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Old 09-12-2013, 05:43 PM   #41
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Ever notice its different if someone makes fun of their own family/wife as opposed to someone elses family?
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:43 PM   #42
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Also cant remember how many times a 10 minute segment where people pulled things out of Vince's ass happened? maybe you can remind me.
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:00 PM   #43
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Or how many times Vince McMahon has been fired in his home town.
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:07 PM   #44
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Or kicked in the dick Literally and Figuratively by multiple people on live TV.
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Having a heavy salary as a color commentator and being a part in segments of ridicule isn't so bad if you think about it. I'll take a 6 figure paycheck just to get kicked in the balls or fired from my hometown any day.
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Also cant remember how many times a 10 minute segment where people pulled things out of Vince's ass happened? maybe you can remind me.
Vince McMahon pissed himself in the ring, let himself get covered in shit in the ring, took a bedpan to the head, tossed Rikishi's salad, gotten kicked in the junk, etc, etc.

Why is JR the only guy who gets this "oh poor baby" treatment? Why isn't WWE decried for the humiliating things Michael Cole has been put through? What about the things that Bobby Heenan went through? There's a guy who was made to look like a complete ass on TV time and time again. How about Patterson and Brisco as Vince's stooges? I don't remember JR ever being tossed into a garbage truck a la Eric Bischoff... who incidentally also got face-raped by Mae Young at least once. Bobby Heenan and Jerry Lawler mercilessly verbally assaulted Bret Hart's parents for months on end. Mick Foley? How much of his career was made in WWE by being humiliated and looking pathetic? I could go on. But oh, that's right, having a disability inoculates you against that, right? Can't make fun of the handicapped... well unless you're Zack Gowan of course. Unless you're basically anybody else. Just not JR. Because he's special apparently. And none of this on-screen "humiliation" comes anywhere close to the kind of stuff that happened backstage for real in the territory days that so many people dry-hump on a consistent basis.

You take the good with the bad. You take the money, you play the part. JR could have walked a long time ago. But you know what, I have a feeling he sits back in his house knowing he's never going to want for anything and he's set for life, and it isn't due to his work for Jim Crockett or Bill Watts, it's his work for Vince McMahon. WWE consistently puts JR over as the greatest announcer in wrestling history. That is going to be his legacy. The only people who will see JR's legacy as one of humiliation and disrespect are the people who want a reason to hate Vince McMahon. You're on on-screen talent, you're a character. If you can't understand that and have to personalize everything, then you're a mark, plain and simple. And if Jim Ross didn't like what happened to his on-screen character, then he should have headed on home.
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Old 09-12-2013, 10:43 PM   #47
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Having a heavy salary as a color commentator and being a part in segments of ridicule isn't so bad if you think about it. I'll take a 6 figure paycheck just to get kicked in the balls or fired from my hometown any day.
I'd love for someone to, on the record, ask JR if he would trade his time in the business, good and bad, for anything on this planet. Is there anyone here who thinks he would say yes?
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A few differences. When the Boss degrades himself its not the same as him shitting on his workers.

For 20 years his medical conditions and appearance have been mocked on the reg.

Give me a break. This falls into the "No matter what the side is, Tedious will always side with anyone as long as its against the standard." Add this to your list of despicable people and acts you "defend".
I agree 100% with Tedious.
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I'd love for someone to, on the record, ask JR if he would trade his time in the business, good and bad, for anything on this planet. Is there anyone here who thinks he would say yes?
Fuck it, you think your life sucks and are jealous of JR. Because your life fell short he should just deal with abuse and shit. Cool. Thanks for coming.
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Having a heavy salary as a color commentator and being a part in segments of ridicule isn't so bad if you think about it. I'll take a 6 figure paycheck just to get kicked in the balls or fired from my hometown any day.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:09 AM   #53
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Fuck it, you think your life sucks and are jealous of JR. Because your life fell short he should just deal with abuse and shit. Cool. Thanks for coming.
No, I'm saying that the only person whose opinion actually matters in this whole subject is his. If he thinks that the good that he has reaped from the wrestling business has been worth the bad, then that's how it is. I'm glad to see your continuing level of consistency when it comes to just hurling insults and snide remarks instead of actually forming thoughts and stuff though.
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I pretty much agree with Tedious, insomuch as if it really weren't cool to be the ass end of jokes for 20 years, I'm sure JR would have had something to say about it long before now. Hell, something as serious as Lawler dropping dead from a heart attack is now open season on the announce table. I would assume if Jerry were raw about the subject matter, that would never happen on air as comfortably as it has in random banter, or nearly as often. Paul Bearer's ACTUAL DEATH was used to add drama to an Undertaker angle. Everytime they went to Oklahoma, they make it a point to a) bring out Ross for the hometown pop, and b) use his noteriety to try to get someone some heat for beating up on the homer. If he truly wasn't down for that, I'm sure we wouldn't have had nearly as many "JR appreciation nights" as we have seen in the last 10-15 years.

The only time I ever remember anyone making fun of JR was truly considered in completely poor taste by and large is when Ed Ferrara did it in WCW. In that case, its like the difference between you playfully calling your gay brother a "fucking homo", as opposed to some random stranger in the street doing the same thing. It doesn't equate.
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But yeah, for the record, I'd endure any of JR's supposed humiliations and disrespect for the chance to be at the center of the wrestling world for 20 years and have a literal ringside seat for and play an integral role in some of the greatest moments of its history. I'd be happy to play the on-screen role of a guy who gets shit on by a cruel boss if it afforded me the opportunity to have the unique and priceless experiences Jim Ross has had.
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Well you're wrong, and Jim Ross has commented on this before, so again, you're wrong.
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Well you're wrong, and Jim Ross has commented on this before, so again, you're wrong.
Clearly JR was only saying that to suck up to Vince McMahon so as to avoid having his children raped on TV for ratings.
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The only time I ever remember anyone making fun of JR was truly considered in completely poor taste by and large is when Ed Ferrara did it in WCW. In that case, its like the difference between you playfully calling your gay brother a "fucking homo", as opposed to some random stranger in the street doing the same thing. It doesn't equate.
Agreed. There's using something to further a wrestling angle and there's just being mean. Russo and Ferrara were just mean.
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