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Old 07-04-2005, 07:39 PM   #1
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A woman shoved your fat head out of her vagina, I'm sure she could get tackled. Or tackle, if she was fat enough. My brother's fiance is a pretty hefty gal, and she bench pressed a couple hundred pounds her first time. Most girls would rather not get strong, though, since that's considered "unattractive," e.g. Williams brothers.
Which is why football players wil primarily be ugly diesel dykes.
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Old 07-04-2005, 07:54 PM   #2
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At least in Minnesota, there are women's football leagues cropping up. They're all awesome, leathery, bikers or lumberjacks. Retired firefighters, and that sort. God, I'd want to see THAT calendar.
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Which league makes more money: the NFL or the uh... national rugby association?
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Football has a completely different dimension to it than rugby because you're allowed to block and it's also legal to tackle without wrapping. That creates a lot of blindside hits that make pads a necessity. Also head on collisions at full speed occur a lot more in football than in rugby. Not to mention that it's legal to hit someone while they are in the air. Both are incredibly tough sports to play. In rugby you get hit more and in football you get hit harder. It doesn't make either more manly that the other. Both are great to play.
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They are both fun to play and both deal with a great bit of contact. I would say that football is tougher on the body though, in my experience.
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I wouldn't rule out a woman ever being able to play in the NHL. If one sport had a rule against women, I would assume it be baseball, just because it seems to have more stuff like that written down. But I could see a day when there is a woman capable of playing in the NHL. You guys talk about it as if all women are super models. There is a girl who played on a guys varsity hockey team in Minnesota, Annika Sorenstam can squat like 500 pounds, I don't think its something to completely rule out for hockey.

Anyway, to the rugby vs. american football argument, I would say that rugby players are tougher just by watching their sport, but to call football not tough because they wear pads is pretty dumb. It's not like they go out there with pillows stuffed in their bellies, they wear less pads then hockey players and hit players 10 times more.
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A guy I was with last night was upset that African-American businesses can say "African American Preferred" on help wanted signs, thats nearly as stupid as Buzzkill being upset that men can't play in the LPGA.
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A guy I was with last night was upset that African-American businesses can say "African American Preferred" on help wanted signs, thats nearly as stupid as Buzzkill being upset that men can't play in the LPGA.
The problem with that is that it is discriminatory. Could you imagine a white businessman advertising "White candidate preferred"?

You can't correct discrimination with discrimination. There is a case here in Canada where a man is suing an "all womens gym" for discrimination. As "all men gyms" are discriminatory, shouldn't this also be a problem. What a fucked up planet we live in?

I'm not disagreeing with you BCWWF, I'm just pointing out some realities and logic problems we encounter when it comes to these types of situations.
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The problem with that is that it is discriminatory. Could you imagine a white businessman advertising "White candidate preferred"?

You can't correct discrimination with discrimination. There is a case here in Canada where a man is suing an "all womens gym" for discrimination. As "all men gyms" are discriminatory, shouldn't this also be a problem. What a fucked up planet we live in?

I'm not disagreeing with you BCWWF, I'm just pointing out some realities and logic problems we encounter when it comes to these types of situations.
So...Trying to bring this back on topic...

Okay. Several of the tournies REFUSE women in the PGA. Remember, these are people who wouldn't let a cripple play because he couldn't walk to the various holes.

To this end, I have no problem with a "Women only" organisation, since there's already a "men only" organisation. Why cna't you adress a serious issue, like how they don't let non-alcoholics into AA meetings? That's some serious discrimination there.

Would you have the same objections if they were the same organisation, and different divisions? It's still technically discrimination, but everyone seems okay with it.
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The point is that a white guy has one billion more options then a black guy, and men have a billion more options then women. Why act like you are being discriminated against when you clearly aren't.
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The point is that a white guy has one billion more options then a black guy, and men have a billion more options then women. Why act like you are being discriminated against when you clearly aren't.
That's a generalization. Rich Black People and Rich women aren't discriminated against as much as the poor white trailer trash guy. Fat people are discrimated against more than slim people. Ugly people are discrimated against more than beautiful people.......
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The point is that a white guy has one billion more options then a black guy, and men have a billion more options then women. Why act like you are being discriminated against when you clearly aren't.
Not realy. Especially in university where scholarships have to be divided equally. In the pro ranks yes, but that's because nobody wants to watch it
 
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There is nothing written in the PGA that REFUSES women from participating. They have to qualify. Same goes for any man who wants to be on the tour. Exemptions have been given to women in the past (Sorenstam and Wie have played PGA events). The LPGA has gender written in its rules.

Regarding cripples, it has to do with the rules of the sport. I was hoping that they would make an exception for Casey Martin to play, but again as the rules state you have to walk the course it becomes a delicate issue. I'm pretty sure some fat dudes like John Daly would prefer to use a cart because it is easier. I guess they didn't want to open a crack they couldn't close. Personally I disagreed with it, but it's their sport....

Please don't make the assumption that I support these issues. I do not in many cases. They are just hurdles that get thrown in the way as the fly in the face of other practices in our society.
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There is nothing written in the PGA that REFUSES women from participating. They have to qualify. Same goes for any man who wants to be on the tour. Exemptions have been given to women in the past (Sorenstam and Wie have played PGA events).
I don't know if you've looked around lately, but there are tours REFUSING women. Using past examples when the present indicates it's otherwise true is poor arguing. I mean, pay attention to the actual news, they were getting protested for this shit. When the PGA is saying bye bye to sponsors who wanted women on the show...

But it's not in the rules. I suppose that makes it okay.

You know, like racial profiling. It's not in the laws, it's an unofficial policy where practiced.
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The protesting is referring to Augusta National which is a golf course and has nothing to do with the PGA tour. It states that only men can be members. Women can play the course, but can not be a member.
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Shouldn't this be in the casual forum, being a golf topic and all?
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Shouldn't this be in the casual forum, being a golf topic and all?
I was thinking the discussion forum myself.....
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Rob, Russia has been a Hockey power forever. Every cold climate nation is a good Hockey nation, most everywhere.

Czech republic, slovakia, finland, sweden, poland, belarus, kazakstan, latvia, germany, france(although they suck)..
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Yeah, I noticed the Russia comment too.

That being said, the NBA also has quite a large international influence. Besides Eastern Europe, basketball has expanded into Asia quite a bit now. I do believe that he made that comment to get a reaction though, so I should probably stop right about.......here.
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