Most Overrated Players in Sports - Page 2

RP · 10-07-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

You really can't be this stupid can you?

Actually, yeah, you could be and well, you are.

Is that it? You call me stupid. No reason. Just calling me stupid. Typical coming from you.

I'm shocked you havent broke out the Peyton Manning overrated card yet.

**Splaya** · 10-07-2005, 03:30 PM

Sergay Federov
Randy Johnson
ARod
Kerry Wood
Shockey
Trent Green

**VonErich Lives** · 10-07-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

Is that it? You call me stupid. No reason. Just calling me stupid. Typical coming from you.

I'm shocked you havent broke out the Peyton Manning overrated card yet.

Once again you prove you're an idiot.

If you kept reading you'd see where I quoted Miz and what I was replying to and why you're an idiot.

Also, if you actually pulled your head out of your ass and read a bit, you'd see I've never said Manning is over rated, and has great physical tools, but with one exception has always folded under pressure/ in big games.

You've gone from being a funny blind homer, to a waste of time idiot.

10-07-2005, 04:03 PM

Warren Sapp, Rasheed Wallace

**The Gooch** · 10-08-2005, 12:08 AM

David Beckham. C'mon, missing the net on a penalty kick can't happen in a big game.

I think Becks is awesome and one of the best passers in soccer, but for all of that he still fucked up when English soccer fans needed him most.

**The Outlaw** · 10-08-2005, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Splaya

Randy Johnson
ARod

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**Y2C** · 10-08-2005, 01:21 AM

Anybody from the ICC World XI

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-08-2005, 01:30 AM

Derek Lowe

He did great for the Red Sox last year during the playoffs. During the regular season though he did not really do very well. Then LA went and signed him to a huge deal and he was exactly what he was in Boston the year before - an average pitcher.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-08-2005, 01:31 AM

Shockey gets way too much coverage too IMO. He's good but the way he gets talked about you would think he is a first ballot hall of famer

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 10-08-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Gooch

David Beckham. C'mon, missing the net on a penalty kick can't happen in a big game.

I think Becks is awesome and one of the best passers in soccer, but for all of that he still fucked up when English soccer fans needed him most.

Roberto Baggio did the same thing in the World Cup final. He was still the man.

**YOUR Hero** · 10-08-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34

Derek Lowe

He did great for the Red Sox last year during the playoffs. During the regular season though he did not really do very well. Then LA went and signed him to a huge deal and he was exactly what he was in Boston the year before - an average pitcher.

Who cheats on his wife.

**VonErich Lives** · 10-08-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by YOUR Hero

Who cheats on his wife.

Which has what to do with his ability to pitch?

He was cheating on her in Boston and won a WS. Only difference is rather then local "fans" at the clubs/bars he moved on to a sports reporter... I hope for her sake it works out, otherwise she comitted career suicide.

**YOUR Hero** · 10-08-2005, 12:29 PM

You think the distraction of having a divorce and people question your character doesn't affect your job, your ability to do your job?

I guess you'd never know, you know, since you have a dog and not a wife.

LK · 10-08-2005, 05:35 PM

Barry Ferguson - Looks decent when playing pish like Richie Hart and Darren Young in the SPL but his inability to take control of a game in Europe or on the international scene is always apparent.

**OssMan** · 10-08-2005, 06:20 PM

RP · 10-09-2005, 01:59 AM

VEL are you in first grade? You really do act like it sometimes.

**Crimson** · 10-09-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by el fregadero

A mister Troy Polamalu.

C'mon ,are you jus gonna throw any name out there,lol. He is good, but not better than ROY

**el fregadero** · 10-10-2005, 12:59 AM

No, Roy Williams is pracitcally the definition of overrated. I like him, but he isn't the best safety at anything.

**VonErich Lives** · 10-10-2005, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by YOUR Hero

You think the distraction of having a divorce and people question your character doesn't affect your job, your ability to do your job?

I guess you'd never know, you know, since you have a dog and not a wife.

It might, it might not, all depends on the person doesn't it?

That being said, he cheated, he filed for the divorcee, what does he have to feel sorry for? It's not like it was some shock to him.

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

VEL are you in first grade? You really do act like it sometimes.

Ok, boy wonder... explain this one....

Or is this simply "I have nothing logical to say and the attention isn't on me, so I'll just throw a random insult to up my post count"

RP · 10-10-2005, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

It might, it might not, all depends on the person doesn't it?

That being said, he cheated, he filed for the divorcee, what does he have to feel sorry for? It's not like it was some shock to him.

Ok, boy wonder... explain this one....

Or is this simply "I have nothing logical to say and the attention isn't on me, so I'll just throw a random insult to up my post count"

Whever people disagree with you, you call them a idiot or stupid. Look at your own posts.

**RBM** · 10-10-2005, 04:49 AM

Derek Jeter.

**Y2C** · 10-10-2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by YOUR Hero

Who cheats on his wife.

Most sporting players do, but only few get caught.

**Rob Ban Fan** · 10-10-2005, 09:11 AM

I was gonna say Frank Lampard too.

Everyone creams their pants over him, calling him one of, if not the best midfielders in Europe. Its GAY. He scores a lot of goals, yes because he constantly shoots. Whenever he gets the ball and he's outside the box he has a dig and a lot of them get deflected in. But his passing is very limited and aside from hammering the ball, he doesn't do a lot else.

Thats what fucked me off about him in Euro 2004 for England. He scored a lot of goals but other than that he was anonymous.

Fucking fat, overrated cunt.

**The Icon of Elisim** · 10-10-2005, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

Or is this simply "I have nothing logical to say and the attention isn't on me, so I'll just throw a random insult to up my post count"

lol, pot-kettle moment of the century

**mrslackalack** · 10-10-2005, 02:04 PM

Clinton Portis: His stats have gone down bad since he had been in Washington.

**VonErich Lives** · 10-10-2005, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

Whever people disagree with you, you call them a idiot or stupid. Look at your own posts.

No, when someone makes things up I never said I call them an idiot.

When people insult me rather then trying to discuss a point, I call them an idiot.

When YOU reply to a post that clearly wasn't directed at you with no information on the subject, I call YOU an idiot.

**The Outlaw** · 10-10-2005, 05:17 PM

Or when someone shoots you down with facts, you trash their teams. Always good to go that route.

10-10-2005, 05:24 PM

i agree on Clinton Portis.

How about Elton Brand and Abdur Rahim

**VonErich Lives** · 10-10-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Outlaw

Or when someone shoots you down with facts, you trash their teams. Always good to go that route.

Examples?

**YOUR Hero** · 10-10-2005, 08:52 PM

LMAO

RP · 10-10-2005, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

Examples?

Lets see... Pretty much anytime someone has criticism of the Red Sox or Pats.

**Kapoutman** · 10-10-2005, 11:34 PM

José Théodore. He had a good year when he won the Vezina, but he became worse by the year ever since. People here are still high on him because he goes on every talk show there is, womem think he's cute and casual fans say "Oh, I'm sure he will find his edge back this year". I have troubles finding someone with hockey knowledge who think he is good. He constantly chokes under pressure, he throws himself on the ice too fast, half the goals he allows are weak goals that most other goalies would have stopped by moving the stick, his mitten hand sucks and he lives off a reputation he acquired because of one good year. You could compare that to Jim Carrey, former Washington Capitals goaler. Finally, he is overpaid, and should be traded for something good before his reputation goes away.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-10-2005, 11:44 PM

I don't think Elton Brand is overrated. I always thought he was underrated.

**Crimson** · 10-11-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by el fregadero

No, Roy Williams is pracitcally the definition of overrated. I like him, but he isn't the best safety at anything.

I'll agree when you name a better run stuffer.

**YOUR Hero** · 10-11-2005, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapoutman

Jos� Th�odore. He had a good year when he won the Vezina, but he became worse by the year ever since. People here are still high on him because he goes on every talk show there is, womem think he's cute and casual fans say "Oh, I'm sure he will find his edge back this year". I have troubles finding someone with hockey knowledge who think he is good. He constantly chokes under pressure, he throws himself on the ice too fast, half the goals he allows are weak goals that most other goalies would have stopped by moving the stick, his mitten hand sucks and he lives off a reputation he acquired because of one good year. You could compare that to Jim Carrey, former Washington Capitals goaler. Finally, he is overpaid, and should be traded for something good before his reputation goes away.

Actually, it's more like he had one off year and you won't forgive him.

Year

Team

GP

GS

MIN

W

L

T

OTL

EGA

GA

GAA

SA

SV

SV%

SO

2001	MON	67	64	3864	30	24	10	9	136	2.11	1972	1836	.931	7
2002	MON	57	57	3419	20	31	6	6	165	2.90	1797	1632	.908	2
2003	MON	67	66	3961	33	28	5	3	150	2.27	1860	1710	.919	6

2001 - Vezina
2002 - off year
2003 - solid season

If it wasn't for the win/loss in his 'bad year' everything else stacks up very nice in 2002. And 2003... come on. those are solid, SOLID numbers.

**Kapoutman** · 10-11-2005, 01:35 AM

2003 are good numbers because he had a good team in front of him. He had Ribeiro, Ryder, Koivu and Zednik on attack to save his ass, while Markov, Sourray, Rivet and Bouillon were a solid defense. What makes me mad is that they say he's the kind of goalie that can make a team. False. Patrick Roy could carry a bad team on his back. Luongo seems like he can do it. Brodeur can do it. Theodore is the complete opposite. He either gets carried by his team or he crumbles, except for 2001.

I mean sure, the numbers are there, but when you watch each and every match he has, you quickly notice everything I said, notiably that the guy his always down and makes an habit out of allowing weak goals.

An example would be this season start. Canadiesn are 3-0. People around here say "WOW! Theodore will win us the cup this year!" Wrong. It's been all about the offense being able to score only one more goal than he can allow, and all of his goals in the last match have been really weak goal.

RP · 10-11-2005, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Crimson

I'll agree when you name a better run stuffer.

Marcus Stroud
John Henderson
Kris Jenkings
Corey Simon

I could go on as far as DLinemen. Safteys, I dunno. Probably none better.

RP · 10-11-2005, 01:52 AM

I'll add Champ Bailey to the list of overrated. Whens the last time he's shut down someone in a meaningful game?

RP · 10-11-2005, 01:54 AM

How bout Derek Jeter.

**darkpower** · 10-11-2005, 03:40 AM

I'm surprised that Randy Moss hasn't been mentioned yet.

I don't care WHAT kind of stats you have. You could be rushing for 200 yeards PER GAME for all I care.

If you are going to play for me, you BETTER be reliable in how your attitude about the game is. Walking off the field whenever you damn well please, being controversial for the sake of being controversial, having the biggest mouth out of anyone and running it too damn much. NO team should have to put up with someone who you don't know how many unsportsmanlike conduct flags you will be getting because of him, or if he is even going actually be a teammate.

Sorry, but I don't care what kind of stats Moss had. That wasn't the main reason why the Vikings didn't care less about him after 04 (I can't remember if they cut him loose or he became a free agent or whatever it was). They stopped caring the minute he became unreliable as part of the team.

10-07-2005, 03:30 PM	#42
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	Sergay Federov Randy Johnson ARod Kerry Wood Shockey Trent Green

10-07-2005, 04:03 PM	#44
Gertner Guest Posts: n/a	Warren Sapp, Rasheed Wallace

10-08-2005, 12:08 AM	#45
The Gooch Enlarged Member Posts: 2,070	David Beckham. C'mon, missing the net on a penalty kick can't happen in a big game. I think Becks is awesome and one of the best passers in soccer, but for all of that he still fucked up when English soccer fans needed him most.

10-08-2005, 01:21 AM	#47
Y2C Junior Member Posts: 24,997	Anybody from the ICC World XI

10-08-2005, 01:30 AM	#48
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Derek Lowe He did great for the Red Sox last year during the playoffs. During the regular season though he did not really do very well. Then LA went and signed him to a huge deal and he was exactly what he was in Boston the year before - an average pitcher.

10-08-2005, 01:31 AM	#49
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Shockey gets way too much coverage too IMO. He's good but the way he gets talked about you would think he is a first ballot hall of famer

10-08-2005, 12:29 PM	#53
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	You think the distraction of having a divorce and people question your character doesn't affect your job, your ability to do your job? I guess you'd never know, you know, since you have a dog and not a wife.

10-08-2005, 05:35 PM	#54
LK It's Clobbering Time! Posts: 5,337	Barry Ferguson - Looks decent when playing pish like Richie Hart and Darren Young in the SPL but his inability to take control of a game in Europe or on the international scene is always apparent.

10-08-2005, 06:20 PM	#55
OssMan The Classic Dylan Staples Posts: 51,524	Lets compare season stats so far among Shockey and other TE Jeremy Shockey G \| Rec Yards Y/R TD \| +----------+-----+-------------------------+ 4 \| 17 251 14.8 2 Antonio Gates b G \| Rec Yards Y/R TD \| +----------+-----+-------------------------+ \| 3 \| 18 280 15.6 1 \| Alge Crumpler G \| Rec Yards Y/R TD \| +----------+-----+-------------------------+ 4 \| 13 158 12.2 1 Tony Gonzalez G \| Rec Yards Y/R TD \| +----------+-----+-------------------------+ 4 \| 16 129 8.1 0 Todd Heap: G \| Rec Yards Y/R TD \| +----------+-----+-------------------------+ 3 \| 13 133 10.2 0 Jason Witten: G \| Rec Yards Y/R TD \| +----------+-----+-------------------------+ 4 \| 16 181 11.3 1 LJ Smith G \| Rec Yards Y/R TD \| +----------+-----+-------------------------+ 4 \| 26 265 10.2 2 Only Gates & Smith put up better numbers really.

10-09-2005, 01:59 AM	#56
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,993	VEL are you in first grade? You really do act like it sometimes.

10-10-2005, 12:59 AM	#58
el fregadero Tap-In Posts: 20,300	No, Roy Williams is pracitcally the definition of overrated. I like him, but he isn't the best safety at anything.

10-10-2005, 04:49 AM	#61
RBM RoggaN Posts: 9,551	Derek Jeter.

10-10-2005, 09:11 AM	#63
Rob Ban Fan Rt Hon Ed Balls MP Posts: 9,004	I was gonna say Frank Lampard too. Everyone creams their pants over him, calling him one of, if not the best midfielders in Europe. Its GAY. He scores a lot of goals, yes because he constantly shoots. Whenever he gets the ball and he's outside the box he has a dig and a lot of them get deflected in. But his passing is very limited and aside from hammering the ball, he doesn't do a lot else. Thats what fucked me off about him in Euro 2004 for England. He scored a lot of goals but other than that he was anonymous. Fucking fat, overrated cunt.

10-10-2005, 02:04 PM	#65
mrslackalack Mr. Slack A Lack Jack! Posts: 4,390	Clinton Portis: His stats have gone down bad since he had been in Washington.

10-10-2005, 05:17 PM	#67
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	Or when someone shoots you down with facts, you trash their teams. Always good to go that route.

10-10-2005, 05:24 PM	#68
Gertner Guest Posts: n/a	i agree on Clinton Portis. How about Elton Brand and Abdur Rahim

10-10-2005, 08:52 PM	#70
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	LMAO

10-10-2005, 11:34 PM	#72
Kapoutman Hockey Superstar Posts: 11,381	José Théodore. He had a good year when he won the Vezina, but he became worse by the year ever since. People here are still high on him because he goes on every talk show there is, womem think he's cute and casual fans say "Oh, I'm sure he will find his edge back this year". I have troubles finding someone with hockey knowledge who think he is good. He constantly chokes under pressure, he throws himself on the ice too fast, half the goals he allows are weak goals that most other goalies would have stopped by moving the stick, his mitten hand sucks and he lives off a reputation he acquired because of one good year. You could compare that to Jim Carrey, former Washington Capitals goaler. Finally, he is overpaid, and should be traded for something good before his reputation goes away.

10-10-2005, 11:44 PM	#73
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I don't think Elton Brand is overrated. I always thought he was underrated.

10-11-2005, 01:35 AM	#76
Kapoutman Hockey Superstar Posts: 11,381	2003 are good numbers because he had a good team in front of him. He had Ribeiro, Ryder, Koivu and Zednik on attack to save his ass, while Markov, Sourray, Rivet and Bouillon were a solid defense. What makes me mad is that they say he's the kind of goalie that can make a team. False. Patrick Roy could carry a bad team on his back. Luongo seems like he can do it. Brodeur can do it. Theodore is the complete opposite. He either gets carried by his team or he crumbles, except for 2001. I mean sure, the numbers are there, but when you watch each and every match he has, you quickly notice everything I said, notiably that the guy his always down and makes an habit out of allowing weak goals. An example would be this season start. Canadiesn are 3-0. People around here say "WOW! Theodore will win us the cup this year!" Wrong. It's been all about the offense being able to score only one more goal than he can allow, and all of his goals in the last match have been really weak goal.

10-11-2005, 01:52 AM	#78
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,993	I'll add Champ Bailey to the list of overrated. Whens the last time he's shut down someone in a meaningful game?

10-11-2005, 01:54 AM	#79
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,993	How bout Derek Jeter.

10-11-2005, 03:40 AM	#80
darkpower Why So Curious? Posts: 3,408	I'm surprised that Randy Moss hasn't been mentioned yet. I don't care WHAT kind of stats you have. You could be rushing for 200 yeards PER GAME for all I care. If you are going to play for me, you BETTER be reliable in how your attitude about the game is. Walking off the field whenever you damn well please, being controversial for the sake of being controversial, having the biggest mouth out of anyone and running it too damn much. NO team should have to put up with someone who you don't know how many unsportsmanlike conduct flags you will be getting because of him, or if he is even going actually be a teammate. Sorry, but I don't care what kind of stats Moss had. That wasn't the main reason why the Vikings didn't care less about him after 04 (I can't remember if they cut him loose or he became a free agent or whatever it was). They stopped caring the minute he became unreliable as part of the team.