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Old 09-04-2013, 10:52 PM   #41
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That still didn't answer my question.
Because you are not good enough to understand what's good for business.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:03 AM   #42
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If this is meant to be a heel turn, it's your worst effort yet. Best delete these last few posts and pretend it never happened.
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:02 AM   #43
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RVD winning the World Title would balance out Orton holding the WWE Title.
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:06 PM   #44
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If this is meant to be a heel turn, it's your worst effort yet. Best delete these last few posts and pretend it never happened.
Deleting posts is done if it's good for business.
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Old 09-05-2013, 09:37 PM   #45
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Del Rio has talent but he's a "B+".

RVD is a legend that will bring eyes on the belt.
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:41 PM   #46
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He took TNA to the stratosphere after they put him over AJ Styles to win the title on IMPACT for no reason...oh wait...


RVD IS BAD FOR BUSINESS
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:23 PM   #47
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TNA sucking isn't his fault though, who watches TNA besides a select few fans and some channel surfing bored dude who happens to come across it and think "oh wrestling, cool".
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:47 PM   #48
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RVD HWC??

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Old 09-06-2013, 04:56 AM   #49
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He took TNA to the stratosphere after they put him over AJ Styles to win the title on IMPACT for no reason...oh wait...


RVD IS BAD FOR BUSINESS
If The Rock came to TNA and took the belt off of Bully Ray, it would not take TNA "to the stratosphere."

BEING TNA IS BAD FOR BUSINESS

RVD is not.
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:15 AM   #50
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RVD is what killed the ECW re-launch. It kinda sucks to re-launch an entire brand around a guy and then he gets arrested and suspended within a month.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:40 PM   #51
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Oh come one James, that's just bad trolling. Not even you can honestly believe that RVD is what killed the ECW re-launch.
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:20 AM   #52
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They re-launched the entire brand and then he and Sabotchu decided to be the worthless pieces of shit they are and get busted with drugs. As such, they had to drastically and hastily change plans for ECW which gave us Big Show vs Batista and Vince McMahon vs Bobby Lashley since none of the "new breed" guys were remotely close to being ready. It made them rush the change from "ECW 2.0" to "Pre-NXT NXT". Vince also probably decided to never let an over ECW original hold the belt again since they can't handle their fucking business. At least Dreamer got one run with it.
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:23 AM   #53
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I loved ECW. Everyone got pissed when it wasn't the same as the original ECW, but did anyone actually thing that was going to happen. They used the "brand" of ECW to help launch a 3rd brand to use as glorified developmental since they could work with veterans and get on TV without getting in the way of the 2 main brands.
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Loved Kurt Angle's ECW theme once it got past the poorly looped intro bit.
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RVD hasn't smoked since June

http://www.hipcast.com/podcast/HmnkrKgs

Either way, I'd love it if he wins the belt.
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Loved Kurt Angle's ECW theme once it got past the poorly looped intro bit.
I didn't mind the intro a bit. The drums especially during the intro were quite epic.
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There was a lot that went wrong in the original ECW. Yeah, RVD fucked up pretty early, but I'm sure the plan was for Big Show to be the ECW Champion soon anyway. Well, either him or Kurt Angle, but Angle left very soon after ECW began, dealing it a bit of a blow.

Then there was that whole "December to Dismember" debacle. The booking of the PPV should have been pretty simple -- Big Show goes first, since he was leaving the company. He puts over every single guy in the match by going first and implying that we are going to get a new ECW Champion, and they are not going to be Paul Heyman's "chosen guy." Hardcore Holly and Test then put over RVD and CM Punk. RVD beats Punk, because Punk was quite new and RVD was the babyface that was still being pushed as the "hope" for ECW. It comes down to Bobby Lashley vs. RVD, where Heyman screws RVD by helping out Lashley and revealing that Bobby was always his Supreme Superstar to head ECW into a new era.

The next few months would feature RVD trying to find a way to get another ECW Title shot. The Originals and the New Breed could continue to feud on a lower level and Punk would still find his way into the Money in the Bank Ladder Match and win. Lashley vs. RVD at WrestleMania 23 for the ECW Title, New Breed vs. Originals and Punk in MITB -- a perfect way to represent the new brand at their first WrestleMania.

Chris Benoit's whole thing didn't help the brand later in 2007, either. I was fairly certain the plan was for Benoit to beat Punk to become the new ECW Champion, and for him and Punk to have a series of incredible matches that would eventually put Punk over. Instead, we got John Morrison -- who as much as I loved him, was the first time it felt like the ECW Title wasn't at that World Title level -- and it never recovered.
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