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Old 07-31-2004, 04:10 PM   #41
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heard he ended up tearing his knee up in the first round, gotta give the guy props for fighting with that, when I tore my knee I could hardly move.
Trust me, he tore nothing. There was nothing wrong with knee and his movement was fine until he hit the floor. He got up after it and walked away. 10 minutes later there are all these excuses about knees. The dodgy referee couldn't save Tyson. Three Kentucky judges never got the chance to save him and his corner couldn't save him. The best man won and that is that.


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Tyson or Williams?
The fact you even have to ask says how much bullshit that excuse is.
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Old 07-31-2004, 05:46 PM   #42
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The fact that I didn't care enough to watch it explains it.
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Old 07-31-2004, 11:40 PM   #43
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Hah I saw on Sportscenter Tyson sitting his ass in a corner. I knew the other guy was going to lay it to him.
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Old 08-01-2004, 10:16 AM   #44
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haha, Tyson still owes 40 mil in debts and he got his shit kicked in by a mediocre boxer.
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Old 08-01-2004, 12:07 PM   #46
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He tore his knee. 1st round.
 
Old 08-01-2004, 12:10 PM   #47
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Funny how they haven't said the extent of the tear (if there even is one). He fought 4 rounds and walked out of the ring so it couldn't be that bad. It's all excuses.
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I doubt he would have won anyway. Anyone that says Williams is a nobody, is simply not following the sport.

Tyson losing is music to my ears.
 
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I doubt he would have won anyway. Anyone that says Williams is a nobody, is simply not following the sport.

Tyson losing is music to my ears.
Danny Williams has lost 3 fights. Julius Francis was debatable and he got that win back. Samil Sam beat him clean because he didn't get up for the fight. Michael Sprott beating him was a complete joke. He fought a boring fight but he won every round clearly and the ref screwed him. Hardly a record of a journeyman which is what he is being tagged as in the media reports.
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"Boxing" just isnt intresting to a large population of the people, Tyson brought fans because he is exciting (well back in the day atleast) to watch to almost everyone. Nobody is going to want to see guys box "good matches" unless you are a boxing purist.
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Old 08-01-2004, 02:38 PM   #52
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Also, Tyson is small. If he's going to keep on fighting, they have to stop putting him up against these +260lbs guys that also have 4,5-6 inches on him.

He's what? 215lbs and maybe 6 feet tall?
 
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I doubt he is going to keep on fighting, his schudle 5 fights or whatever he had to get out of debt got pulled because he got knocked.

I wish I saw the fight now because people have been telling me he was winning round 1 and maybe even round 2, but then he still ended up getting knocked. I think him tearing his knee could have really happened, and it's not just an excuse.
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LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- Mike Tyson tore a ligament in his left knee in the first round of his knockout loss Friday to Danny Williams, his manager said Saturday.

Manager Shelly Finkel said that an MRI showed a complex tear of the lateral meniscus and that Tyson couldn't walk on the leg Saturday. He said Tyson's ex-wife Monica, who is a doctor, read the results.

''That's why he couldn't throw the right hand the rest of the fight,'' Finkel said. ''I was screaming at him to throw it, but he couldn't.''

Tyson dominated the first round, rocking Williams with shots to the head, but late in the round he motioned toward his knee and grimaced. Finkel said Tyson refused to make an excuse and wanted to continue fighting.

Williams knocked Tyson out with a series of punches in the fourth round. It appeared Tyson could get up and continue, but he made little attempt to do so.

''In retrospect, I wish he had said something and said he couldn't continue,'' Finkel said.

After the fight, Tyson's trainer, Freddie Roach, credited Williams with fighting a good fight but said Tyson was hampered by the injury.

''It's kind of hard to pivot and throw some shots without your left knee,'' Roach said. ''But Danny Williams surprised a lot of us.''

Finkel said that Tyson was downcast after the fight and that it would take some time to decide when -- or whether -- to resume his career. The fight with Williams was to be the first in a series of comeback fights to help Tyson pay off $38 million in debt. Tyson earned about $8 million Friday, but he would keep only $2 million of that if a bankruptcy reorganization plan is approved. That plan, however, was contingent on Tyson fighting seven times in the next three years, which appears unlikely.


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Old 08-01-2004, 02:58 PM   #55
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Trust me, he tore nothing. There was nothing wrong with knee and his movement was fine until he hit the floor.
Wow Rob. Your ability to be so objective is uncanny!

You should stick to wrestling where you actually have some clue as to what you're talking about. Don't forget to masturbate to your Lennox Lewis and Dave Meltzer posters while you're at it.

Moron.
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He tore his knee? I bet Williams will scream rematch if he uses that as an excuse.
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He tore his knee? I bet Williams will scream rematch if he uses that as an excuse.
Yeah, hopefully.

I just want to see Tyson pummel the shit out of Williams. We'll see what Rob "objectivity" Harvey would have to say about that.
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LMAO At Heyman saying Tyson pre 91 was in the top 3 greatest ever.

Not even in the Heavyweight Division, never mind any other weights.

Check out Jones, Barrera, Azzumah Nelson, Hamed, Robinson, Eubank, to name but a few that would totally outshine Tyson on any given day.
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LMAO at you all doubting Danny Williams, The man came into the fight as a huge underdog, yet he didn't just win. He didn't just pull through the fight. He destroyed Tyson in the 4th round, he was to big, to fast, to strong, and to good.

Bring on the other old Guy Evander Holyfield so Williams can make some money, then bring on Klitschko (both of them), then Roy Jones, then the rest.

All will fall at the feet of the future world heavyweight champ.

PS: I won 80 quid off the bookies betting williams to take it inside the distance.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:55 PM   #61
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LMAO At Heyman saying Tyson pre 91 was in the top 3 greatest ever.

Not even in the Heavyweight Division, never mind any other weights.

Check out Jones, Barrera, Azzumah Nelson, Hamed, Robinson, Eubank, to name but a few that would totally outshine Tyson on any given day.
Sadly Tyson back then probally would of wrecked the majority of those who you named...
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Yeah, hopefully.

I just want to see Tyson pummel the shit out of Williams. We'll see what Rob "objectivity" Harvey would have to say about that.
You had the chance to see it on Friday but it didn't quite go to plan for one of top 3 greatest ever did it? Tyson is past it. Career is dead. Take your cock out of his arse and forget about him.

And thanks for saying I know something about wrestling. I can die happy knowing I know at least one more thing than you do since you know jack shit about anything.
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Sadly Tyson back then probally would of wrecked the majority of those who you named...
Even if that was true it would only be because of a weight advantage, as most of the guys I mentioned are featherweights/Super Bantamweights, but for pure boxing ability completely outshine Tyson, even in his prime.
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Pound for Pound, Tyson would struggle to make the top 50 of all time.
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Let's make it simple and easy -

To all you Tyson suck ups (Especially Heyman), ok Tyson has knee damage (still not disclosed how serious though) but when Danny Williams fought Mark Potter a couple of years back, he dislocated his right arm (his good arm) during the fight and it was hanging limp with the shoulder bone popped out for all to see... AND HE KNOCKED HIM OUT WITH HIS LEFT ARM!!! So what if Tyson hurt his little knee, it's a contact sport and when you fight someone with one arm and win by knock out, you demand respect.
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You had the chance to see it on Friday but it didn't quite go to plan for one of top 3 greatest ever did it? Tyson is past it. Career is dead. Take your cock out of his arse and forget about him.
Wrong cock boy. I tried to watch the fight on Friday, but I missed it. As much as I love Tyson, I love it more when I'm getting my wee wee sucked by a Taiwanese-American girl (which is what happened on Friday).

As far as Tyson goes, I already admitted that he is past his prime. I even told jindrak earlier (who thinks Tyson can still win the title), that I don't think his capable of winning anymore.

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You DO know something about wrestling. You know the penis length of Dave Meltzer, and you know some pointless crap about certain Japanese wrestlers (to make it look like you have a "comprehensive knowledge" on wrestling). Hell - I can look shit up on google and pretend to know what I'm talking about as well. You're quite possibly the most overrated poster in the history of the boards.....and deep down, you know it.


Bottom line? - Tyson, in his prime, would've mopped the floor with your sexual idol Lennox Lewis. Too much athletism, too much intensity, too much power.

The problem with the morons on here who say, "Tyson probably wouldn't even be on the top 50 of all-time, etc." are people who are biased due to them looking at this character as a person.
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Let's make it simple and easy -

To all you Tyson suck ups (Especially Heyman), ok Tyson has knee damage (still not disclosed how serious though) but when Danny Williams fought Mark Potter a couple of years back, he dislocated his right arm (his good arm) during the fight and it was hanging limp with the shoulder bone popped out for all to see... AND HE KNOCKED HIM OUT WITH HIS LEFT ARM!!! So what if Tyson hurt his little knee, it's a contact sport and when you fight someone with one arm and win by knock out, you demand respect.
I don't disagree with that.

HOWEVER - Even you, with your rosy colored, sun glasses must admit that Tyson DOMINATED the first round against "Diana" Williams. After the 1st round (when Tyson hurt his knee), it was a different story.

Granted - Tyson's 'pain threshold' may not be as high as Williams (when you get older, your threshold for pain gets lower anyways....Williams is much younger than Tyson). However - there's no denying as to who would've won if Tyson had not gotten hurt.
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LMAO, So your saying if he wasn't hurt Tyson would have won?
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LMAO, So your saying if he wasn't hurt Tyson would have won?
What happened in the 1st round of the fight? Who was dominating?
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From the judges scorecards at ringside the first round was given to Williams anyways, So I would not try telling anyone Tyson was dominating at that point, as he wasn't even winning.
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From the judges scorecards at ringside the first round was given to Williams anyways, So I would not try telling anyone Tyson was dominating at that point, as he wasn't even winning.
Was Rob Harvey one of the judges?

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Leaving the door open is the knee injury. Tyson appeared on his way to knocking out Williams with one of his patented first-round flurries. But he suffered the injury about 15 seconds after his biggest punch, which staggered Williams with 1:17 left in the round.

"He couldn't throw the right hand the rest of the fight," Finkel said. "I was screaming from the corner for him to throw it, but he couldn't because he couldn't push off his left leg. I wish we had known the extent of the injury. I asked him why he didn't tell the corner, and he said, `What good would that have done?'"
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Wow some reporter that dosen't even get the name of the guy Tyson was fighting right is a truely reliable source.

I watched the fight and two of the three judges scored the first round 10 - 9 in favour of Williams.

Tyson never had a chance of winning this fight even before it started. As I said earlier, Williams was Too Big, Too Fast, Too Strong and Too Good. He outshone Tyson and will do the same with whoever is throw infront of him over the next 6 - 7 years.
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I watched the fight and two of the three judges scored the first round 10 - 9 in favour of Williams.
So - the whole thing about Tyson making Williams "stagger" was made up? Unless Williams did the same (or more?) to Tyson, I can't see how the judges would scored the round victory to Tyson.

From the sounds of it, it should've been scored 10-8 for Tyson.
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So - the whole thing about Tyson making Williams "stagger" was made up? Unless Williams did the same (or more?) to Tyson, I can't see how the judges would scored the round victory to Tyson.

From the sounds of it, it should've been scored 10-8 for Tyson.
Aside from one good punch from Tyson he did nothing throughout the round, he only threw about 20 punches and was outclassed in workrate, if not accuracy.
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I'm not even a Tyson fan and you can tell he's not even 50%.
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Nice sucker punch there at the end though.
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Pound for Pound, Tyson would struggle to make the top 50 of all time.
what

Struggle to make top 50? Cmon
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Why? He wouldn't make the top 5 heavyweights for a start. Take into account how many weight divisions there are and it's very believable. When he can't make the top 20 pound for pound list today, how can he make the top 50 of all time?

I'm not saying he wouldn't, I'm saying it would be a stretch. If people ranked him in theirs, I wouldn't argue unless he was ranked top 10.

And for the record, Tyson strolled the first round of the fight. I don't know any fights are that scored on one round though.
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Well for a while he was a pretty electrifying boxer, he might not have had the best boxing "skills" but he was knocking guys out with the quickness.

Lately tho he has really fallen off. Guy is a nut. I figured he would have beaten Williams though, even Williams is a much larger fighter. I am not really sure what to thinkg about the knee injury, it could just be an excuse or it could be truthful I really dont know. But like you said he strolled in the 1st round so it would make sense if he really did get hurt.

I could see a rematch down the line possibly, if there is any intrest at all really Tyson is going to have to take it.
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