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Old 01-02-2005, 07:42 PM   #41
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LOL Brian Gerwitz is a moron.

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-Head writer of Raw, Brian Gewirtz has personally told the McMahons that he was opposed to bringing back Paul Heyman, because he felt that Heyman would create a competition between the brands and destroy and harmony that the writing teams/brands had built with one another.

THE IDEA IS TO CREATE COMPETITION BETWEEN THE BRANDS TO UP THE RATINGS YOU FUCKING MORON.
And you know who that prick Gerwitz's main supporter is right?
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Old 01-02-2005, 07:46 PM   #42
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And you know who that prick Gerwitz's main supporter is right?
No who?
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Old 01-02-2005, 07:49 PM   #43
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Heyman's worst enemy.
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Old 01-02-2005, 07:59 PM   #44
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O so it's Steph
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:03 PM   #45
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The WWE and Vince McMahon are forgetting what the roster split was supposed to be all about: introducing new superstars and creating more interest in the product as a whole by competition.

At the beginning of the split, I remember JR and King both making fun of Smackdown on Monday nights, while Tazz and Cole would crack jokes about the RAW show as well. These days there is no competition, and it seems like all the creative juices are being poured in RAW's favor with Smackdown being left to suffer.

This is such bullshit, and just one more sign that in a couple of years we won't have a major wrestling company to watch.
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:06 PM   #46
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Yep. But seriously, you'd think Vince would understand that his daughter has NEVER run a wrestling promotion. Neither has Gerwitz. Vince may not like Heyman, but if he's going to let Stephanie run the company, he's got to get someone who can help her learn how, he just can't give her it on a silver plater and expect it to work.

I agree, Heyman isn't the best man for running a promotion, but when it comes to storyline writing, Heyman is one of the best, and he could really teach Steph and thing or two, and he could really help Gerwitz come up with some good stuff as well.

If I were Heyman, I'd try and patch things up with Stephanie, because quite frankly, I think Steph even appreciates what Heyman's done for this business, and understands he's a more talented writer than her.
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:48 PM   #47
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Old 01-02-2005, 09:57 PM   #48
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Yep. But seriously, you'd think Vince would understand that his daughter has NEVER run a wrestling promotion. Neither has Gerwitz. Vince may not like Heyman, but if he's going to let Stephanie run the company, he's got to get someone who can help her learn how, he just can't give her it on a silver plater and expect it to work.

I agree, Heyman isn't the best man for running a promotion, but when it comes to storyline writing, Heyman is one of the best, and he could really teach Steph and thing or two, and he could really help Gerwitz come up with some good stuff as well.

If I were Heyman, I'd try and patch things up with Stephanie, because quite frankly, I think Steph even appreciates what Heyman's done for this business, and understands he's a more talented writer than her.
Hi! I think you may be giving Steph too much credit yeah she knows Heyman is a more talented writer than her all the more reason to get rid of him.
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Old 01-03-2005, 01:20 AM   #49
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Hi! I think you may be giving Steph too much credit yeah she knows Heyman is a more talented writer than her all the more reason to get rid of him.
I hate to say this, but I think you're right.
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Old 01-03-2005, 01:22 AM   #50
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ha!

TNA is worse than the WWE.

At least Hunter is a legitamate main event talent, in TNA you have to book everything so "Mr 3rd match on the card" can look like a superstar.
Well, that could all change if Heyman got behind the wheel. Jerry Jarrett had a falling out with his son, and Dusty Rhodes seems to be doing a father-son thing while booking, sohaving Heyman handle it would make the promotion much more unbiased, IMO.

Heyman could really do wonders with what they already have.
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Old 01-03-2005, 12:44 PM   #51
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If this does happen it could quite possibly be the stupidest thing the WWE could do.
No it's not.
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Old 01-03-2005, 01:59 PM   #52
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Well, that could all change if Heyman got behind the wheel. Jerry Jarrett had a falling out with his son, and Dusty Rhodes seems to be doing a father-son thing while booking, sohaving Heyman handle it would make the promotion much more unbiased, IMO.

Heyman could really do wonders with what they already have.
Of course it would, but Jerry and Jeff would never give up control.
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Old 01-03-2005, 03:07 PM   #53
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Of course it would, but Jerry and Jeff would never give up control.
I think you're right. Someone will always try and remain in control there, but maybe if they brought Heyman in as a booker? I dunno, but I just watched the ECW DVD, and for some reason I really miss the old Heyman-run episodes of SmackDown!. Maybe it's just because they are the best editions of SmackDown! post-roster split.

Anyway, watching the end of that DVD, it seems Heyman likes to learn from his mistakes. If they put Heyman in control one more time, I really think it could work out.
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Old 01-03-2005, 03:23 PM   #54
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Heyman is brilliant, but remember Heyman couldn't just "take over" a company like TNA or ROH...he would have rules and restrictions...

Even if the WWE released Heyman, there isn't a large enough audience to view anything Heyman does...he could show up on TNA and vent his frustration...but that doesn't mean most anyone would see it. Remember that casual fans are not us. We are the minority, and our undying love and loyalty to Paul is amoungst a very small percentage.

So them releasing Paul isn't ultimatly going to hurt the company much if any.
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Old 01-03-2005, 03:31 PM   #55
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Jerry and Jeff Jarrett don't own TNA though. Panda Energy do so it's very possible they could hire Heyman to run the show.
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Old 01-03-2005, 03:51 PM   #56
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Old 01-03-2005, 04:01 PM   #57
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Heyman is brilliant, but remember Heyman couldn't just "take over" a company like TNA or ROH...he would have rules and restrictions...

Even if the WWE released Heyman, there isn't a large enough audience to view anything Heyman does...he could show up on TNA and vent his frustration...but that doesn't mean most anyone would see it. Remember that casual fans are not us. We are the minority, and our undying love and loyalty to Paul is amoungst a very small percentage.

So them releasing Paul isn't ultimatly going to hurt the company much if any.
I understand that, but I think Heyman NEEDS rules and restrictions to keep him from going overboard, but he needs to have that undeniable power as well.

And there's no doubt Heyman won't take much of a crowd with him to TNA, but with him behind the wheel, the product would probably attract a bit more talent, and Heyman could really turn TNA into a little goldmine. Better wrestlers, storylines, angles, gimmicks, matches, etc. are the first steps to becomming a successful wrestling promotion, and if Heyman can do that (and he has just about as good of a shot as anyone else), then I really think eventually TNA could be seen as viable competition to the WWE.
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Old 01-03-2005, 04:05 PM   #58
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I think Heyman has some heat with the NWA fans I'm not sure.
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Old 01-03-2005, 11:26 PM   #59
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I think Heyman has had heat with everyone in the wrestling industry at some point in time.
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Old 01-04-2005, 03:49 PM   #60
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Several credible news sites are reporting Heyman is at Smackdown right now and there is a good chance he will be used as an on-air character tonight.
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Old 01-04-2005, 03:56 PM   #61
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Old 01-04-2005, 04:42 PM   #62
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Several credible news sites are reporting Heyman is at Smackdown right now and there is a good chance he will be used as an on-air character tonight.
That sends warm chills up my spine. I hope he is, and I hope he returns to writing soon (I think he will eventually).
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Old 01-04-2005, 06:27 PM   #63
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Humm, if this is true then maybe Heyman will be involved in the ECW PPW I hope
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I hope he appears at New Year's Revolution in a role. I don't know why, but I can see him doing something in the Chamber.
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Old 01-04-2005, 07:05 PM   #65
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Heyman then demands Vince hires him back, as well as Mysterio, RVD and Tazz. Vince then says he'll fire all those helping Paul right then and there, Heyman then says they'll just go to TNA. Vince then looks a bit worried before smirking and asking Heyman if he will run them into the ground, as well. Heyman then laughs and says he has a bargaining chip. Heyman then simply calls "Steve.", then out of the pick-up truck comes Steve Austin. I know a lot of people would be against the return of Stone Cold Steve Austin, but for something like this, him coming back, even if just for a night, would be GREAT, IMO, simply because of his name power, it would recreate the feeling from the Austin/McMahon feud, where if McMahon went straight out and fired Austin, he would just go to another company as their main draw and make them money, and take the fans with him.
Substitute Lesnar for Austin. With Heyman managing the monster again, he really would have a bargaining chip :P
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Substitute Lesnar for Austin. With Heyman managing the monster again, he really would have a bargaining chip :P
That's a good point, but Lesnar was never in ECW. And Austin was a bigger draw, I won't happen anyway, but we can all dream of Heyman and Vince in the ring together, watching Heyman semi-shoot.
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Old 01-04-2005, 07:18 PM   #67
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So, think Vince would keep Heyman on the payroll doing nothing, to keep him from going to say TNA?
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Thats pretty much what Vince has done for the past 3 years.
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So, think Vince would keep Heyman on the payroll doing nothing, to keep him from going to say TNA?
Yeah, thats pretty much what Vince has done w/ Heyman for the past 4 years.
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I'll just take this story....
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According to "rumors" on 1wrestling.com, it's quite possible Paul Heyman is completely gone from WWE.

As has been covered pretty well the last few weeks, Heyman is no longer part of the writing team, nor does he travel on the road to work as Heidenreich's manager. In addition to that, it was recently discovered that his bio page on the SmackDown! superstar listing has been removed completely.

With rumors of an ECW pay-per view (the talk is a June PPV in New York City), one would wonder how it would be authentic enough without the touch or input from Paul Heyman. This is what many ECW loyalists were afraid of when hearing the rumors of WWE considering reviving the brand name under their umbrella.


And mix it with this story.....
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According to sources within the industry, Ted Turner is apparently considering a return to the wrestling business. As the story goes, when AOL merged with Time Warner, Ted Turner was losing power within the company and had to sign several documents relinquishing power. One of the documents that Turner signed was an agreement that he could not compete against AOL Time Warner in the wrestling business until March of 2005.
Mix the genius of Heyman and the Billions of Turner and.....AHHHHHHH...there are those endorphins!!!!
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Old 01-04-2005, 10:09 PM   #71
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Turner said he's not doing wrestling again.
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Paul Heyman is backstage at the Smackdown taping today and is expected to appear on camera. No other details are available right now.
There's proof he's not released.
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Old 01-04-2005, 11:00 PM   #73
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It's Heyman and Heidenreich vs. Undertaker on Smackdown!
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It's Heyman and Heidenreich vs. Undertaker on Smackdown!
I hope Paul Heyman blames Heidenreich for Undertaker harming him, next week and sets The Dudleys or Tazz on him as punishment.
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Heyman at SD tapings

- Paul Heyman is backstage at the Mohegan Sun Arena in Mohegan Sun, CT for tonight's WWE SmackDown tapings.

It isn't known what role Heyman will be playing, if any, at the show tonight. According to sources, Heyman is expected to be on this week's episode of SmackDown.

We will have a full spoiler report from the show later tonight.

Credit: Dave Scherer @ PWInsider.com
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Old 01-05-2005, 12:07 AM   #76
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I'm merging this thread with the "Heyman" thread cause it's already there
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Old 01-05-2005, 12:13 AM   #77
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Old 01-05-2005, 12:16 AM   #78
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Old 01-06-2005, 08:24 PM   #79
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He's still around and still being used.
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Old 01-06-2005, 09:20 PM   #80
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I heard today on BTR that Heyman was suspended and allowed on SD only this week to finish his storyline with Heidenreich. As far as I know he's still suspended after this week, and there wasn't any info as to why he is, but I'll guess it was thanks to the dynamic duo of Stephanie and Gerwitz.
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