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Old 12-06-2010, 06:48 PM   #41
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I think I would have been more surprised and it been more news-worthy had he shown up to the PPV IN IT instead of OUT OF IT. I assume OUT OF IT for Jeff Hardy is as usual as Matt Hardy at a Sunday buffet
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Old 12-06-2010, 06:58 PM   #42
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Jeff Hardy, overrated as he is, has had multiple opportunities in both WWE and TNA to be a top level wrestler who accomplishes great things, has great matches, and is remembered by fans in a positive way. Yet, he continues to throw all that away. He has no respect for the business, or the fans.
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:06 PM   #43
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I dont buy that shit. I used to pull 18 hour guard shifts every day for weeks at a time, with little to no sleep, and never once did someone think I was wasted.

Shit, I didnt sleep until my 3rd night of bootcamp. I was awake 72 plus hours with alot more stress going on than jeff, and you know what? I was tired, not all fucked up.

Same can be said for every person I ever worked with. if you see someone is exhausted, you wouldnt mistake it with being drunk or on drugs.
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:08 PM   #44
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Add in someone who is due in court for durg charges this week, and has a long history of drug issues.

yeah, totally off base and JUMPING INTO conclusions.
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Add in someone who is due in court for durg charges this week, and has a long history of drug issues.

yeah, totally off base and JUMPING INTO conclusions.
...And then they (The Hardys) talk about "this business needs change" and all that crap. Yeah, it needs change...it needs to get rid of guys who don't appreciate what's given to them.
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:20 PM   #46
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i would say that vince is probably laughing his ass off at TNA for hiring this useless piece of shit, but i doubt he really gives a fuck about anything having to do with TNA
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If the legal issues go away, pretty sure Vince would take him back in a heart beat.

The constant bouts of idiocy in this forum never cease to amaze me.
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vince wants some shitstain drug addict who took it upon himself to bad mouth one of his most over talents at a waffle house working for him?

yeah, i'm the idiot...
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*GASP....... Dixie should fire his strung out ass...... This guy is The New Generation Scott Hall, only with less than half the talent......
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vince wants some shitstain drug addict who took it upon himself to bad mouth one of his most over talents at a waffle house working for him?

yeah, i'm the idiot...
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*GASP....... Dixie should fire his strung out ass...... This guy is The New Generation Scott Hall, only with less than half the talent......
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Old 12-06-2010, 09:05 PM   #52
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Cant the dude just be tired?
Okay, I'm going to start by pointing out I'm not buying into this story as credible. I almost wish it was, because I alluded to it happening last week, but honestly, I don't want Hardy to fail.

But I'm going to address this hypothetically. Can't the dude just be tired?

Yes, in the same way a two-time bank robber walking into a bank with a ski mask, a duffel bag, and a suspicious bulge in his pocket might just be there to open an account.

If it was someone who hadn't been fired for drugs before, or whose trailer didn't have enough drugs to fuel Hollywood into 2017, people wouldn't be as quick to buy it.

But if you're Jeff Hardy, odds are if you're out of it, it's drugs. If he was feeling run down, he'd probably be on enough stimulants to explode the heart of a blue whale.

Does it mean he conclusively can't just be tired? No. But we're talking potential drug abuse by a drug abuser in an abuse-heavy industry.
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Old 12-06-2010, 09:14 PM   #53
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How can he be tired? TNA barely has shows outside of Orlando.
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Tell me why Jeff Hardy is a good choice for TNA World Champion again?
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Tell me why Jeff Hardy is a good choice for TNA World Champion again?
"Because the fans like him! He wears all this bright paint and does all these hand signals that the fans really like!"
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Old 12-06-2010, 09:32 PM   #58
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Except he's a heel now so there goes that.

TNA's audience still chants "you sold out" whenever anyone turns heel and they are quite serious when they do. The dumbest smarks in the business are in Orlando.
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Except he's a heel now so there goes that.

TNA's audience still chants "you sold out" whenever anyone turns heel and they are quite serious when they do. The dumbest smarks in the business are in Orlando.
Well, in that case...in TNA's eyes, he was their top face, so turning him would be something like Austin turning in '01, or The Rock turning in '98...you know...in TNA's eyes.
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lol. Would it be funny if their world champ was convicted and sentenced before they got the belt off him?
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It appears that when the subject turns to Jeff Hardy, a lot of you switch off and go into internet mongoloid mode. Not sure I've ever seen so many overall daft posts in one thread.
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Definitely the drugs. He probably snorted some coke, thought he could do the show, and showed up. Realized he was out of it, snorted some more, which made him more paranoid and assed out then he realized he can't perform cuz he felt too sketchy about it, let alone function as a normal person. From personal experiences, doing too much coke, you can't even/don't wanna leave your house once you cross that line. That plus all the other pills he was taking was weighing him down.
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regardless hardy should be fired
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If it was because of drugs, he's an idiot who cares little for the safety of his fellow performers

If it was because of fatigue, he's an idiot who cares little for the safety of his fellow performers.

It's up to him to make sure he is in safe shape to wrestle, that includes getting rest and staying off the drugs. Either way, Hardy dropped the ball big time here.
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I think I would have been more surprised and it been more news-worthy had he shown up to the PPV IN IT instead of OUT OF IT. I assume OUT OF IT for Jeff Hardy is as usual as Matt Hardy at a Sunday buffet
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Jeff Hardy, overrated as he is, has had multiple opportunities in both WWE and TNA to be a top level wrestler who accomplishes great things, has great matches, and is remembered by fans in a positive way. Yet, he continues to throw all that away. He has no respect for the business, or the fans.
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what a fucking joke


i would say that vince is probably laughing his ass off at TNA for hiring this useless piece of shit, but i doubt he really gives a fuck about anything having to do with TNA
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vince wants some shitstain drug addict who took it upon himself to bad mouth one of his most over talents at a waffle house working for him?

yeah, i'm the idiot...
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*GASP....... Dixie should fire his strung out ass...... This guy is The New Generation Scott Hall, only with less than half the talent......
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Tell me why Jeff Hardy is a good choice for TNA World Champion again?

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"Because the fans like him! He wears all this bright paint and does all these hand signals that the fans really like!"
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I'm not even sure why I'm surprised, it's hardly anything 'new', maybe I've been online more than normal today so I've 'kept up' with the thread. But yeah, gaylords.
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I'm not even sure why I'm surprised, it's hardly anything 'new', maybe I've been online more than normal today so I've 'kept up' with the thread. But yeah, gaylords.
Dude, you're in a forum, where people give their opinions about anything. Those opinions are not always going to be in accordance with what YOU think.

GET OVER IT.

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Yes, people give their opinions. There is also this magic little 'Post reply' button that people can click on that allows an opinion to become somewhat of a discussion (surprising on a discussion forum, I know) and these discussions/responses seem to increase when there is a disagreement. Are you keeping up here?
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I dont buy that shit. I used to pull 18 hour guard shifts every day for weeks at a time, with little to no sleep, and never once did someone think I was wasted.

Shit, I didnt sleep until my 3rd night of bootcamp. I was awake 72 plus hours with alot more stress going on than jeff, and you know what? I was tired, not all fucked up.

Same can be said for every person I ever worked with. if you see someone is exhausted, you wouldnt mistake it with being drunk or on drugs.
And your 18 hour guard shifts included getting slammed around a ring every night and going through the bullshit stresses of traveling and doing media appearances for a million-dollar company?

You honestly back your reasoning that because you and your friends in the Navy worked long hours and never thought each other to look "fucked up" that it couldn't possibly be the situation with someone else in an entirely different working environment? I've got a couple of friends who suffer from legitimate insomnia, staying up for 4-5 days at a time, and I've sometimes thought they looked incredibly stoned, zonked out on pain pills, or that they'd been crying profusely, when they'd simply been awake for way too long.


The fact that TNA went ahead and let him retain the world title and are planning to use him for the rest of the year's Impact tapings I think should say a lot. The guy showed up to the event looking haggard as fuck and because of his reputation in the business, people immediately jumped to conclusions. I think the facts speak for themselves: the guy has been all over the fucking place for the past week, and as someone who travels a lot, I know that it can take the life out of you.

Now, I'm not stupid, and I'm reasonable enough to say that yes, maybe he was under the influence of SOMETHING when he arrived to the arena (in addition to being extremely tired), but the fact is that we don't know one way or the other. I think the comments about how Jeff always fucks up his chances, etc, etc, are true based on his past, but not necessarily relevant in this situation. Give the guy a fucking break; he's been pretty great since arriving in TNA.
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Yes, people give their opinions. There is also this magic little 'Post reply' button that people can click on that allows an opinion to become somewhat of a discussion (surprising on a discussion forum, I know) and these discussions/responses seem to increase when there is a disagreement. Are you keeping up here?
Honestly, no. I don't even know what you're so against.

OK, YOU'RE A HARDY FAN, WE GET IT!
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Honestly, no. I don't even know what you're so against.

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It's not that he's a Hardy fan (I don't know if he is, actually).

It's that the internet wrestling community (which includes the people who posted the news in the first place) are like fucking baboon savages when it comes to certain subjects, and it's ridiculous. Have you ever seen 2001, A Space Odyssey? At the beginning, there are a bunch of monkeys who get into a big fight over a bone. That's what this Jeff Hardy news has been like. A rumor gets dropped that Jeff showed up to the show looking "out of it," that the backstage fell into a chaotic scramble to figure out how to work around it, etc, etc, and immediately everyone jumps up to rally against Jeff Hardy like he's the fucking anti-christ.

It's just such a severe form of haterism and it's ridiculous.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:12 PM   #69
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It's not that he's a Hardy fan (I don't know if he is, actually).

It's that the internet wrestling community (which includes the people who posted the news in the first place) are like fucking baboon savages when it comes to certain subjects, and it's ridiculous. Have you ever seen 2001, A Space Odyssey? At the beginning, there are a bunch of monkeys who get into a big fight over a bone. That's what this Jeff Hardy news has been like. A rumor gets dropped that Jeff showed up to the show looking "out of it," that the backstage fell into a chaotic scramble to figure out how to work around it, etc, etc, and immediately everyone jumps up to rally against Jeff Hardy like he's the fucking anti-christ.

It's just such a severe form of haterism and it's ridiculous.

Well...he hasn't exactly maintained a "squeaky clean" image, so...he hasn't helped matters.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:22 PM   #70
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Honestly, no. I don't even know what you're so against.

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lol what, I'm not a 'Hardy fan', I'm a 'non-stupid post fan'. The fact you have no idea 'what I'm against' says enough and while it's probably a waste of time, I'll try and help you out.

90% of stuff written on 'the sheets'/internet is bollocks. One quite vague report was released on a website that Jeff was in 'no condition to perform' which circulated through a few more sites afterwards from the same foundation. A contradictory and rather detailed report surfaced not long afterwards stating something completely different. Jeff Hardy wrestled on the PPV showing no signs of the aforementioned 'no condition to perform'. This on top of the 'omg Jeff Hardy is a complete piece of shit' attitude that's surfaced since his drugs bust and amplified ten fold since he had the nerve to say something that wasn't complimentary about CM Punk. I couldn't care less about a difference of opinion, that's kind of the point of a discussion. As I said, my problem is with stupid people or stupid comments usually including getting some kind of shots in because they feel it validates that they know something or some shit. It's quite pathetic.

Like I said, it's nothing new.
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Well...he hasn't exactly maintained a "squeaky clean" image, so...he hasn't helped matters.
Yeah, because all wrestlers are upstanding citizens.
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It's not that he's a Hardy fan (I don't know if he is, actually).

It's that the internet wrestling community (which includes the people who posted the news in the first place) are like fucking baboon savages when it comes to certain subjects, and it's ridiculous. Have you ever seen 2001, A Space Odyssey? At the beginning, there are a bunch of monkeys who get into a big fight over a bone. That's what this Jeff Hardy news has been like. A rumor gets dropped that Jeff showed up to the show looking "out of it," that the backstage fell into a chaotic scramble to figure out how to work around it, etc, etc, and immediately everyone jumps up to rally against Jeff Hardy like he's the fucking anti-christ.

It's just such a severe form of haterism and it's ridiculous.
This is better than what I wrote.
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Yeah, because all wrestlers are upstanding citizens.
We're not talking about "wrestlers in general"...we're talking about...well, I am...about Hardy.
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We're not talking about "wrestlers in general"...we're talking about...well, I am...about Hardy.
So you're retarded and a hypocrite. Outstanding.
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So you're retarded and a hypocrite. Outstanding.
...yet you continue to read what I write.

"Outstanding".
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The level of stupidity is kind of hard to ignore.
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And it only affected Hardy?

Nothing suspicious about that...
Exactly. Yes, the stress on Hardy is heavier than on others, but he wasn't the only one on that tour who had long flights and long days. He is - however - the only one facing drug charges. True or not, I can see why this story has legs. Personally, I think he was stoned, just because I know enough addicts and they deal with stress and exhaustion the same way, getting high until they can get through it. But I wasn't there so I can't say with any certainty. I'll just have to wait and see what happens next like everyone else.
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You'd be in the minority by 'waiting and seeing what happens next'
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How the hell did Hardy survive WWE then?
Just for the record, it sounds like WWE at least plans their road trips A LOT better than TNA.
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I think Fox has said it best. People have seen me with only a few hours sleep and assume I have been drinking. My eyes and behaviour just seem to show fatigue more. That being said, it's entirely possible Jeff Hardy is on something. I mean, the man has a history of drugs, it's a hard habit to break, and I don't think TNA would really require it of him.

It's entirely possible that Jeff Hardy's reputation muddled up a completely innocent story -- but it's it's also possible that Jeff Hardy was riding some substance. We don't know, and we don't even know if Hardy did show up backstage in that state. None of us were there.

That being said, I agree that TNA should just fire Hardy anyway. I understand what TNA wants to try and achieve with him, but he hasn't boomed business for them so far, and is a liability waiting to happen.
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