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Old 12-12-2005, 07:06 PM   #1
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See, that's what I don't get.

Whine, bitch, moan. WWE sucks, fuck John Cena, blah blah fucking blah. New product comes along..OMG THEY FUCKING SUCK! Jesus, I know they have their errors, as does any promotion, let them grow before you try to set them on fire.:foc:
TNA is just an aborted clone of the WWE, which is why everyone thinks TNA sucks.

And yes, the six sided ring was a deformity.
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:22 PM   #2
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See, that's what I don't get.

Whine, bitch, moan. WWE sucks, fuck John Cena, blah blah fucking blah. New product comes along..OMG THEY FUCKING SUCK! Jesus, I know they have their errors, as does any promotion, let them grow before you try to set them on fire.:foc:
Don't be stupid.

It's one of the first rules of good posting. I. Thou Shalt Not Be Retarded.

Behold, for I have thy answer!

You see, You just complained about us complaining about TNA. Why? Not because you could defend its merits, but because it's competition. That's not just gay, not just retarded, that's fucking gaytarded. The notion that we should like TNA because it's analternative is a ginourmous slice of gaytardation, in the same ballpark as Sadistic.

A lot of these people were even praising TNA in threads made by me an PMF. And because we don't drop trou every time TNA does something, you try and call it a double standard.
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Old 12-13-2005, 12:59 AM   #3
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Don't be stupid.

It's one of the first rules of good posting. I. Thou Shalt Not Be Retarded.

Behold, for I have thy answer!

You see, You just complained about us complaining about TNA. Why? Not because you could defend its merits, but because it's competition. That's not just gay, not just retarded, that's fucking gaytarded. The notion that we should like TNA because it's analternative is a ginourmous slice of gaytardation, in the same ballpark as Sadistic.

A lot of these people were even praising TNA in threads made by me an PMF. And because we don't drop trou every time TNA does something, you try and call it a double standard.

lol anal. But yeah, I pretty much agree. I'm really trying to give TNA a second chance. I WANT them to succeed and I WANT to like them. There aspects of them I do indeed enjoy but the majority of it I just don't find entertaining, yet.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:12 AM   #4
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lol anal. But yeah, I pretty much agree. I'm really trying to give TNA a second chance. I WANT them to succeed and I WANT to like them. There aspects of them I do indeed enjoy but the majority of it I just don't find entertaining, yet.
I'm enjoying their product for the most part, but shit like this is really disheartening.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:14 AM   #5
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lol anal.
Don't knock it til you've tried it...

Ah. Who'mI kidding?
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:39 PM   #6
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Don't be stupid.

It's one of the first rules of good posting. I. Thou Shalt Not Be Retarded.

Behold, for I have thy answer!

You see, You just complained about us complaining about TNA. Why? Not because you could defend its merits, but because it's competition. That's not just gay, not just retarded, that's fucking gaytarded. The notion that we should like TNA because it's analternative is a ginourmous slice of gaytardation, in the same ballpark as Sadistic.

A lot of these people were even praising TNA in threads made by me an PMF. And because we don't drop trou every time TNA does something, you try and call it a double standard.
Yup...seriously, I didn't check this thread out and had no idea I was part of the conversation.

Anyhow, well stated KK.

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Old 12-12-2005, 09:01 PM   #7
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I'm not defending the six sided ring, I don't think it's that great. I'm just saying, you guys complain too damn much.
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And most TNA marks praise it too damn much.
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:23 PM   #9
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PMF, does mostly bash TNA though
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:34 PM   #10
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PMF, does mostly bash TNA though
And then he said it was improving, which indicates he's out to do more than bash it. Did you notice when he praised Impact, focusing on the positive aspects over the negative?
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Yes he you are right he did, but he still overeacts to every decision TNA makes as do most people though.
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Old 12-13-2005, 12:43 AM   #12
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You know, if they're trying to appeal to a larger group of people, become a viable TV promotion, and MOST people have problems with it, wouldn't that imply that they weren't "overreacting," that maybe they're onto something?
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No. I'm not saying they're improving. If anything, they tend to annoy me with useless guys like the Diamonds in the Rough. It's just frustrating to see people not even give the competition a chance. Don't even put me in the same fucking ballpark as Sadistic. I'm not praising dumb pieces of shit who set themselves on fire to get a reaction from 5 people, and I'm not trashing WWE at every turn in favor of CZW.

I'm simply stating that people complain too much about TNA. I've seen people whine and bitch about the pyro, production, and themes of TNA. It's like..what do you seriously fucking expect from a small organization?
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I'm simply stating that people complain too much about TNA. I've seen people whine and bitch about the pyro, production, and themes of TNA. It's like..what do you seriously fucking expect from a small organization?
Now, if you were smart, you'd realise we are asking this of a televised organisation. One which is expected not to look like crap. Presentation and production are important parts of wrestling. Waht, you think the Rock was number one because of his fantastic Sharpshooter? That Monty Brown's mat skills have him up there? That the theme music of a wrestler doesn't affect the tone of the crowd? That production quality doesn't matter in a "sport" that's so much about image?

What do we expect? We expect them to act like they're on TV, not wrestling in a backyard for the pleasure of Jeff Jarrett and Dusty Rhodes. We expect them to book like they want a TV spot, like they deserve a TV spot, like they care about their product. We exxpect them to not half-ass so many elements of their show. Pyro's expensive, but it's not hard to get DECENT theme music. You could actually get licensed songs form small-time artists cheap, or pay one of the thousands of people out there who compose this sort of shit for a living. Get your own James Johnston.

We expect the camera to look like it's NOT being held my Michael J Fox or a guy on a mechanicl bull. Most of these expectations are not that high for a televised promotion.

Maybe TNA just doesn't deserve its spot. Your argument seems to indicate it's not big enough to step up to the "big kids table."
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Don't act like you're in his ballpark.

When you graduate from that class, we'll invite you back to the long bus.
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They needed to give JJ a legit win before Christian, so they did it right. If Christian came in and took the Title right away, that would of been like the 4th Title change in 2 months or something.

But now that Sting is here, Christian may have to wait again
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:36 AM   #18
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isn't it going to be christian - JJ at the next PPV??

TNA is definitely improving - im quite enjoying the whole Raven storyline with signing his release. They just need to build up their storylines more than they have been doing. Which would probably be helped by having two hours every week rather than just the one. Just need to stop doing the gimmick matches all the time like Ultimate X and teach their wrestlers to sell a lot more.
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Wow. You think they book matches right?

What is it, to be accepted as a TNA fan you need to have a lobotomy.
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Wow. You think they book matches right?

What is it, to be accepted as a TNA fan you need to have a lobotomy.
They do or they have been. No one has been squashed recently not even Rhino.
TNA protects their big man. People who should win have been winning, and people who should lose have lost the right way.
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They do or they have been. No one has been squashed recently not even Rhino.
TNA protects their big man. People who should win have been winning, and people who should lose have lost the right way.
And yet, ammounting to no real build. That's still poor booking.
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--TNA will be taping 3 1/2 hours of television tomorrow night in Orlando. That will be Impact for 12/17 and 12/24 as well as a special New Year's Eve deal. The 12/31 show will air a few hours earlier than the normal 11 p.m. I think either 8 or 9 p.m. but we'll have it later. They will shoot a couple of angles on the show and come back after a UFC New Year's Eve special with a 30 minute show at midnight, featuring "the first wrestling match of 2006." They are doing a storyline where they can't contractually announce the big surprise and the debut of Sting until 2006, so the idea is they'll make the announcement right after midnight, and probably announce the next PPV main event at that point.
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You may be right. This thing with Sting could suck or it could be good. One of those things where you have to wait and see.

Also about the "big announcment" TNA is waitng until there midnight show on New year's eve to announce it officaly. Just wanted to inform everyone about that.
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You may be right. This thing with Sting could suck or it could be good. One of those things where you have to wait and see.

Also about the "big announcment" TNA is waitng until there midnight show on New year's eve to announce it officaly. Just wanted to inform everyone about that.
Too bad they advertised a major announcement at Turning Point...
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Also, if the matches are booked well, we should see some clear and strong faces and heels. Monty doens't look like a strong or clear heel. He looks strong, but he doesn't put across the heel concept well IMO.

Christian's a strong face, but he walked into the company that way.

Jarrett's getting X-Pac heat...

Sting'll get over as a face easily enough, but again, that's not through strength of booking...

...In fact, it looks like the people who get over do it despite the booking, not because of it.
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:42 PM   #27
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I would personally have Sting feud with someone else. Just throwing him in with Jarrett is terrible.

Abyss vs. Sting? Looks better than Jarrett.

I'd have Christian win the Title and thus start a lengthy feud with him and Monty Brown.
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I would personally have Sting feud with someone else. Just throwing him in with Jarrett is terrible.

Abyss vs. Sting? Looks better than Jarrett.

I'd have Christian win the Title and thus start a lengthy feud with him and Monty Brown.
Unfortunately, TNA doesn't seem to get the notion that someone can debut without going right for the title.
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Unfortunately, TNA doesn't seem to get the notion that someone can debut without going right for the title.
Exactly, and that's just absurd thinking on their part. With all the people they have booking the storylines, is there not ONE person that sits back and evaluates it all and says "we keep repeating the same shit week after week, month after month, and half of this shit doesn't even make sense?!"

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Exactly, and that's just absurd thinking on their part. With all the people they have booking the storylines, is there not ONE person that sits back and evaluates it all and says "we keep repeating the same shit week after week, month after month, and half of this shit doesn't even make sense?!"
Yeah, but he was fired.



Waht I'd like to see is Sting come in and gun for someone unexpected, but with a good reason. He's wrestled in TNA before and has wrestled in WCW for a LONG time. Surely they can pull off a reason that's not just "I want the belt!"

Or, at least not just "I show up and have a shot at your title!"

PEople SHOULD want the belt. Just every newbie getting a shot is so stupid and redone. If it hadn't beeen done so often, it'd make more sense...Sting is a BIG FUCKING DEAL. But if they intro him v the champion, it'll look stupid...Not because he's not big enough, but because every newbie can do it.

So...Hardy v Sting? Battle of the facepainted morons?

One sees JEsus, the other stares at his hands...
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