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Old 12-10-2006, 01:31 PM   #41
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BTW if someone was going to run with this angle and make something out of Nick Dinsmore, why would you put fucking Val Venis in there? Use someone who is even half over.
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Old 12-10-2006, 02:49 PM   #42
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Yeah, I hate to say it but WWE fucked up Val Venis. He's a jobber for life.
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:09 PM   #43
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I remember when the WWE first began the Eugene gimmick, and after coming under fire from advocate groups for the mentally retarded, they justified themselves by saying that Eugene can serve as an inspirational role model for the mentally retarded.

What can they say now?
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:21 PM   #44
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:36 PM   #45
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He's clearly an inspirational role model for mentally retarded ASSHOLES
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Old 12-10-2006, 07:09 PM   #46
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Also any angle that involves Val Venis/Eugene and an eventual name change to Nick Dinsmore that sees Nick become the same bland wrestler that Gunner Scott was (which is a very good wrestler but one that won't pull ratings) will NOT be bought by the WWE fans.
What the fuck does Gunner Scott have to do with this? That was a pseudonym, Nick Dinsmore is the guy's real name. It's not the same thing.

Where has anyone said use him as a bland wrestler? You would put him in a feud with someone like Chris Benoit on SmackDown!, or maybe give him the Intercontinental Championship on RAW. Brent Albright was not used right, Nick Dinsmore hopefully would be. That's where the different lies.

I suppose people would care about a character named "Eugene" rather than the much more marketable name of "Nick Dinsmore", though.

"Yeah, I know! Let's call Kevin Nash, "Diesel"! That'd get people to care about him!"

The whole point of giving Val Venis promo time, and having him work an actual wrestling match with Eugene, with some hard chair shots, etc. would be to get the guy over as well. It's a hard concept to understand, but two men can benefit from a feud. Like my admiration for the guy, or not, Venis is one of the better workers on the roster, and if you want a fucking retard to get over, Venis working his ass off is the best way to do it. If you want to get the retard off TV, why not have a guy that can get something from it do it? Oh wait, let's let John Cena retire the character, or DX, because they all need it more.

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Old 12-10-2006, 08:23 PM   #47
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Yeah, people justify Cena and Kane, yet Nick Dinsmore somehow wouldn't work if done properly. *shrug*
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Old 12-11-2006, 12:41 PM   #49
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Think they need to give him more than 5/8 minutes per week to get this angry-retard thing over. They need to use the majority of the backstage skits of a show of Dinsmore going around doing crazy angry shit.

He could try to put something in the bin, miss, and angrily rant at the bin shouting 'im special' before rock-bottoming it.

He could bump in to Maria, ask her out and she says 'No Eugene, you are a good friend', before Eugene beats her down shouting 'im special'. He could reintroduce the bin here as a weapon.

In a room with some heavy lighting, he could spot his shadow, and angrily accuse it of following him. He could kick the wall and break a hole in it revealing Val Venis knocking one out. Val could then accuse him of embarrassing him and it leads to a match in which Eugene destroys Val with a chair. (thats how you get Val some mini-screen time)

Sadly, I don't think any of the above will happen. And Nick will be back to his happy-retard self teaming with Duggan on Heat sometime in the next 2 months.
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:04 PM   #50
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Using the bin more than once would create a pattern. Creative would catch on and would paint a face on the thing and have Eugene carry it with him everywhere. Then WWESHOP would sell an inflatable Binny for $39.95
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:23 PM   #51
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Using the bin more than once would create a pattern. Creative would catch on and would paint a face on the thing and have Eugene carry it with him everywhere. Then WWESHOP would sell an inflatable Binny for $39.95
I'd be worried if he continued using it, he'd get a 'Eugene The Dumpster Dismore' edge to him.
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:37 PM   #52
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I don't think they'll ever drop the gimmack unless they release him. By him denouncing the gimmick would be a slap in the face to the writers and Vince for going through with it.
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You know, the repeated use of said bin would actually make sense. It could be a weapon that Eugene grows a fondness for and uses it in matches thereafter. Sans the face-painting "Binny" crap.

Oh, and didn't they denounce the Beaver Cleavage gimmick and have Chaz "shoot" and say that wasn't really him? Except in Nick/Eugene's case, it woudl make sense and be entertaining.
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:20 PM   #54
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It'd be harder to denounce Eugene since they say he's Eric Bischoff's nephew. At least I think it would be harder to denounce. Maybe not.
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:45 PM   #55
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I admire that they've been able to do a heel turn without resorting to the oft-suggested 'have him say he was faking it' thing.
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When I heard his music play, I was like "Fuck yes! He's going to shoot on the WWE, and how their stupid-ass gimmick drove him to drug-use, and now he's going to join ECW and provide us with some good wrestling!".
Yeah, good luck seeing him again after that.
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I don't think they'll ever drop the gimmack unless they release him. By him denouncing the gimmick would be a slap in the face to the writers and Vince for going through with it.
Slapping them in the face would be a bad thing?
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Old 12-12-2006, 05:05 PM   #58
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I think for the heel turn to be complete, they need to tag Eugene with Big Vis. After winning a match, Eugene grabs the mic and declares that they "ARE SPECIAL!" and "are gonna get some bitches!"

Later, Vis goes into the dressing room carrying champagne, only to walk in on Eugene deflowering Chloe. "She thinks I'm Special!"

The look of disgust on Vis's face quickly turns into an evil smile and he slowly closes the dressing room door...but not before Simmons walks by, looks in..."DAMN!"




Yeah, I know...but therapy ain't cheap nowadays!
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:32 PM   #59
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Naw, if I were Russo I'd have replaced Chloe with David Arquette.
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I loved the new 'invisible man' gimmick they gave Eugene this week.
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This was how I thought they should've turned Eugene a year and a half ago

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If you want to turn him just make him less of a lovable retard and more of a hatable retard.

Imagine if after he returns from injury he brings a lawyer with him who threatens to sue Raw if Eugene isn't given special treatment because of his special status. He gets to wrestle his opponents in unfair circumstances, he gets choice title matches, he can attack people without repercussions, etc.

He'd still be retarded (the comical part being more or less gone) and we'd be reminded about it week in week out and constantly boo him cause he's being an asshole about it and getting away with it.
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I remember your post. It was a good idea, and still is. If they brought in the lawyer next week, it'd be perfect timing and might explain his absence this week.
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I remember your post. It was a good idea, and still is. If they brought in the lawyer next week, it'd be perfect timing and might explain his absence this week.
I agree, good idea....which sadly guarantee's we won't see it happen.

I would love to see Bischoff brought back again to start a Retard World Order. "My Uncle Eric says that Angry Retards = Controversy! We have 10 words for ya...'We're Droolin All Over!"

RWO! RWO!! RWO!!!
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Followed by a severely botched RKO and bunny-ear signs instead of the Wolfpac signs.

They then decide to steal the DX taunt but alter it so that the arms cross at the chest. Watch. Try and do it across the chest instead of the crotch. Get it?
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No, you'd have her win the World Title in a Kibbles-N-Bits on a Pole tag match.
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Followed by a severely botched RKO and bunny-ear signs instead of the Wolfpac signs.

They then decide to steal the DX taunt but alter it so that the arms cross at the chest. Watch. Try and do it across the chest instead of the crotch. Get it?


That's awesome! Their intro music could be a combination of Porn & The Special Olympics theme.

"S-S-S-Special For L-L-L-Life!"
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No, you'd have her win the World Title in a Kibbles-N-Bits on a Pole tag match.
:O I was referring to Arnold's Russo post....forgot to quote.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:05 PM   #69
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No, you'd have her win the World Title in a Kibbles-N-Bits on a Pole tag match.
"BAW GAWD, THAT BITCH JUST BEAT CENA!!"
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:27 PM   #70
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"BAW GAWD, THAT VIS JUST ATE CENA!! HERES SOME BAH GAWD BBQ SAUCE, WHICH THAT DAMN SNEAKY BASTARD RING AINT MADE OF!!"
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"BAW GAWD, THAT BITCH JUST BEAT CENA AND IS WHIPPING HIM DOWN LIKE A BAH GAWD GOVERNMENT........................................!!"

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