and talk about how they are better!
Not really, there are plenty of fantastic experiences to be had on all 3 current consoles, but to dismiss one for having slightly inferior graphics is retarded.

The best thing to the power of the 360/PS3 is the massive environments it can achieve. I wouldn't have honestly cared if they skipped HD this gen but still had the same power, because something like Fallout 3 would be incredible even with N64 level graphics.
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Sure, but it eventually got to a point where it wasn't a big deal anymore. The progress you speak of was more than just graphics. The nature of games changed so much. Advancements in the graphics doesn't mean very much to me anymore.
I'm not saying games shouldn't continue to push the envelope and develop better graphics and bigger worlds/etc., but a good game is a good game.
Blasting a 2010 game for having slightly outdated graphics isn't the same thing as believing that technology should move on from Atari.


Also, Donkey Kong, Galaga, Dig Dug and any of those games are still fantastic in all their simplicity.
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Sure, but it eventually got to a point where it wasn't a big deal anymore. The progress you speak of was more than just graphics. The nature of games changed so much. Advancements in the graphics doesn't mean very much to me anymore.
I'm not saying games shouldn't continue to push the envelope and develop better graphics and bigger worlds/etc., but a good game is a good game.
Blasting a 2010 game for having slightly outdated graphics isn't the same thing as believing that technology should move on from Atari.


Also, Donkey Kong, Galaga, Dig Dug and any of those games are still fantastic in all their simplicity.

No those games suck because they are old now. Old games must be thrown out and forgotten about
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I think a lot of this is just ppl going "LOL guys I dont like any new games because I am so smart and only like old games LOL". Its like old ppl who drive cars from like 1982 and talk about how they are better!
Not the case at all. I'm all for new games, and some of them are amazing. It doesn't mean that older games get any worse, or should be any less appreciated as the technology advances. It's just ridiculous to act like outdated graphics neccesarily matter.
Especially since Zelda games aren't meant to look real.
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Also, in response to your "Wii can't compete and people just buy the games because Zelda or Mario are in it"...

That's because of the quality. Nintendo's franchises are established brands based on the fact that people know they are going to get quality from generation to generation.
I don't think everyone is just eating it up based on the name. If the games weren't still any good, people would give up on them.
That's Nintendo's way of competing. They focus on making good games with the characters they have earned a reputation with, and try to consistently deliver. They're going for quality, and relying on a market they've earned.
What's wrong with that? Should their entire focus be on graphics instead of fun?
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People have said Twilight Princess aged much faster than Wind Waker precisely because it went for realistic visuals.
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I don't subscribe the idea of games aging visually anymore than I do with movies.
If a game is great, it will likely always be great. I could care less if it looks like shit compared to modern graphics. If you revisit Nintendo 64, you'll find how horribly the graphics have "aged." This is no suprise, but the games are still just as good. If it plays well, it's still one of the best games out there.

I would imagine some of the people who want to leave old games in the dust are the same types who can't sit through a black and white movie
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Disney can't compete with other studios, so they make things with "Mickey Mouse" or "Buzz Lightyear" in it, and ppl will buy it even though the animation looks like the inside of someones ASS
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I don't subscribe the idea of games aging visually anymore than I do with movies.
If a game is great, it will likely always be great. I could care less if it looks like shit compared to modern graphics. If you revisit Nintendo 64, you'll find how horribly the graphics have "aged." This is no suprise, but the games are still just as good. If it plays well, it's still one of the best games out there.

I would imagine some of the people who want to leave old games in the dust are the same types who can't sit through a black and white movie
I'm strictly talking about visuals, though, as per the current convo. Of course Zeldas play awesome. It's just a well documented commentary that realistic games age worse than highly stylized ones.

Super Mario 64 looks more vibrant and alive than Uncharted.
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Seriously though, you have to expect Disney to makes games with Disney characters in it.
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I'm not talking about games. It was an analogy between the companies.

Using established characters is competing. There is nothing wrong with building a company around the established properties that have earned their reputation. People like a brand they can trust, with a standard of quality that they can get behind.
I don't understand why he, or anyone else, would consider this a bad thing.
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Dont get me wrong bro but its just that Nintendo dont have to bother with REAL quality cuz they can just go on the brand name alone. I dont understand the reason to make BAD graphics today when they can make both good graphics and good gameplay. Also bad graphics ruin the gameplay cause ur distracted by how horrible everything looks and cant really "get into" the world which is important in game like Zelda.
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Well that's the rub. You consider real quality to be graphics, and don't consider the brand name nintendo games to possess great quality.
I consider quality to be more than that, and feel nintendo brings it. At least when it comes to Mario and Zelda games.
I don't see how this is distracting. It's not like it's stick figures. Were you distracted by graphics in games 5 years ago? Because these are no different.
I think you're just hung up on graphics. Just because it distracts you doesn't mean it's a real distraction.

You're also a poo poo face.
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Well that's the rub. You consider real quality to be graphics, and don't consider the brand name nintendo games to possess great quality.
I consider quality to be more than that, and feel nintendo brings it. At least when it comes to Mario and Zelda games.
I don't see how this is distracting. It's not like it's stick figures. Were you distracted by graphics in games 5 years ago? Because these are no different.
I think you're just hung up on graphics. Just because it distracts you doesn't mean it's a real distraction.

You're also a poo poo face.


Hahaha u have to resort to name calling and ur the ones calling me names because ur not confident in yourselves and try to improve ur confidence by being elitist and acting all smart on the web. This aint english class...

Back on topic, no, those graphics didnt distract me back then because it was the cutting edge back then. But today, yeah its distracting because I am used to good graphics now so seeing crap like this distracts me from whatever good gameplay there may be.
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If they cancel the space program, graphics won't continue to progress. How can you reconcile these two things?
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lololol how is the "space program" (aka steal money program) related to VIDEO GAME graphics. Graphics are advanced by the gaming industry which works to make profits and works in competition with other companies to constantly improve things. Space industry or not, they will continue to compete for business. I dont see how u relate the two.

I dont get how u guys can "not be distracted by horrible graphics" when playing a 3d game. Its fine to have old graphics in a 2d game, but in a 3d one, that just distracts you when u see the jagged edges and lack of realism.
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Everyone knows that video game graphics are fueled by a rare mineral that NASA discovered on the moon. You're a fucking idiot.
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Everyone knows that video game graphics are fueled by a rare mineral that NASA discovered on the moon. You're a fucking idiot.
This joke would have been funny in 2nd grade
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In 2nd grade graphics were horrible. Why would I want to revisit such a time?
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U still dont get what im sayin dont u? In 2nd grade the graphics we had was the best ones we could get so it looked good FOR ITS TIME. I bet u if in 2nd grade they released a game that looked like an Atari 2600 game u would trash it then too!
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In 2nd grade I would probably trash it because I would be akin to BillyBonez

I also thought space exploration was great though, so who knows.

Have you considered not being the way you are?
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In 2nd grade I would probably trash it because I would be akin to BillyBonez

I also thought space exploration was great though, so who knows.

Have you considered not being the way you are?
How is this related to my points?

Everybody would trash it, u would trash it now because a game should have decent graphics today unless it is going for the "retro" thing like the DS Contra game which is mad fun.

I think space exploration is great. But NASA is not because they steal money and dont do much. It would work better with private space exploration companies because competition creates BETTER PRODUCTS.

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Maybe if we can put a man on Mars nintendo games wouldn't look like the inside of someones ASS
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Yes but Jeritron is just Efin around now because he aint got nothing else to say.
I dunno, if u guys like this sort of awful graphics, more power to you I guess but ill stick to developers who actually TRY to make a game look halway decent.
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I prefer games that look like the inside of someones ASS. It pulls me in more. You got a problem with that?
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Capcom almost allways has good graphics, EA does too, Whoever makes Modern Warfare games...I guess thats 3...
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