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Old 11-07-2004, 04:43 PM   #41
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Old 11-07-2004, 04:54 PM   #42
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All it was is a shot at Angle's pride. Angle was schooled by Puder, enough said
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Old 11-07-2004, 08:06 PM   #43
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Yeah, Angle got owned in there. He knew Puder was a former UFC guy, and that he had an ego. Issuing an open challenge like that, anyone could have seen Puder stepping up. And because Puder was in UFC a lot more recently than Angle was in the Olympics, Puder's skills were, frankly, more well homed.

And that count, I saw SmackDown 3 times, and not once did I see a 3 count. A possible 2, but Puder's shoulders were off the mat for the 3rd. Angle played his politics to save himself from a trap he put himself in.

And Triple H (the poster here, not the actual guy) no, we won't stop bitching about the politics. They play a factor on SmackDown, just like Triple H's do on RAW. For you to say that and nothing more on the situation, I must say that you speak pure ass, and I hereby neg-rep you.

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Old 11-07-2004, 10:57 PM   #44
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Evo, the ref making the three count wasn't politics by Angle, it was smart thinking by the ref. You DO NOT let a guy who doesn't even have a contract yet, go over one of your top guys. That was flat out smart and quick thinking by the ref.
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Old 11-07-2004, 11:02 PM   #45
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Yep to whatever ref it was Vince, Angle, and the bookers all owe him a beer.
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Old 11-07-2004, 11:16 PM   #46
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The concept of Angle tapping to a Tough Enough contestant is ridiculous.
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Old 11-07-2004, 11:17 PM   #47
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I'll throw you one further. The concept of Triple H tapping to a Tough Enough contestant is ridiculous. Politics are not even an issue here.
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Old 11-08-2004, 05:38 AM   #48
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The point of a wrestling match isn't at all to make your opponent submit, it's to score points of them, or pin them. And in a real wrestling match, somebody's shoulders don't even have to be on the mat for 3 seconds, they just have to firmly be there long enough for the ref to slap the mat once.
We're talking professional here, not amatuer. The goal of professional wrestling is to win a match, thus furthering yourself towards a title, recognition and making yourself a star that gets paid heaps of bucks. At least that's what it is in my eyes.

That's why I'm sort of against politics. If we follow this rule, then skills, innovation, ability and how markettable you are should dictate who is successful and who is not. It is it important to defend your position, account for what you do, and to maybe sway the people backstage into liking you, thus allowing you to get more opportunities to make yourself big. There is no doubt that being close to you boss is a good move, because it allows you to creep closer to a management role, etc. I however would prefer it if guys didn't use that to make themselves centerfold. I'd rather see a guy like Jericho make it big (I don't know if he plays politics or not), based around his wrestling talent, his ability to entertain, and his ability to draw fans if given the opportunity.
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Old 11-08-2004, 05:39 AM   #49
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Yep to whatever ref it was Vince, Angle, and the bookers all owe him a beer.
I'm not sure if it was Jimmy Cordares or Charles Robinson, but to whoever it was "" and keep on being a champion.
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Old 11-08-2004, 06:02 AM   #50
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Yeah, the people often forget the ref is even in there until he takes a bump. Here is to the maestro of pro wrestling.
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Old 11-08-2004, 06:04 AM   #51
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The concept of Angle tapping to a Tough Enough contestant is ridiculous.
Agreed. Good thing the ref was skilled enough to be able to put things back in perspective so quickly.
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Old 11-08-2004, 07:02 AM   #52
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I've always been a fan of referees, and I wish they'd get more of a "role" in WWE programming. I don't mean a Charles Robinson vs. Nick Patrick feud as in a physical one, but I could certainly see Mike Chiota maybe feel that Earl Hebner is getting too biased in his officiating in his matches. Being a former senior official, Mike Chiota might want to replace Hebner, or at least be recognised as a great referee. I'd just like to see more backstories ot the referees. I'd like it mentioned how Jimmy Cordares is a Canadian referee if he's in a "Canada vs. America" match. Or how Charles Robinson was a tainted WCW official, etc. I just think we should see more "style" in the referees than what we see in the average WWE one these days.
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Old 11-08-2004, 07:05 AM   #53
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Old 11-08-2004, 07:39 AM   #54
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I seriously doubt it. Kurt Angle has a lot, and I mean A LOT of athletic gifts, but for him to go in the ring for real against a seasoned UFC fighter like Puder, well, it wouldn't be pretty for Angle.
lol, why aren't all the UFC olympic wrestling champions then if it's so easy
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Old 11-08-2004, 07:46 AM   #55
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Old 11-08-2004, 11:36 AM   #56
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I seriously doubt it. Kurt Angle has a lot, and I mean A LOT of athletic gifts, but for him to go in the ring for real against a seasoned UFC fighter like Puder, well, it wouldn't be pretty for Angle.
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lol, why aren't all the UFC olympic wrestling champions then if it's so easy
lol, were exactly did I say it was easy?
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Old 11-08-2004, 02:54 PM   #57
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We're talking professional here, not amatuer. The goal of professional wrestling is to win a match, thus furthering yourself towards a title, recognition and making yourself a star that gets paid heaps of bucks. At least that's what it is in my eyes.

That's why I'm sort of against politics. If we follow this rule, then skills, innovation, ability and how markettable you are should dictate who is successful and who is not. It is it important to defend your position, account for what you do, and to maybe sway the people backstage into liking you, thus allowing you to get more opportunities to make yourself big. There is no doubt that being close to you boss is a good move, because it allows you to creep closer to a management role, etc. I however would prefer it if guys didn't use that to make themselves centerfold. I'd rather see a guy like Jericho make it big (I don't know if he plays politics or not), based around his wrestling talent, his ability to entertain, and his ability to draw fans if given the opportunity.
What kind of match this was supposed to be is beyond me. I was speaking to the assumption that Puder was out of line for wrestling MMA style when it was supposed to be an real wrestling match.
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Old 11-08-2004, 04:18 PM   #58
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What kind of match this was supposed to be is beyond me. I was speaking to the assumption that Puder was out of line for wrestling MMA style when it was supposed to be an real wrestling match.
Yeah. I really don't think they should have given the matches. I think they were default WWE singles mathces, they just used different styles. I would have rather seen some kind of "suplex test" or something.
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Old 11-09-2004, 02:06 AM   #59
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I mean, Puder was going at it UFC style, while Angle was probably just going amateur wrestling.


Olympic Champ or not, he's a wrestler not a FIGHTER. Just imagine Shamrock vs Angle, I'd put -all- my money on Ken Shamrock, making Angle tap to the ankle lock.
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LOL.

I highly doubt Shamrock would take Angle, and if he did there is no way in hell it would be with the ANKLE LOCK. You do realize that move as it's applied in the WWE could never be used in a real fight, right?
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LOL.

I highly doubt Shamrock would take Angle, and if he did there is no way in hell it would be with the ANKLE LOCK. You do realize that move as it's applied in the WWE could never be used in a real fight, right?
I totaly disagree. Amateur wrestling is to be greatly admired (as I do) as an art form in my opinion. However, has Angle mastered any submission fighting or striking styles that we are unaware of? If not, lone wrestling will not avail him in a real one on one fight against someone who is accustomed to utilizing more ways to beat him other than wrestling itself.

And you are right. It wouldn't be with the ankle lock, leastways not with the ankle lock that is portrayed in WWE land. But in the UFC, the ankle lock is VERY real.
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