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Old 06-28-2006, 04:01 AM   #41
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I've been to a Washington St and an Oregon game. But I refuse to travel any further.

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Thats a bunch of bullshit. There was nothing wrong with Reddicks stamina. He did make tough layups and he did drive in traffic. I'm not sure where the hell you get your info, but i watched probably half of Dukes games ( Cause ESPN has a hardon for Duke ) and almost everything you say about Reddick is the exact opposite of what i saw from Reddick. I'm not sure how many games you watched, but i think you're talking out of your ass.
I watched all the same ESPN games you did. Why did JJ always score 3 times as many points in the first half?
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While Hinrich doesn't exactly carry the Bulls (he is listed as team captain though) he is a career 15 point a game scorer to go along with 6 and a half assists.

Plus he is way more athletic than Reddick is. While I think a lot of times NBA puts TOO much in athletic ability, it is still definetly a factor. You think a guy who is 6'4 and can barely dunk is gonna have enough explosion in order to defend a NBA guard?
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yeah exactly, if you are saying he is the next Ginobili or a Ginobili type player than obviously you are comparing the two.

Are you dumb? There's a big difference between say Reddick is like Ginobili and saying Reddick has Ginobili potential.

With your logic, if Dwayne Wade has Jordan potential, then he's compared to Jordan? I dont think so.

Go look up the word potential.
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He also has no position. How many 6'4" guys with no D, no athleticism, and no strength do you know that start at SG in the NBA? And he clearly doesn't have the ball-handling or passing skills to play the point. Bench is his final destination
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I watched all the same ESPN games you did. Why did JJ always score 3 times as many points in the first half?

I dunno, maybe cause teams went in at half time and made adjustments to try to stop him, which opened up his teamates, which made Duke a winning team.

It doesnt really matter when he scored his points, though i'd love to see these stats you speak of.
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Yeah the usual Duke fan (can't believe I forgot Duke basketball in that "One team you really hate post") reply about Reddick stats dropping later on in games is that either A.) the defense is now "paying more attention to him" (since you know, they didn't when the game started) B.) He is too tired from carrying the team earlier on or C.) he was at the lacrosse house last night
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He also has no position. How many 6'4" guys with no D, no athleticism, and no strength do you know that start at SG in the NBA? And he clearly doesn't have the ball-handling or passing skills to play the point. Bench is his final destination

He isnt the most athletic player, but he has athleticism. I dont know how you manage to judge his strenght. Please do explain that one to me. 6"4 is not a bad size for a SG with his range and shooting ability.
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Its got to be pretty hard to build your whole defensive game plan around stopping one guy on that team with all the talent they have.
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With your logic, if Dwayne Wade has Jordan potential, then he's compared to Jordan? I dont think so.
Yes, if you said he had Jordan potential than you would be saying that Wade has potential to become one of the top 10 players of all time, while playing a similar style.

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Go look up the word potential.
Potential has a different meaning if you put a guys name infront of it, other wise you wouldn't use another persons name, you'd just use potential.
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So if Redick has Ginobili-potential, that means you think he could one day become a Ginobili type player. So in his NBA career he is going to learn how to play defense, handle and drive the ball with his left hand, become a slasher, and acquire crazy passing skills? That's a pretty impressive turn a round.
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I'm honestly not a Reddick fan boi either. I just think he's alot better then given credit for.
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I was wrong though, JJ does have strength. The strength of a condor

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Also if you said Wade had Jordan potential it would also mean that Wade should become one of the most marketable athletes ever, if the potential panned out.
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Yes, if you said he had Jordan potential than you would be saying that Wade has potential to become one of the top 10 players of all time, while playing a similar style.


Potential has a different meaning if you put a guys name infront of it, other wise you wouldn't use another persons name, you'd just use potential.

Yah, but are you comparing Dwayne Wade to Jordan right now today. Is he anywhere near what Jordan was today? The answer is no. Does he have potential to be . Yes.
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And? It is a fair comparssion(although I don't think it is true) since they are very similar type of players.

Reddick and Ginobili are not similar players so I think you just made my point for me...
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I'm honestly not a Reddick fan boi either. I just think he's alot better then given credit for.
He is projected to make an NBA team and probably be the 8th or 9th man off the bench, that means that there is only about 260-270 better than you at basketball.

I don't think anyone is trying to say he is a terrible basketball player
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Also if you said Wade had Jordan potential it would also mean that Wade should become one of the most marketable athletes ever, if the potential panned out.

you're missing my point. Comparing a person to another person today. Is different then saying that person has the potential to be like said person. I do infact think he has that kind of potential.

Miz, your opinion is that he cant play defense, he cant pass, he cant make a tough layup. My opinion is the exact opposite based on what i've seen the past two years from him. So yes i do think he has that kind of potential. I do think he can be taught more and expand his game once he gets in the NBA to become that kind of player.
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Where are you reading these projections at?
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I'll concede this. I probably could have thought of someone other then Ginobili to compare his potential too. My point in the first place was that he is gunna be a good player.
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When i say Ginobili i mean type of player. Not exact skill sets. More like the impact of that type of player.
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That is my personal prediction about the 8th man off the bench, I've seen him going to Utah (lol another white guard) with the 19th pick. So obviously they think he is better than the 8th player off the bench but I dunno.

Anyone remember Trajan Langdon? Didn't think so

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That is my personal prediction about the 8th man off the bench, I've seen him going to Utah (lol another white guard) with the 19th pick. So obviously they think he is better than the 8th player off the bench but I dunno.

Anyone remember Trajan Langdon? Didn't think so

I'm pretty sure Utah will take any white player in the league. Did you hear that 3 way rumor of Boozer going to Philly, Iverson going to Boston, Szcerbiak going to Utah. What a joke.

But i'd say this. What was Gilbert Arenas, Boris Diaw and Josh Howard projected as.

Its all a matter of opinion. I know what Reddick i saw play last year and i disagree with Miz's assesment. Thats all.


I'm trying to figure if Indiana taking Quicny Dobey with the 17th pick is a stretch. Unless they trade the pick somehow, i'm thinking thats who they'll take.
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Anyone remember Trajan Langdon? Didn't think so
I do..but that's only cause that was the year there were like 4 Dookies going in the 1st round and he went like 15th and was a total bust...

because he was nothing more than a bomber.

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Old 06-28-2006, 05:03 AM   #66
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I'm pretty sure Utah will take any white player in the league. Did you hear that 3 way rumor of Boozer going to Philly, Iverson going to Boston, Szcerbiak going to Utah. What a joke.
I'll just point out its because Mormons (the vast majority of the Jizz fanbase) hate colored people.
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Old 06-28-2006, 05:12 AM   #67
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I do..but that's only cause that was the year there were like 4 Dookies going in the 1st round and he went like 15th and was a total bust...

because he was nothing more than a bomber.

Just in case RP tries to miss the point.

whats your point
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He also has no position. How many 6'4" guys with no D, no athleticism, and no strength do you know that start at SG in the NBA? And he clearly doesn't have the ball-handling or passing skills to play the point. Bench is his final destination
Steve Kerr had a pretty good career I'd think. He is 6-1 and a shooting guard.

I don't think Redick is expected to be a big time player in the NBA, but you are probably kidding yourself if you don't think he will have a fine career. He is a very competitive player and a very talented shooter. I wouldn't be surprised if he went down as a Steve Kerr at the end of his career, and that would be nothing to scoff at in the NBA.
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Old 06-28-2006, 07:17 PM   #69
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Celts trade #7 overall pick for Sebastian Telfair.
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Maybe Boston traded the pick because they no longer need it to draft a PG, because they will soon be getting Allen Iverson. Also, what are the Blazers going to do with 2 top 7 picks. HMMMM
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Really? I kind of like that trade for the Celtics. Telfair never seemed to fit in on the West coast, specifically in Portland. The only thing is that there should still be a top player left, maybe Gay, at No. 7.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was the start of another Portland trade, giving up the No. 4 and No. 7 for a higher spot in the draft or else some player. Don't know who that'd be though...Mark Blount????
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Doubt Gay will be available at 7. I think most project him as a top 3 or 4

Maybe they'll draft JJ Redick with the #4 pick and the rights to his poetry at #7

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This is unconfirmed but several sources are reporting that the deal is actually

Celtics get:
Sebastian Telfair
Theo Ratliff

Blazers get:
#7 pick
Raef LaFrentz
Dan Dickau (lol this poor fucking guy gets traded every month)

thinking more about this though, with all the KG rumors, 2 top 7 picks would be a nice start to acquiring him
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wow my friend who would probably suck Telfair's dick if he saw him in the street most likely exploded when he heard that trade
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Old 06-28-2006, 07:47 PM   #75
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Paul Pierce, No. 4, No. 7 for KG?

I don't think it's going to happen, but that's a hell of a lot better than No. 2, Ben Gordon and Tyson Chandler. I still wouldn't do either, unless another decent player was involved.
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Old 06-28-2006, 07:50 PM   #76
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There's no way you'd get a better offer than Pierce and 2 lottery picks
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I don't think Boston has any plans of trading Pierce though, and it really wouldn't make sense for the Wolves to trade away their team for draft picks and an all-star. There'd be no point of having Pierce around getting stats for a bad team, although that's basically what he's doing now.
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WTF, this is the most fucked up draft ever. I just got home and there has been like 10 trades.

What I don't get, Brandon Roy for Randy Foye straight up? Is somebody retarded and named Kevin McHale? Trade No. 6 for No. 7 straight up? Come on.
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