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Old 04-15-2014, 05:42 PM   #41
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Was kinda meh being forced to recreate old moments though, more awkward/frustrating than enjoyable at times especially with the hidden objectives. Given the mix of talent on the roster you'd think it'd be easier to create dream matches like the Wrestlemania game.
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Old 04-15-2014, 05:47 PM   #42
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Yup gender swapping through a magic wand isn't eye rolling.
Neither is Finlay and Santino becoming zombies.
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Old 04-15-2014, 05:49 PM   #43
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If Russo was booking that might have happened.
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Keep in mind real life story lines are only a little less stupid than the magic wand thing, nor do I even see your point; recreations are better because original story lines might be silly? Okay..?
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Was kinda meh being forced to recreate old moments though, more awkward/frustrating than enjoyable at times especially with the hidden objectives. Given the mix of talent on the roster you'd think it'd be easier to create dream matches like the Wrestlemania game.
LOL, what?! You're telling me you didn't enjoy playing each of the WM matches and doing the hidden objectives, not just to be historically accurate, but also so you could do a hidden objective and maybe get a short cutscene that makes you say "Oh, yeah! That part of the match was so cool! I'd completely forgotten about that till now!"

Seriously I've found the trip down Nostalgia Lane with Attitude Era mode in '13 & 30 Years of WrestleMania mode in 2K14 to be tremendously fun and by far the most enticing features of the last couple of games.
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:11 PM   #46
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I think Universe is supposed to take the place of career mode with all the alleged cut scenes and storylines, but the mode is so messed up it doesn't work out that way. I enjoyed Attitude Era and 30 Years of WrestleMania modes, but I do wish they could at least add in some kind of mode just to play through as a CAW and develop. With NXT and everything now, it'd be an easy storyline to make with a few branches that made you play through 4-5 times. If they could somehow import those rivalries and things into Universe mode when completed it'd be even better.
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I wonder what, if any, "theme" there would be. I mean they could always do Attitude Era Mode 2.0 picking up with Austin getting run over at Survivor Series or something but I kinda doubt they'd do that.

A proper WCW mode could be doable now that Sting would presumably be on board for the game. Basically every other WCW guy of importance has been in a recent game so I doubt they'd have issues bringing most of them back in.
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Sports games have this interesting thing where real life events were recreated and installed in the game as special ongoing challenges. A weekly show that doesn't have an off season could potentially upload entire cards for players to play out, change outcomes, etc.
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LOL, what?! You're telling me you didn't enjoy playing each of the WM matches and doing the hidden objectives, not just to be historically accurate, but also so you could do a hidden objective and maybe get a short cutscene that makes you say "Oh, yeah! That part of the match was so cool! I'd completely forgotten about that till now!"

Seriously I've found the trip down Nostalgia Lane with Attitude Era mode in '13 & 30 Years of WrestleMania mode in 2K14 to be tremendously fun and by far the most enticing features of the last couple of games.
Nope the novelty wore off quickly, I only played through it to unlock everything, having to drag a match on just to hit a specific button at a certain time isn't fun for me.
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Keep in mind real life story lines are only a little less stupid than the magic wand thing, nor do I even see your point; recreations are better because original story lines might be silly? Okay..?

My point is you said recreations are eye rolling compared to the original stories, gender swapping via magical wands and zombie possessions seem vastly more eye rolling to me.
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Sports games have this interesting thing where real life events were recreated and installed in the game as special ongoing challenges. A weekly show that doesn't have an off season could potentially upload entire cards for players to play out, change outcomes, etc.
WCW Mayhem had something like that. Somehow it programmed matches based on PPVs that didn't happen yet.
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I think Universe is supposed to take the place of career mode with all the alleged cut scenes and storylines, but the mode is so messed up it doesn't work out that way. I enjoyed Attitude Era and 30 Years of WrestleMania modes, but I do wish they could at least add in some kind of mode just to play through as a CAW and develop. With NXT and everything now, it'd be an easy storyline to make with a few branches that made you play through 4-5 times. If they could somehow import those rivalries and things into Universe mode when completed it'd be even better.
Yeah that's what I was thinking about, they have Universe mode, but my CAW never seemed to get any of the cutscenes in the year or so I played through before getting bored of it. I'd get a random month or two fued with a random guy every few months but it had no build or reason behind it. I guess everyone was too scared to attack the KISS Demon.

As for the other's I kind of enjoyed the Road to Wrestlemania mode in '12 (aside from the stupid backstage handicap matches), but it was really short and gave no reason to replay it. I never even had any interest in playing Attitude Mode in '13. I mean I had already seen all of those moments and enjoyed them, there was nothing I was going to be able to do to improve on them.

As for the legends I never have had any use for them, especially if they are really old or dead in real life, I just end up moving them to a show where they will never be used. I'd much rather use a bunch of recent scrubs than top guys from decades past, same as the other sports games. I have no desire to play as the '99 Broncos in the year 2014 no matter how much I love that team.
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Old 04-16-2014, 02:09 PM   #54
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i think they should just cut "story" mode, and put all it's time and development into improving Universe.
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They kinda mixed the 2 together all the way back in 2000 for No Mercy. They had multi-branching stories that either happened in real life or branched off into a different tale. And each belt had its own branches. That had replay value. You had to replay matches to get different outcomes to follow a different branch. I wouldn't mind replaying storylines where I know the next chapter if there's the option to go off script and follow a new chain of events.
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My point is you said recreations are eye rolling compared to the original stories, gender swapping via magical wands and zombie possessions seem vastly more eye rolling to me.
You bring up two examples when there were other examples, such as a draft storyline from SvR 06 or 07, that could have been on TV. The actual WWE writers were involved at the time. And there were more legit 'this could be TV' original angles than the extreme stuff you keep mentioning.

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WCW Mayhem had something like that. Somehow it programmed matches based on PPVs that didn't happen yet.
I suppose WCW booking was fairly obvious at the time.
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You bring up two examples when there were other examples, such as a draft storyline from SvR 06 or 07, that could have been on TV. The actual WWE writers were involved at the time. And there were more legit 'this could be TV' original angles than the extreme stuff you keep mentioning.
I've brought it up twice in response to you, I'm dying to know what real life WWE storylines are on par with the wand thing though, please enlighten me.
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Kane/Vickie
Murder of Paul Bearer (by CEMENT)
An entire episode featuring the Muppets (but was actually kinda awesome but still)
Kane using his powers to light a technician on fire
Kane using his powers to light a trash can on fire
Kane using powers
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Anything with Hornswaggle
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At the risk of looking like I'm ripping off DTTS's gimmick:

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Murder of Paul Bearer (by CEMENT)They never claimed he was killed.
An entire episode featuring the Muppets (but was actually kinda awesome but still) It was entertaining which is all that matters.
Kane using his powers to light a technician on fire He lit JR on fire and it made sense since he was this deranged angry monster. He didn't use magic either - just gasoline and matches.
Kane using his powers to light a trash can on fire No different than the "mind games" Undertaker plays.
Kane using powers He hasn't used magic powers in months.
God has competed in a tag match in the WWE That was clearly satire/intentionally facetious on Vince McMahon's part mocking HBK's religious beliefs as part of the whole "McMahonism" storyline.
Anything with Hornswaggle I concede this point.
A few of the Boogieman's scares I can't believe you got scared by The Boogeyman.
The Hurricane's secret identity as a WWE reporter, played fascinatingly straight If you didn't read the internet, you wouldn't have known.
"Santina" I concede this point.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:32 PM   #62
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I know, but none of that really squashes my point. Some people were entertained by the original stuff no matter how zany, so saying something gets a pass because it worked can be applied to whatever whackiness was in the SvR story modes. It's cool.

Just saying, original angles are still better than re-lived stuff. I mean, you could potentially relive any match/card/PPV anyway, while some dev-side support would be required to enjoy fully fledged story lines for... say... your CAW. Surely we can agree with that.

And yeah, Kane did totally use magic to set a technician on fire. Not ambiguous spooky mind games - it was D&D shit. Probably on YouTube. Hell, I loved it.
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This is fine but not in a videogame where they should be allowed to get fantastical. It's a strange argument, honestly.
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I've always wondered how they managed to do that, especially the one from the finger.
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This is fine but not in a videogame where they should be allowed to get fantastical. It's a strange argument, honestly.
That was cooler than setting JR on fire. JR laying motionless yet screaming in complete agony was an odd scene.
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JR, why the fuck would you let Kane have a jug of GASOLINE on the coffee table during your interview?
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Maybe his car was low on gas.
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Kane/Vickie
Murder of Paul Bearer (by CEMENT)
An entire episode featuring the Muppets (but was actually kinda awesome but still)
Kane using his powers to light a technician on fire
Kane using his powers to light a trash can on fire
Kane using powers
God has competed in a tag match in the WWE
Anything with Hornswaggle
A few of the Boogieman's scares
The Hurricane's secret identity as a WWE reporter, played fascinatingly straight
"Santina"

The only one even close is the Hornswoggles DX run stuff the rest are just clutching at straws and a lot of Kane.
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Old 04-17-2014, 05:59 AM   #75
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Kane used a lot of magic.

If some of that stuff were original storylines made for the game you would have cited those just as well.
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Kane uses a lot of pyro, it's kinda his thing. And like I said, only one of those things is even close so I seriously doubt I would, I wouldn't have even cited the two I did if you hadn't come across as a pretentious cunt the post before though.
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You know pyro is not what I'm pointing out. The video above is very clear. It's presented as magic. They could easily do the examples you stated on TV and they would be perfectly in line with their whackier angles/scenes. That is my point; they been doing goofy shit.
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They are not presented as magic. They are presented as supernatural powers given unto him from The Great Evil Of This World, Mr. Lucifer Satan Devil
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Magic.

Though I think zombies would be an interesting match. You get pinned you're infected and must work for the other team.
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