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Old 06-30-2006, 06:28 PM   #41
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There is no comparison. UFC is in a league of it's own right now in terms of an entertaining product. A big reason why they are taking a lot of wrestling fans now is because UFC is similar to what pro wrestling should have evoled into in this day and WWE is nothing close. There is room for both to be sucessful but one has respect for it's audience and the other never has and never will.
Not to mention one has the respect of its audience.

A lot of people watching wrestling these days do it out of habit, or because they're stupid enough to think that a real fan watches really bad programming. Or they want to "support" the program, see also stupidity.
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:38 PM   #42
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Why should have WWE evolved into attempting to be a leigitmate sport. Any possibility of that went out the window 20 years ago. I really like BDC's analogy.
They should have strayed away from the campier shit and got more legit. They started to do so by introducing MMA fighters. They started to change direction, and then Vince stopped taking his medicine.
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Old 06-30-2006, 11:54 PM   #43
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They should have strayed away from the campier shit and got more legit. They started to do so by introducing MMA fighters. They started to change direction, and then Vince stopped taking his medicine.
That is a fair assessment, but I honestly think that it is impossible for WWE to ever be considered a"legitimate sport" by the masses.
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Old 07-01-2006, 08:29 AM   #44
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Why should have WWE evolved into attempting to be a leigitmate sport. Any possibility of that went out the window 20 years ago. I really like BDC's analogy.
I didn't mean becoming a legit sport. I meant WWE wrestling style should have looked more like MMA fights with submissions and suplexs/throws. Nothing wrong with say Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit or Taz kinda styles and you can still have light weight stuff and top rope moves but in this day, nobody wants the camp shit and nobody believes certain moves in matches.

Personally, I think that the top 20 pushed guys in WWE should all have a submission and pin finish (not a sleeper either). This would get over more submission moves and would stop the predictability of matches. I'm sick to death of watching a 15 minute match and waiting for a finisher. They need to go back to using small packages and sunset flip pins and stuff.
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Also, WWE prided itself in the late 90's/early 00's with being in touch with their key demographics. They know absolutely nothing about current teenage culture today. They don't know what is cool and what's not and worse still, they have a bunch of over 40 year old men trying to tell the fans what is cool. I'm 25 years old and I barely know what's cool these days so how they hell can they know?
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Old 07-01-2006, 10:18 AM   #46
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Also, WWE prided itself in the late 90's/early 00's with being in touch with their key demographics. They know absolutely nothing about current teenage culture today. They don't know what is cool and what's not and worse still, they have a bunch of over 40 year old men trying to tell the fans what is cool. I'm 25 years old and I barely know what's cool these days so how they hell can they know?
The problem is Vince and company have gone all PT Barnum and decided that they are trendsetters because of their previous success. It's a shame the anti-hero character in wrestling was only 20 years behind Wolverine, More'n a decade behind the Punisher, and behind even The Crow, or Vince might've actually been a pioneer in the anti-establishment field.

The problem is that they now think, this is what will sell, and this is what we're gonna give you, and it's not our fault if you're too stupid to like what you should.

The only difference being Barnum was a genius, and Vince thinks his ass is ratings.
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The problem is that they now think, this is what will sell, and this is what we're gonna give you, and it's not our fault if you're too stupid to like what you should.
That's EXACTLY how it's like.
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Old 07-02-2006, 12:27 PM   #49
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BTW, people can ask why you would compare the two, or why they would compete, but JR and King have made several allusions to UFC/MMA recently, and it's becoming very obvious that whatever you think, WWE sees them as competition or something very similar.
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Old 07-02-2006, 01:07 PM   #50
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Old 07-02-2006, 04:49 PM   #51
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Unless Tyson hit Chuck with a right hook clean on the jaw in the opening 10 seconds, Chuck would win this in less than 2 minutes.

And it would never happen because Tyson wouldn't make 205lbs. Replace Chuck with Andrei Arlovski and I say it ends quicker.
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Old 07-02-2006, 09:23 PM   #52
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Tyson's a shell of himself. At least pick a fighter in his prime...

...Like John "The Street Fighter" Cena.
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Chuck Liddel is unstoppable, Cena finds ways to win.

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1st round: Tito takes him down, dominated with ground n pound

2nd round: More of the same, ground n pound, couple takedowns and jabs to Cena

3rd round: Tito comes in, FU, STFU, Ortiz taps
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