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Old 06-10-2004, 09:32 PM   #41
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I'm surprised such a personality as Stern wouldn't have his facts straight. These are basic facts too, like who's who between Eddie Guerrero adn Bradshaw. I'm usually a big fan of his but I don't like how he occasionally berates wrestling even though his show could be seen as more "mindless" than sports entertainment, and that he can't even get the story down. I think I remember one time he was reading a commercial for a PPV and mentioned the UNDERTAKER getting the title shot, and he said something like "It's about time to give the younger guys a chance". ?????

As for JBL, it was absolutely dumb of him to do that. I can see what he's saying in defense but the fact that he didn't expect it to backfire shows how truly stupid he is. If he's not getting fired, which he should, WWE should play up his firing from CNBC in a storyline to make him a "riches to rags" JBL. But I'd rather they just get rid of him.
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Old 06-10-2004, 11:24 PM   #42
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Old 06-11-2004, 12:44 AM   #43
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I'm surprised such a personality as Stern wouldn't have his facts straight. These are basic facts too, like who's who between Eddie Guerrero adn Bradshaw. I'm usually a big fan of his but I don't like how he occasionally berates wrestling even though his show could be seen as more "mindless" than sports entertainment, and that he can't even get the story down. I think I remember one time he was reading a commercial for a PPV and mentioned the UNDERTAKER getting the title shot, and he said something like "It's about time to give the younger guys a chance". ?????
Stern isn't a NEws personality though.

He can afford to get things wrong, because he's primarily shock entertainment. He could give the weather report as "It's raining sulfur and brimstone," When it was sunny and 70, and very few people would give a fuck.
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Old 06-11-2004, 01:26 PM   #44
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"I've done [the Nazi gestures] for decades."
Closet Nazi?

Ah well, done it for years, I guess it's OK then. CNBC should give him his job back, he does it all the time, it's totally unfair to sack him for something that he's done for so long.
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Old 06-11-2004, 03:09 PM   #45
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I can't believe how the WWE are defending him for his actions and now it seems that the JBL vs Eddie feud is going to go on for even longer. And his excuse about how he has been doing it for ages is pathetic. Oh well we better let him off the hook because he's been doing it for years, we're just making a scapegoat of him. Shut the F**K up Bradshaw you untalented, undeserving of a main event run piece of S***!
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Old 06-11-2004, 03:25 PM   #46
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Old 06-11-2004, 03:40 PM   #47
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Holocaust ina Cell match?

(Note: I'm not making light of the Holocaust, but more the way the WWE runs with bad ideas...)
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Old 06-11-2004, 10:55 PM   #48
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After hearing some of Bradshaw's comment's on the main page about the whole incident, I've gotta say it doesn't sounds AS bad anymore.
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Old 06-12-2004, 12:35 AM   #49
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CNBC Wrestles With a Bad-Boy Image
By Lisa de Moraes
Thursday, June 10, 2004; Page C07




Three weeks after announcing it had hired WWE wrestling bad boy John "Bradshaw" Layfield as a financial analyst for the network, CNBC said yesterday it was shocked to learn that JBL was in fact a WWE bad boy and it sacked him for doing the Nazi goose step and stiff-armed salute during a World Wrestling Entertainment match in Munich.

That, Layfield told The TV Column, is something he'd done before when performing in Germany both for WWE and for a German wrestling outfit, and is among the "reprehensible" things the character he plays has done.

"We find his behavior to be offensive, inappropriate and not befitting anyone associated with our network," the NBC cable financial network said in a statement about Layfield, who wrote the book "Have More Money Now: A Commonsense Approach to Financial Management."

"They hung me out to dry," Layfield told The TV Column.

"I was playing a character. It's the same as Vin Diesel playing a Nazi."

Layfield insists he's not an anti-Semite and says he made the gestures to incite the German audience to root for his opponent, Eddie Guerrero, during the Munich match.

"I'm a bad guy [on WWE]. I'm supposed to incite the crowd. I've done [the Nazi gestures] for decades. I really didn't think anything of it -- I know how bad it is, I've lived [in Germany]. I've been to Dachau, seen those places where they exterminated millions of Jews."

But, Layfield continued, "I draw the line between me and my character. That's like saying Anthony Hopkins really enjoys cannibalism."

Layfield said he had discussed his WWE character with CNBC before taking the contract and even had language put into the contract saying the network understood the nature of the role he played for WWE.

"The only thing they asked me not to play was a stock market cheat or fraud. Other than that, they said they totally understood, that it was like [California Gov.] Arnold Schwarzenegger playing a cyborg. . . .

"I thought I had it covered. I thought they understood the character is a bad guy and is going to do bad things," he said. "[JBL] has done some reprehensible things recently.

"I'm the worst bad guy they have on ['WWE Smackdown!']," he added.

Though a WWE spokesman acknowledged that JBL had done the goose step and Nazi salute before, the organization also put out a statement saying that Layfield had been reprimanded for last weekend's gesture.

"What he did in the ring was not probably the best thing to have done," the WWE rep told The TV Column. "We all understood why he did it and know that his intentions were good ones in terms of trying to make it the best experience for the fans and his fellow professional Eddie Guerrero -- to get the fans even more with [Guerrero], which is what John was supposed to do as the bad guy."

A CNBC spokeswoman said the network first received word of the incident via e-mails. She did not elaborate and referred to the CNBC statement in response to additional questions.

It would seem that CNBC was okay with the fact that Layfield's character recently was seen on UPN telecasts of "Smackdown!" as a Hispanic-taunting anti-immigration fanatic.

Layfield says his character has turned into "JR Ewing meets Pat Buchanan":

"Most of my promos are straight out of Pat Buchanan's run for election. That's where I got it from -- preaching against immigration, the fact that they're teaching in Spanish in public schools, and I say 'Spanish' with a despicable look, like I want to throw up. I got all of this from Pat Buchanan."

CNBC apparently also was fine with the fact that in a column on the WWE Web site, JBL wrote of his detractors: "How long has it been since you guys that spend all your time reporting on us have been with a woman other than your mother? After all, when I see you in airports hanging out, you are always with guys. You guys don't have a questionable sexual orientation do you?"

Layfield penned that bit on May 11, just six days after CNBC announced proudly that it had signed the wrestler and author, who'd been a guest on that network and others, including Fox News Channel, as a contributor on several shows.

"John brings a fresh perspective to the stock market, politics and finance," CNBC said in its announcement. "We are excited that he is part of our team and look forward to his engaging, entertaining insights."



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Old 06-12-2004, 12:38 AM   #50
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To me, that sounds too much like he's trying to shirk responsibility. For someone who's nauseated by his own character role, he should be more sympathetic to this crossing the line, not sitting there going "Well, I've done it before..."
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Old 06-12-2004, 10:25 AM   #51
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To me, that sounds too much like he's trying to shirk responsibility. For someone who's nauseated by his own character role, he should be more sympathetic to this crossing the line, not sitting there going "Well, I've done it before..."
Agreed.

See my earlier posts about refusal to accept responsibility, and not thinking that he's done anything wrong, despite enough emails to get him fired.....

Prick that he is!
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Old 06-12-2004, 10:53 AM   #52
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"I'm the worst bad guy they have on ['WWE Smackdown!']," he added.
He finally admits it.
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:32 PM   #53
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Agreed.

See my earlier posts about refusal to accept responsibility, and not thinking that he's done anything wrong, despite enough emails to get him fired.....

Prick that he is!
Agreed.

I was mostly responding the the above "Doesn't seem so bad" commment.
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