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Old 02-08-2016, 02:11 PM   #41
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Dave Meltzer reported that Daniel tried to give notice.

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Old 02-08-2016, 02:12 PM   #42
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He created the IMPACT Testing method. So, go check that out at your leisure.
Don't be a Cynick; this is your side of the argument, present the evidence to back up your claims
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:13 PM   #43
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:18 PM   #45
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Don't be a Cynick; this is your side of the argument, present the evidence to back up your claims
I have no evidence besides Daniel Bryan retiring, and the rumor that Vince is blocking clearing him to train to return to the ring.

IMPACT model is what they use to evaluate talent with concussions same as in the NFL. It was developed by Maroon himself.
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I hope it's not true but obviously is.
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Tiny, tiny bit of hope in me that this is a work leading up to Wrestlemania.

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The rumours according to Meltzer (sorry drave) are that this is Bryan's doing, not WWE's. If what he's saying is true, Bryan went for further independent testing using some kind of new technique for checking concussion damage to get some ammo for being cleared. The fact he's now suddenly announcing his retirement after getting the results suggests that what the new test ended up finding wasn't good.

So WWE may actually have been in the right all along for not clearing him.
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Also been reading that the "Bryan asked for his release" story was traced back to a Dave Meltzer account on a message board and was never posted to his site. So bang goes that rumor most likely.
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Also been reading that the "Bryan asked for his release" story was traced back to a Dave Meltzer account on a message board and was never posted to his site. So bang goes that rumor most likely.
It was never posted to the site because it was a rephrased version of something Meltzer said on an audio show for the site, rather than a news post. He did state that Bryan asked for his release.
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Do you have a detailed report of what the WWE's doctors' grounds for clearing him are?
No one does, unfortunately.

In addition, I think there should be some appellate process for WWE talent. If talent can get say 3 or more doctors chosen by the talent who are specialists in whatever injury/field to clear them, or two specialist doctors to clear them, one chosen by the talent and an independent doctor chosen by WWE, then that should override the necessity for WWE's doctor to clear them.

The problem is, I'd imagine there's no established appeals process for this scenario written into the WWE's talent contract. I'd be shocked if this wasn't addressed by talent in future contracts though. If I was representing talent, I'd make it a major sticking point in the future by bringing up Bryan's situation to my client.

Obviously, it's still the talent's decision and with no major competition, WWE has ALL the bargaining power currently. You'd need a big draw like Cena wanting to make it standard in WWE talent contracts to make it happen in the near future.
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:20 PM   #64
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If his doctors are telling him he needs to retire then he should. Great career and he accomplished way more somebody of his size probably should have. In his book William Regal said that his wrestling career was over once he signed with WWE and everything else was extra.

Even making it to WWE from where he started as a fired WWE developmental from Shawn Michael's wrestling school, from the Indys, ROH's marque champion for over a year is simply amazing. He proved he wasn't just a vanilla midget (fuck off Gertner.) He was more than a B+. He was Daniel Bryan.
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I doubt they will ever allow for a non-WWE doctor to medically clear an in-ring competitor. I am not a lawyer nor do I claim to be, but running a normal-than-higher risk of an in-ring death from action isn't something I see them taking a risk on ever.

Just seems if they deem it serious enough to disallow someone to get in the ring, there is most likely a good reason for it.
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Grasping at straws here, if Bryan was cleared by HIS doctors, but not WWE's, and so stayed true to his word and is retiring so that he can continue wrestling elsewhere, I couldn't imagine WWE giving him an opportunity of a "send-off"... more of a future endeavor news post.

So with that small glimmer of hope, maybe it will be a Mark Henry-style swerve.

But probably not.
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Couldn't decide which of these vids to post, so went with both....
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But I suppose him cutting his hair and shaving is coz he won't need it anymore.
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:33 PM   #70
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That "Monster" video imo is the best promo video ever.
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My issue isn't as much with WWE having the authority to not allow their talent to get in the ring, as much as it is that there's no appellate process AND no recourse or remedy for the talent if they disagree. They essentially are stuck for the remainder of their deal even if they want to perform AND get clearance from outside doctors/specialists to do so.

It's an overly broad contract that allows WWE to avoid their obligation to perform in good faith, in a scenario like Bryan's. WWE has no obligation to make good faith efforts to clear Bryan medically but Bryan still has a good faith obligation to WWE by NOT performing for another party. Bryan is the only one meeting his implied obligation to perform in good faith in this scenario it seems to me.
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Grasping at straws here, if Bryan was cleared by HIS doctors, but not WWE's, and so stayed true to his word and is retiring so that he can continue wrestling elsewhere, I couldn't imagine WWE giving him an opportunity of a "send-off"... more of a future endeavor news post.

So with that small glimmer of hope, maybe it will be a Mark Henry-style swerve.

But probably not.
Meltzer mentioned the timing of this to be around Bryan receiving results of some tests he had independently of WWE just before the Rumble, so maybe they showed him something that made him feel he has to give up.
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Well since this now sadly sounds like he really is hanging 'em up for good...will he be going into the Hall of Fame? If they put him in this year it might come across as a reactionary PR move but in a year or two? Why not?

Won titles at 3 WrestleManias (including the WM30 main event of course), but beyond all of that they've already acknowledged the work he's done outside of WWE and they seem more open to inducting people who didn't have lengthy careers in WWE itself. Add in that he managed to get the words "YES!" and "NO!" over to a ridiculous degree and helped pave the way for many of the wrestlers signed to NXT now I'd think he definitely merits inclusion.
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Hmm... interesting. Wasn't aware of this.
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:37 PM   #75
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Or perhaps they cleared him as well? And that helped persuade WWE that he's ready.
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That "Monster" video imo is the best promo video ever.
It's up there. It's kind of got the unfortunate air of a tribute video about it in places though.
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After watching the Monster video, it seems to me that the DB storyline was the last very well-written story line that kept the majority of people tuning in to see what happened next.

The dude was actually fired and came back and defined greatness, in and out of the ring. Dude is amazing.
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Even HHH - at the beginning of the promo said "Listen, some people just don't get there"..... but then he and Steph took it to the point where it took the "reality" out of it. (Yea, remember when HHH said this was the Reality Era? lulz).

If they want to really engage the people, make it seem more real both in and out of the ring.
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