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Old 08-24-2005, 09:37 PM   #41
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HBK should have gone away with it. If bret thought it was right to go to a rival company with out putting someone over hes a bigger dick than Hogan. Any how he would have thrown the title in the trash like Alundria blaze did. Vince & HBK did what had to be done.
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:44 PM   #42
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GET THE FUCK OVER IT. Bret Hart was one of the best, but he is by no means completely fucking innocent on this deal. He should have been the bigger man and done the job.
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:48 PM   #43
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GET THE FUCK OVER IT. Bret Hart was one of the best, but he is by no means completely fucking innocent on this deal. He should have been the bigger man and done the job.
Damn son dont bust a nerve, I never said the guy couldnt wrestle. And as far as get the fuck over it.....tell that to the Canadians.
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Canadians still aren't over Wayne Gretzky's retirement.
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:09 PM   #45
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Canadians still aren't over Wayne Gretzky's retirement.
How do you get ove wayne gretzky;s retirement? Thats like getting over Micheal Jord.......Tiger Woods' retirment!
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Who the fuck cares? Hogan, Micheals, and Bret are all reasons why we still have WWE on our fuckin TVs. I appreciate what happens in the ring not behind the scenes. Its like worrying about how A-Rod or Barry Bonds acts in the clubhouse. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!

My problem lies with one little incident three years ago.

King of the Ring 2002. Kurt Angle makes Hulk Hogan tap out....cleanly. Now I'm a Hogan fan, but I'm not mad because Hogan lost, I'm mad because this is never mentioned on WWE TV. If you're trying to build Angle up to be this generation's Bret Hart or Ric Flair, why not mention once or twice that he made the IMMORTAL HULK HOGAN TAP OUT!!!
GOD DAMMIT!!!!!:foc: :foc:
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:16 PM   #47
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Who the fuck cares? Hogan, Micheals, and Bret are all reasons why we still have WWE on our fuckin TVs. I appreciate what happens in the ring not behind the scenes. Its like worrying about how A-Rod or Barry Bonds acts in the clubhouse. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!

My problem lies with one little incident three years ago.

King of the Ring 2002. Kurt Angle makes Hulk Hogan tap out....cleanly. Now I'm a Hogan fan, but I'm not mad because Hogan lost, I'm mad because this is never mentioned on WWE TV. If you're trying to build Angle up to be this generation's Bret Hart or Ric Flair, why not mention once or twice that he made the IMMORTAL HULK HOGAN TAP OUT!!!
GOD DAMMIT!!!!!:foc: :foc:
I probolly watch that match once a month, in slow-mo. Hogans hand slaping the mat. AAAAAAAHHHH, memories. :\'(
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Although HBK has played some of the same games in the past I believe that he earned his sway by working his ass off and by constantly having classic match after classic match. Hogan was just selected to have the "Goldberg gimmick" of his time and never really had much special going for him except for a golden work ethic at the gym.HBK will go down in history for his golden mic skills and his unparralled athleticism while Hogan will go down in history as a living, breathing gimmick.

The fact that Hogan refused to do the job is not surprising, but it is disgusting just the same. Shawn is 5 times the performer and ten times the athlete that Hogan ever was. At least when Shawn was getting his way, he would always deliver no matter what. Even now, he puts on a great match. Hogan should've retired 5 years ago....
Hogan wasn't just selected overnight. Hulk had success in Japan and had apparently gotten over via being in Rocky III. Say what you want about Hogan's in-ring skills, or lack thereof, but he wasn't just picked from a hat and "given the Goldberg gimmick".

Like him or not, and regardless of what's gone down in recent years, Hulk Hogan paid dues just like everyone else of that era.
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:29 AM   #49
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HBK should have gone away with it. If bret thought it was right to go to a rival company with out putting someone over hes a bigger dick than Hogan. Any how he would have thrown the title in the trash like Alundria blaze did. Vince & HBK did what had to be done.
Once Again, another case of not knowing the facts. Bret said himself and I heard it again from him at Fanfest that he would of put ANYONE in the company over for the Title, except HBK. Well, he was willing to put HBK over until HBK told him straight up he would never put Bret over.

Bret even told a story Sunday that he was scheduled to face Brooklyn Brawler, who won a battle royal, for the Title eathier before or after Survivor Series and he would of had no problem dropping the belt to him. That got a chuckle out of the audience BTW.
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:37 AM   #50
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First of all... If the roles were reversed and HBK was the ass in this situation. Everyone would probably be dawgin him. That aside, i wanted HBK to win this match , but i dont feel sorry for his situation and i dont hate Hogan for not wanting to do the job. Thats business. HBK knows about that kind of business.
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Once Again, another case of not knowing the facts. Bret said himself and I heard it again from him at Fanfest that he would of put ANYONE in the company over for the Title, except HBK. Well, he was willing to put HBK over until HBK told him straight up he would never put Bret over.

Bret even told a story Sunday that he was scheduled to face Brooklyn Brawler, who won a battle royal, for the Title eathier before or after Survivor Series and he would of had no problem dropping the belt to him. That got a chuckle out of the audience BTW.
I knew this. Pardon me for not beleiving everything that comes out of Brets mouth. Bret can hold any personal vendetta he wants, its not the wrestlers place to book matches (despite his creative control over his charector in the last 30 days of his contract.) If I worked at Mcdonalds I wouldnt tell my boss how to flip burgers.
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Who the fuck cares? Hogan, Micheals, and Bret are all reasons why we still have WWE on our fuckin TVs. I appreciate what happens in the ring not behind the scenes. Its like worrying about how A-Rod or Barry Bonds acts in the clubhouse. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!

My problem lies with one little incident three years ago.

King of the Ring 2002. Kurt Angle makes Hulk Hogan tap out....cleanly. Now I'm a Hogan fan, but I'm not mad because Hogan lost, I'm mad because this is never mentioned on WWE TV. If you're trying to build Angle up to be this generation's Bret Hart or Ric Flair, why not mention once or twice that he made the IMMORTAL HULK HOGAN TAP OUT!!!
GOD DAMMIT!!!!!:foc: :foc:
Okay, two points.

One: The way A-Rod or Bonds act backstage is different because...Survey Says? Baseball isn't a staged performance!

See, there's the sticking point. Whether or not Hogan or Michaels wants to do the job, and hwo they handle themselves is more likely to directly affect what we see on TV.

Second: What do you expect? For them to book Angle and make Hogan look bad?

Which ties to #1. Would you really expect that to result in baseball?

"And now for his 50th season in a row...Pitching for the New York Yankees..."
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I knew this. Pardon me for not beleiving everything that comes out of Brets mouth. Bret can hold any personal vendetta he wants, its not the wrestlers place to book matches (despite his creative control over his charector in the last 30 days of his contract.) If I worked at Mcdonalds I wouldnt tell my boss how to flip burgers.
Yup, because how you flipped those burgers would really affect your ability to draw a paycheck/respect elsewhere.
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so why did you post and I quote "f bret thought it was right to go to a rival company with out putting someone over hes a bigger dick than Hogan."

Again, he was willing to put "someone" over.

And I hope you know Bret's not the only one that will tell you that. Ask most of the boys that were thier during that time. They'll tell you the same thing.

And why wouldn't you suggest to your boss how to flip burgers? If you have a better more cost saving way, hell, make a suggesstion. You know how most famous people got famous? By changing the ways things are done in thier company and suggessting new ideas. That's how the world moves ahead
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Yup, because how you flipped those burgers would really affect your ability to draw a paycheck/respect elsewhere.
So you'd rather have Bret save face then the WWE? To me the Bret screw job saved the "Monday Night War" for the WWE. Do you really belive Bret wouldnt have thrown the belt in the trash on Nitro?
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What I would like to know is where was HHH in all of this??

HBK is his Kliq buddy and we all know about the backstage pull that he has.Anyways this does prove Shawn is a different person now because the old shawn would of refused to put Hogan over like that and if HBK wanted to he could of still said he is not Jobbing to Hogan and still keep his job.You think Vince would fire Shawn as over as he is with the crowd and risk him going to tna??

HBK gave in to Hogan winning cleanly because it's the dream match fans wanted to see.Hogan saying he comes back for the fans is a bunch of BS.Hogan would of refused the match if he had to job to HBK.
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so why did you post and I quote "f bret thought it was right to go to a rival company with out putting someone over hes a bigger dick than Hogan."

Again, he was willing to put "someone" over.

And I hope you know Bret's not the only one that will tell you that. Ask most of the boys that were thier during that time. They'll tell you the same thing.

And why wouldn't you suggest to your boss how to flip burgers? If you have a better more cost saving way, hell, make a suggesstion. You know how most famous people got famous? By changing the ways things are done in thier company and suggessting new ideas. That's how the world moves ahead
He SAID he was willing. I doubt that was true. Your right about the burgers, but you've clearly never work at Mcdonalds...
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So you'd rather have Bret save face then the WWE? To me the Bret screw job saved the "Monday Night War" for the WWE. Do you really belive Bret wouldnt have thrown the belt in the trash on Nitro?
Now you're talking about storylines, while we were talking about real life behind the scenes
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So you'd rather have Bret save face then the WWE? To me the Bret screw job saved the "Monday Night War" for the WWE. Do you really belive Bret wouldnt have thrown the belt in the trash on Nitro?
Yes, I really believe that Bret had more respect for professional wrestling than that. Bret was still set to work WWF dates, as late as into December, if necessary, so I really don't see why Shawn using the Sharpshooter at the Survivor Series was the only way to avoid that.

You tried a comparison that doesn't work. Burger-flipping and professional wrestling are two different animals entirely, even though starting pay for both is probably roughly the same.
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He SAID he was willing. I doubt that was true. Your right about the burgers, but you've clearly never work at Mcdonalds...
Why do you doubt that? Name me a time when Bret Hart was selfish about what he was given or who he was given to work with in the WWF? Other then Survvior Series, cause you'll probably say that.
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Now you're talking about storylines, while we were talking about real life behind the scenes
Throwing the belt away on Nitro would have been a serious coo. WWF fans see there champ trash their belt for what he belives is the better company could have caused those fans to stop watching the WWF and turn to WCW. In my opinion justfying Vince/HBK's decision to "screw Bret," it was best for the WWE.
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Why do you doubt that? Name me a time when Bret Hart was selfish about what he was given or who he was given to work with in the WWF? Other then Survvior Series, cause you'll probably say that.
He wouldn't put the aging Bob Backlund over cleanly at Survivor Series 1994!

























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If you thought for 1 second Bret would of thrown the WWF Title in the trash with how much respect he had for that company, you don't know Bret at all. He talked about that very thing at Fanfest too. He said something along the lines of "Vince and guys within the WWE at the time always use the excuse that I would of went to WCW and thrown the WWF Title in the garbage. That's a bunch of bullshit because first of all, I couldn't have done that if I wanted to. He said after Madusa threw her belt in the trash, the WWF went and put a some sort of protection on the belt (forgot exactly what he said) that if he would of thrown it in the trash, he and WCW could of gotten sued for everything they had."
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If you thought for 1 second Bret would of thrown the WWF Title in the trash with how much respect he had for that company, you don't know Bret at all. He talked about that very thing at Fanfest too. He said something along the lines of "Vince and guys within the WWE at the time always use the excuse that I would of went to WCW and thrown the WWF Title in the garbage. That's a bunch of bullshit because first of all, I couldn't have done that if I wanted to. He said after Madusa threw her belt in the trash, the WWF went and put a some sort of protection on the belt (forgot exactly what he said) that if he would of thrown it in the trash, he and WCW could of gotten sued for everything they had."
Even still, I could forgive Vince not wanting Bret to even have the title at all, leaving the WWF. I just always felt that IF Vince was SO deadset on Michaels winning, he should've never agreed to anything else with Bret.

Vince: "Bret, this is the way it is."

And if Bret didn't come out, then that'd be a forfeit, and he'd look like a pussy.
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Why do you doubt that? Name me a time when Bret Hart was selfish about what he was given or who he was given to work with in the WWF? Other then Survvior Series, cause you'll probably say that.
I dont know bret. so I cant really jusify it when comes to him. my opinions are drawn from a generalzation (though maybe unfair) I have gathered from the wrestlers I have met or worked with. With out exception the all do the same. Say one thing to your face, turn around and tell the next guy the opposite. Wrestlers go out in front of a crowd of people and lie (or act depending on your stand) every night, in time it comes into their personal life. I have grown not to trust wrestlers, but i am willing to imagine that Bret is the one honest guy in the buisness.
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Throwing the belt away on Nitro would have been a serious coo. WWF fans see there champ trash their belt for what he belives is the better company could have caused those fans to stop watching the WWF and turn to WCW. In my opinion justfying Vince/HBK's decision to "screw Bret," it was best for the WWE.
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Anyway, weren't you the guy who was claiming that we need to give Masters the benefit of the doubt?

What reason did you have specifically to believe that Bret would opt for this coup?
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I dont know bret. so I cant really jusify it when comes to him. my opinions are drawn from a generalzation (though maybe unfair) I have gathered from the wrestlers I have met or worked with. With out exception the all do the same. Say one thing to your face, turn around and tell the next guy the opposite. Wrestlers go out in front of a crowd of people and lie (or act depending on your stand) every night, in time it comes into their personal life. I have grown not to trust wrestlers, but i am willing to imagine that Bret is the one honest guy in the buisness.
Because you've undoubtedly met a LARGE majority of famous professional wrestlers and worked with them to the extent that you were able to determine if they were talking about you behind your back or not.

That has less credibility than the current WWE tag team division.
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Even still, I could forgive Vince not wanting Bret to even have the title at all, leaving the WWF. I just always felt that IF Vince was SO deadset on Michaels winning, he should've never agreed to anything else with Bret.

Vince: "Bret, this is the way it is."

And if Bret didn't come out, then that'd be a forfeit, and he'd look like a pussy.
The funniest thing is that they complained when Austin did the same thing. Wonder where Steve learned that.
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Even still, I could forgive Vince not wanting Bret to even have the title at all, leaving the WWF. I just always felt that IF Vince was SO deadset on Michaels winning, he should've never agreed to anything else with Bret.

Vince: "Bret, this is the way it is."

And if Bret didn't come out, then that'd be a forfeit, and he'd look like a pussy.
Yea, I agree. It was Vince's Title and I can see why Bret had to drop it. There's no question Bret NEEDED to drop the thing before going to WCW. I just don't understand Vince's reasoning at all for doing what he did at the PPV. And I hate to bring up Survivor Series for the 5,000 time on here, but I just hate when people don't have all the facts straight. And this is one of those deals where you should know all the facts out there before having an opinion on the situation.
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Because you've undoubtedly met a LARGE majority of famous professional wrestlers and worked with them to the extent that you were able to determine if they were talking about you behind your back or not.

That has less credibility than the current WWE tag team division.
Hey, you meet a lot of main eventers flipping burgers.
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Hey, you meet a lot of main eventers flipping burgers.
At least Triple H doesn't try to tell you how long to cook the french fries.
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At least Triple H doesn't try to tell you how long to cook the french fries.
Naw. They've got a timer for that. He's busy holding down the cashiers.
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Anyway, weren't you the guy who was claiming that we need to give Masters the benefit of the doubt?

What reason did you have specifically to believe that Bret would opt for this coup?
Thank you for correcting me. yes I was (pertaining to Masters). While watching his A&E biography "Hitman Bret Hart: Wrestling with Shadows" it showed the Hitman asking Vince to give him just one more dollar than WCW had offerd him. This led me to the notion he didnt care about WWF on the inside but the almighty dollar. By that rational I became of the opinion he would do as Blaze did and pitch the title, for the cash.
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Just to ignore the big argument going on in this thread (everyone knows where I stand) and remark on the HBK/Hogan situation, it's so typical of HBK to immaturely vent his frustration on live TV. You think he'd handle the situation like an adult.
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Thank you for correcting me. yes I was (pertaining to Masters). While watching his A&E biography "Hitman Bret Hart: Wrestling with Shadows" it showed the Hitman asking Vince to give him just one more dollar than WCW had offerd him. This led me to the notion he didnt care about WWF on the inside but the almighty dollar. By that rational I became of the opinion he would do as Blaze did and pitch the title, for the cash.
He wanted ONE more dollar, and then if he really wanted it, he probably could've gotten WCW to give him another ten or hundred THOUSAND dollars.

Bret really didn't want to leave the WWF, but Vince McMahon more or less asked him to, in order to save money. True story.
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Just wandering, but did any ever wander if the whole thing was a work? Kind of like the Jerry Lawler Andy Kauffman deal? Its never set quit right with me.
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Just to ignore the big argument going on in this thread (everyone knows where I stand) and remark on the HBK/Hogan situation, it's so typical of HBK to immaturely vent his frustration on live TV. You think he'd handle the situation like an adult.
This is the most adult Shawn's ever handled anything like this.
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Just wandering, but did any ever wander if the whole thing was a work? Kind of like the Jerry Lawler Andy Kauffman deal? Its never set quit right with me.
Yup, it's exactly like Lawler and Kauffman.
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Because you've undoubtedly met a LARGE majority of famous professional wrestlers and worked with them to the extent that you were able to determine if they were talking about you behind your back or not.

That has less credibility than the current WWE tag team division.
Look, I dint want to go hear on a wrestling forum site... but go to oldschoolwrestlers.com.go into the site, click roster, click Drago, there you should see a picture of me (provided there up.)
So yeah I've met my fair share of wrestlers.
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Look, I dint want to go hear on a wrestling forum site... but go to oldschoolwrestlers.com.go into the site, click roster, click Drago, there you should see a picture of me (provided there up.)
So yeah I've met my fair share of wrestlers.
lmao @ that site
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