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Old 07-06-2010, 06:47 PM   #41
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I loved this movie as a kid, but watching it yesterday I'm not sure how it made so much money. I guess the Will Smith summer blockbuster factor + the White House exploding and throw in the guy from Jurassic Park, but it has aged in a more "it's so bad it's good" than "it's good" way. Lots of the explosions look like they are something you would see in a direct-to-DVD now. Not the movie's fault, but it's noticeable now.

Also how the hell did the people with spears take down the ship?
I'm pretty sure they were just natives celebrating about the ship that was downed in their area
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Old 07-06-2010, 06:48 PM   #42
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Or maybe they figure "This guy is a drunk hick, why would they have abducted him"

Just like no one believed Chunk that Michael Jackson stopped at his house to use the bathroom.
He didn't...but his sister did
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I thought all of his crazy scenes were pre invasion.
Nah in Area 51 when they are trying to find pilot's Dennis Quaid basically says he wants his revenge for them abducting him. Everyone's proper reaction should be like "Yeah let's kick their ass!" Instead it's "This guy is a fuckin nutcase."
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And I'm fairly sure all of the Randy Quaid is crazy stuff came before the aliens showed up
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Nah in Area 51 when they are trying to find pilot's Dennis Quaid basically says he wants his revenge for them abducting him. Everyone's proper reaction should be like "Yeah let's kick their ass!" Instead it's "This guy is a fuckin nutcase."
True. what he said was also pretty much the ramblings of a crazy guy though. I think it was more designed as a joke for the audience
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Or maybe they figure "This guy is a drunk hick, why would they have abducted him"

Just like no one believed Chunk that Michael Jackson stopped at his house to use the bathroom.
I think you give the guy the benefit of the doubt when Aliens are laying waste to your world. I think's the polite thing to do.
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Well it was Animal Mother recruiting pilots for fuck sake....hes not good at polite.
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I also love how in ID4 the US figures out the weakness, and when they tell all the foreign nations, they are all like "Bout time the US figured it out" or some shit, as if the world depends on us for everything. So Patriotic.
Here is another thing. Now the Earthlings have figured out to take the Aliens down they just destroy the "Primary Weapon."

So if you are the Aliens you had to have heard what happened in New Mexico, and a few other places. So don't you stop using the Primary weapon and come up with another strategy?

You have to have other big weapons that would help you in this situation.
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Well it was Animal Mother recruiting pilots for fuck sake....hes not good at polite.
At least his fellow crop dusters could have been though.
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The Quaid men have survived Independence Day and The Day After Tomorrow. That's one tough family.
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and Jaws 3-D
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While we're kinda on the topic of ID4, Bill Pullman's character, Republican or Democrat?
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I'm not sure. He's a fighter pilot and Vivica A. Fox didn't vote for him, so that could mean Republican. But he's also young and his wife calls him idealistic.
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A quick search says that in the novelization it mentions he is a Democrat.

Don't think it is mentioned in the movie.

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President Thomas J. Whitmore

* President in: Independence Day
* Whitmore fought in Operation Desert Storm as a fighter pilot. He is married to Marilyn Whitmore and has one daughter, Patricia. As president, he was criticized by political pundits in Washington for his inexperience in politics as well as his youth. The Orange County Register named President Whitmore one of the sexiest men of the year on July 2, the day the aliens arrived on Earth.
* Before the alien invasion, Whitmore's approval rating slipped below forty percent.
* Whitmore personally led surviving Earth resistance military forces into battle against alien invasion/occupation forces after the death of his wife. thus making him the first US commander-in-chief to lead troops in combat since James Madison took command of a rearguard artillery battery to cover the retreat of the US Army during the attack on Washington DC in the War of 1812.
* Fired his Secretary of Defense in Area 51
* Had communicated with a captured alien through ESP thus realizing their true intentions of entering earth and killing all of mankind and takings all natural resources, this makes him decide on nuking them to eliminate them.
* Party Affiliation: Democrat (mentioned in novel)
* Played by: Bill Pullman
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Are movie novelizations canon?
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I'll just go ask Bill Pullman about this. I think he works in a car wash down the street from my house.
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There is no way Vivica A. Fox's character voted republican
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we just need to get him some pilot training and some aliens to kill, and that sounds like a certain current president
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There is no way Vivica A. Fox's character voted republican
Black stripper with a kid, definitely democrat.
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Maybe she meant in the primary and she didn't vote in the general.
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I can never decide whether the best bit is where the scientists do an 'autopsy' on a live Alien with no military prescence or where the stripper finds the indestructible truck with the keys inside it and starts picking up hitch hikers.
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Wrath of Khan or Empire Strikes Back.
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I didn't watch that but I hope Short Circuit 2 was mentioned
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Wrath of Khan or Empire Strikes Back.
Everyone thought Wrath of Khan is lightyears better than the Motion Picture.
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