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Old 03-04-2016, 02:41 PM   #41
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Kinda both, I don't see the interest holding out long enough to make it worth booking him in anything significant.
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:29 PM   #42
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:59 PM   #43
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Ambrose gets cheers, but is he really that over, guys? Listen to his reactions on RAW this week compared to, say, one of Daniel Bryan's pops.
If you create a bar high enough, eventually nobody can jump over it.

Comparing pops to Bryan in Seattle is well...very you. Actually is very #1-wwf-fan
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Old 03-04-2016, 05:52 PM   #44
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Bryan's pops weren't entirely about Bryan either. People liked him and they got behind him but I'd say 30 - 40% of his pops had more to do with the audience at large reaching a "we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore" point. Switch up time and place and Ziggler could have gotten something similar. Not saying Ziggler could have reached the same height, but a lot of what fed the reactions to Bryan had to do with real-life heat with the people running the show.

Also, the pops were that high when the Shield feuded with the Wyatts and Evolution. Get Ambrose on his own in a situation like that and the roof gets blown off. Watch his upcoming match against HHH, then we'll discuss what kind of pops he can garner.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:05 PM   #45
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So one bad crowd and he isn't over anymore?
Lol, that's not what I said.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:08 PM   #46
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If you create a bar high enough, eventually nobody can jump over it.

Comparing pops to Bryan in Seattle is well...very you. Actually is very #1-wwf-fan
I wasn't comparing his pops to Bryan's in Seattle, moron. The question is not about where you set the bar if you go back and re-read the original post. You're not cute anymore.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:12 PM   #47
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Bryan's pops weren't entirely about Bryan either. People liked him and they got behind him but I'd say 30 - 40% of his pops had more to do with the audience at large reaching a "we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore" point. Switch up time and place and Ziggler could have gotten something similar. Not saying Ziggler could have reached the same height, but a lot of what fed the reactions to Bryan had to do with real-life heat with the people running the show.

Also, the pops were that high when the Shield feuded with the Wyatts and Evolution. Get Ambrose on his own in a situation like that and the roof gets blown off. Watch his upcoming match against HHH, then we'll discuss what kind of pops he can garner.
I believe he's more over than Reigns and I am all for putting the belt on Ambrose at Roadblock. I just don't think he's "fully over." It's not a criticism of the guy -- it's amazing how over he is despite the WWE trying really hard to smash him into the mid-card.

Ambrose is one of those guys that seems to click the more important the stuff they give him is. Put him in the mid-card and he sort of cools off tremendously, but in a title program? The place can go pretty nuts. I've heard him get great reactions and I think he is the closest to actually getting over right now. But is he generally completely definitely white-hot mega-face over? No. He's generally pretty over and people like him and want to see him win matches. He's in a fine spot.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:12 PM   #48
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If you create a bar high enough, eventually nobody can jump over it.

Comparing pops to Bryan in Seattle is well...very you. Actually is very #1-wwf-fan
Wait....
According to you isn't it up to Ambrose to connect with the fans and since he can't seem to get over it's his fault and not the company's? By your own standards Ambrose does not have it and should not be anywhere near close to the bar/ceiling/main event and Lesanr is as main event as you are ever going to get
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Ambrose showcases the difference between being over and being hot. The crowd is behind him but they aren't being given anything to go nuts over. He's hovering right now in this odd place where the crowd doesn't know if he's going to be Austin or Foley. As soon as he'said given his moments the pops will come.
I agree with this assessment.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:14 PM   #50
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Wait....
According to you isn't it up to Ambrose to connect with the fans and since he can't seem to get over it's his fault and not the company's? By your own standards Ambrose does not have it and should not be anywhere near close to the bar/ceiling/main event and Lesanr is as main event as you are ever going to get
I think CyNick's point is that if you expect a good product, you've got the bar too high.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:16 PM   #51
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