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Old 08-08-2013, 05:39 PM   #41
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Come on. The guy has jobbed to anyone and everyone. Do you really think it's a huge deal anymore for a guy like CM Punk to beat him?
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Old 08-09-2013, 07:08 AM   #42
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In the minority here, cause I really do like Brock, but Punk really needs this in my opinion.

Against any of the major "stars" of WWE's most popular era, he has lost...to HHH, to The Rock and to Undertaker. A loss to Brock just does more to lessen his credibility as a top tier star.

Wins over people like Jericho are not worth anything anymore, and it really does leave his wins over Cena as his only massive wins in his career. Just don't think it looks good if they are interested in pushing him as Best in the World going forward...
This. Punk needs this more imo. A loss to Rock. Another Loss to Rock. A loss to Taker. A return and then win against...Jericho? Nah, he needs to beat Brock in an overcoming the odds type deal.

Brock could lose, show up the next night and destroy someone and he'll still be a monster that people are scared of.
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Old 08-09-2013, 07:32 AM   #43
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It's the truth though. He loses as much as he wins, and not just against top guys. Off the top of my head, he's lost to Fandango and Curtis Axel around the same time. You can't compare beating Jericho to someone like Taker, Lesnar, Rock, or HHH.
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Old 08-09-2013, 07:38 AM   #44
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I mean, his televised record this year is 18-18-1. I like Jericho and everything, but beating him is the new beating Flair. Once everybody's on the roster has done it, it doesn't really mean much.
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:07 AM   #45
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This. Punk needs this more imo. A loss to Rock. Another Loss to Rock. A loss to Taker. A return and then win against...Jericho? Nah, he needs to beat Brock in an overcoming the odds type deal.

Brock could lose, show up the next night and destroy someone and he'll still be a monster that people are scared of.
That pretty much what Ryback does though and his aura is gone because he loses so much.
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:17 AM   #46
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Come on. The guy has jobbed to anyone and everyone. Do you really think it's a huge deal anymore for a guy like CM Punk to beat him?
Well, seeing as Jericho is one of the more decorated and well-respected superstars in WWE history, how could it NOT be?
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:17 AM   #47
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That pretty much what Ryback does though and his aura is gone because he loses so much.
Ryback was still a new star trying to get over fully.

Brock Lesnar is Brock Lesnar. can't really compare the two in this situation.
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:18 AM   #48
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Well, seeing as Jericho is one of the more decorated and well-respected superstars in WWE history, how could it NOT be?
He's bulletproof, and thats good, but its at a point now where a win against him is an "well of course" type thing.
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:49 AM   #49
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Yeah I am more surprised when Jericho wins a match.
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Old 08-09-2013, 07:58 PM   #50
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JTG and Heath Slater have beat Chris Jericho clean, just to put things in perspective.
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Old 08-10-2013, 12:07 AM   #51
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I would like to go back in time and have Lesnar be unbeaten since his return and have him versus Taker at WM30
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:46 PM   #52
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Curtis Axel and a debuting Heyman Guy should help out Lesnar at SummerSlam. This allows Punk to face Curtis Axel at Night of Champions, with the rookie in Axel's corner. Maybe it could be someone like Corey Graves? They help Axel retain the title with help from Brock Lesnar and we move towards Hell in a Cell, where Punk gets payback against Lesnar.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:55 PM   #53
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:17 PM   #54
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Curtis Axel and a debuting Heyman Guy should help out Lesnar at SummerSlam. This allows Punk to face Curtis Axel at Night of Champions, with the rookie in Axel's corner. Maybe it could be someone like Corey Graves? They help Axel retain the title with help from Brock Lesnar and we move towards Hell in a Cell, where Punk gets payback against Lesnar.
Maybe RVD?
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Old 08-12-2013, 11:23 PM   #55
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RVD is only working for 90 days before an undisclosed break. That's why he hasn't been in many feuds and just having solid matches as of late. Same reason he's on the pre-show and not on the main SummerSlam card.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:26 AM   #56
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He could feud with punk for the remainder of his 90 days.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:37 AM   #57
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It'd be a waste. More than one face vs face feud wouldn't be ideal imo
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Well he would be turning heel if he sided with Heyman.
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I'd not be opposed to seeing RVD align with Heyman, just because I think RVD's character is at its best when he's technically a heel but still immensely over. A Punk vs. RVD feud would actually be insane and could tap into a lot of personal territory.

But I think it would work better if Heyman got a rookie from NXT to be his new guy. It'd be a great way of establishing someone on the main roster as someone to care about. How is Jake Carter these days? He seems like he would be a good fit for a Heyman Guy.
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