Is it me, or are 99% of the heels in the WWE the "cowardly heel" type?

[Corkscrewed]

Well, they just screwed themselves by having him turn heel in the first place. That's where they went wrong.

[Destor]

Originally Posted by Corkscrewed Well, they just screwed themselves by having him turn heel in the first place. That's where they went wrong.

Yeah, probably right there. But they had to try it some time. It just didn't pan out well. I think its safe to assume that Austin getting tired of being baby and wanted a change, and on paper thats the biggest thing to happen in wrestling up to that point. "Austin turned heel? What? He joined up with McMahon? What?" It didn't pan out because he was already working heel and being booked face. That and maybe the pairing with McMahon was a bit to much much for the viewer. Asking the audience to believe that SCSA would put the past history between him and McMahon behind just for the title, after they had infested so much time and emotion into him, was a bit much.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Benoit was never a cowardly heel.
Kane never was, either was the Big Show.

Batista never was.

[Destor]

Not sure, but I think we are talking about now. Good examples if not.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Destor I think a lot of people liked him when he was cocky, and winning matches cleanly. And I think thats the problem. He wasn't getting enough heat, it was kind of mixed (mostly due to his female and fag fan-base.) Pairing him with daddy has made him more hate-able. Unfortunately I find myself wanting more from him as a heel, leaving me un-entertained, but the guy does get some of the best heat on SD!. Chicken-shit or not. *question* When writing SD! at the end of a sentence, do you follow it with a period?

Fixed your sentence.

Well, they played him up the middle most of the time. It's easier to get mixed reactions when you're a mixed wrestler. honestly, before he made me want to hate him. Now I'm just wanting him to like get herpes and see his face explode in the vaccuum of space because at least that would be entertaining.

Getting the most heat on Smackdown, which lacks many major heel players (Especially with the way Eddie's been going and the loss of Mister Charisma's piped in heat), not saying much. Especially against the Undertaker. that's like expecting someone to boo Austin for hitting a Stunner.

And I don't use a period, for the same reason you don't when you finish a quote with an exclamation point or question mark. However, since the show should be in quotes or underscored or somethign (Can't remember how you source a TV show in writing), not sure it makes a diff if we use improper grammar.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Destor Not sure, but I think we are talking about now. Good examples if not.

Yeah, I thought the reference to the present tense and only mentioning current folks would kind of indicate I was talking the current roster. Kane was a monster (Though pushed like shit...RAR! I"M UNSTOPPABLE FOR A WEEK!), but was often a de facto face to begin with. Show hasn't been heel in a long time, and Benoit hasn't been a heel in recent times either.

Booker it's hard to tell yet, since his actual turn has been so short lived officially. In case anyone brings him up. He's kinda like Helms, where he MIGHT be another strong heel, but it's too early to really tell. Cheating doesn't necessarily make you a coward...Look at Eddie (Before this last turn...)

And I still think there had to have been a better way to turn Austin. If not, they shouldn't have turned him.

[Kane Knight]

So I watched SD! tonight, and I'm still wondering how the Mexicools are heels. The WWE doesn't even bother to edit the pops they get.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

The mexicools aren't heels anymore as far as I know.


So let's see, Kurt Angle and HHH on Raw. What about Edge? Is he a coward, or more self-preserving. In a match, he doesn't act like a coward.

Randy Orton on Smackdown (Yeah, his dad helps him, but he's not really cowardly, just determined.)

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? The mexicools aren't heels anymore as far as I know. So let's see, Kurt Angle and HHH on Raw. What about Edge? Is he a coward, or more self-preserving. In a match, he doesn't act like a coward. Randy Orton on Smackdown (Yeah, his dad helps him, but he's not really cowardly, just determined.)

Angle and HHH have been mentioned not to be cowardly already. Edge is still a chickenshit heel, and Orton definitely is (He runs from viable threats even with his dad to back him up...That's not determined, that's bedwetting).

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight Angle and HHH have been mentioned not to be cowardly already. Edge is still a chickenshit heel, and Orton definitely is (He runs from viable threats even with his dad to back him up...That's not determined, that's bedwetting).

See, I think there's a difference between cowardly in the ring and cowardly outside the ring. 9 times out of 10, Orton and Edge are pretty determined and head on in the ring, as opposed to someone like Carlito who wrestles cowardly in his matches. Kerwin to.

So yeah, out of the ring, they may be cowardly, but not really in the ring.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? See, I think there's a difference between cowardly in the ring and cowardly outside the ring. 9 times out of 10, Orton and Edge are pretty determined and head on in the ring, as opposed to someone like Carlito who wrestles cowardly in his matches. Kerwin to. So yeah, out of the ring, they may be cowardly, but not really in the ring.

Orton backs down from legitimate threats in or out of the ring. Edge isn't exactly a fighting man's champ either.