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Old 05-26-2004, 10:03 PM   #41
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Old 05-26-2004, 10:34 PM   #42
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Well, Orton has held it longer than some of the most noteworthy champions in history. Orton so far has held it 164 days by my calculations, beating off the likes of Ricky Steamboat (65 days), Rick Rude (128), Kevin Nash (118), Steve Austin (less than 92, combined), Billy Gunn (19) and Shane Douglas (15... minutes).

Not that I'm saying he's the best champion ever, but if they leave it on him for a few more months...
Yes but honestly how much has he actually defended the damn thing.
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Old 05-27-2004, 01:27 PM   #43
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Now that you mention it... still, we live and hope.
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Old 05-27-2004, 08:11 PM   #44
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Now that you mention it... still, we live and hope.
I suppose I'm not all that much of a fan of his, I mean he's better than a lot of guys but still, he's kinda meh to me
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Old 05-27-2004, 08:23 PM   #45
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Well, Orton has held it longer than some of the most noteworthy champions in history. Orton so far has held it 164 days by my calculations, beating off the likes of Ricky Steamboat (65 days), Rick Rude (128), Kevin Nash (118), Steve Austin (less than 92, combined), Billy Gunn (19) and Shane Douglas (15... minutes).

Not that I'm saying he's the best champion ever, but if they leave it on him for a few more months...
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Don "Magnificent" Muraco.....06/20/1981............Philadelphia PA / One Fall
Pedro Morales 2..................11/23/1981............New York NY / One Fall
Don "Magnificent" Muraco.....01/22/1983............New York NY / One Fall
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Old 05-27-2004, 08:53 PM   #46
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I mean really, he's defended it just about as much as any other champion. He's defended against RVD in a really good match, he's defended against Booker, Booker and RVD in a 3 way, Edge, Venis on a few occasions, and Foley, probably a few more that I'm forgetting also. Also the fact that he pretty much is a main eventer with the strap. He is usually always in high profile matches, and the belt being on him is doing alot for both himself and the title. I think Orton has had a really good run. He is definately the best IC champ since at least The Rock, which should count for something.
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Old 05-27-2004, 08:54 PM   #47
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I mean really, he's defended it just about as much as any other champion. He's defended against RVD in a really good match, he's defended against Booker, Booker and RVD in a 3 way, Edge, Venis on a few occasions, and Foley, probably a few more that I'm forgetting also. Also the fact that he pretty much is a main eventer with the strap. He is usually always in high profile matches, and the belt being on him is doing alot for both himself and the title. I think Orton has had a really good run. He is definately the best IC champ since at least The Rock, which should count for something.
Benoit/Jericho/Angle.
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Old 05-27-2004, 09:02 PM   #48
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Benoit/Jericho/Angle.
I'm not really talking about as far as ability, I'm talking more about overall booking of the character. Orton has been booked very strong, and just has seemed more dominant. Angle was booked like a pussy, Benoit hit the glass ceiling it seemed, and Y2J wasn't as dominant as Orton either imo.
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Old 05-27-2004, 09:13 PM   #49
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I'm not really talking about as far as ability, I'm talking more about overall booking of the character. Orton has been booked very strong, and just has seemed more dominant. Angle was booked like a pussy, Benoit hit the glass ceiling it seemed, and Y2J wasn't as dominant as Orton either imo.
You mentioned Orton putting on good matches as your support. Benout and Jericho had a series of great matches with the title going back and forth makeing it looks strong and competitive. Ladder matches, submission matches, regular matches, it was a huge rivalry one of the better IC title, nay the best I've seen in a while and Angle was in there too.
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Old 05-27-2004, 09:13 PM   #50
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Old 05-30-2004, 03:39 PM   #51
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Hmm tough question. In no order

Rick Rude, HBK, bret Hart, HTM, Mr. Perfect

Those come to mind very quickly.
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Old 05-30-2004, 04:36 PM   #52
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Old 06-01-2004, 08:46 AM   #53
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I'd say a good IC champ is a champ who u associate with the belt:

Jeff Jarrett
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