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Old 01-30-2007, 02:03 PM   #41
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Raw vs HHH for the Title, Last Man Standing Match vs HHH, WM20 Main Event, Survivor Series 04, Raw vs Shelton, WM22 vs Angle, he carried Hogan to a good match at SummerSlam and Vince to a good match at WM.

there...thats more than '2' matches
What did Michaels do at Survivor Series '04, or am I missing something?
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:42 PM   #42
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What did Michaels do at Survivor Series '04, or am I missing something?
I think it was 04...he teamed with the Dudleys and booker I think...he was the last remaining guy on his team...put on a helluva show that match even though he lost when batista powerbombed him and Orton took the victory
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:45 PM   #43
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Michaels has the ability to steal the show and usually does everytime he goes out there. Benoit doesn't.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:48 PM   #44
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I think it was 04...he teamed with the Dudleys and booker I think...he was the last remaining guy on his team...put on a helluva show that match even though he lost when batista powerbombed him and Orton took the victory
Oh, okay; that was '03. Not the biggest of deals, but I couldn't just assume.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:22 PM   #45
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Afterall, he chose to keep HBK but lose Bret. (Although in hindsight that wasn't the best move given HBK was done less than 6 months later) It boils down to money. Vince saw Shawn as the most marketable talent he had for those years and would do anything to keep him.
I guess thats the point. People are suggesting a bunch of reasons here as towhy HBK could get away with so much shit that others couldn't, but why did Vince see shawnasthe most marketable talent at that time.

I may be bias, but I think Bret was equally as marketable.


I'm curious though. When did shawn really start being a dick?
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:26 PM   #46
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As far as I know he was as long as hes been a singles star. I don't know much about his Rockers days, but I've known of problems with him dating all the way back to 94.

Vince chose Shawn because he was more versatile with his character at the time, and wasn't afraid to cross boundaries. He would play heel or face, do the DX thing, and was a bit more charismatic. Bret and Shawn could both go in the ring, but Bret really wasn't as comfortable with things and was a little less versatile about what he would and wouldn't do.
Plus the money issue and what not.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:31 PM   #47
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Just because certain wrestlers only use a certain amount of offensive moves doesn't mean they suck or are.

I would just like to point that out.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:43 PM   #48
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Yeah HBK is probably the best guy in the ring.
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Bret Hart is one of, if not the greatest pro wrestlers of all time. He's amazing.
However, Shawn is the single best performer I have ever watched. If I had to list the best 20 WWF/E matches of all time, he'd be in at least 10 or 12 of them.

It's so hard to pick between two guys like that.
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I'd also like to point out no matter how many offensive moves legend does he will still suck
I hope nervous ferret reads this
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I'd also like to point out no matter how many offensive moves legend does he will still suck
I hope nervous ferret reads this
That is also true.He probably will cause he is a homolike you
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:41 AM   #52
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I bet you guys weren't expecting me to post in this thread except for legend who has a tiny cock and a girly coice. He also has a girly voice. I have no clue what a coice is.
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Shawn was just better at sucking dick than everyone else.

Bret hart > shawn "lost my smile cry baby" micheals
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It all comes down to the fact that since the early times of Shawn Michaels, Vince has become a billionaire. He has absolutely no fear whatsoever anymore. He knows that the WWE is (more or less) a complete monopoly of the professional wrestling industry. Whoever the company loses now will not hurt them seemingly at all anymore. This has been proved numerous times over the years with Hall, Nash, Steiner, Christian, and even Angle. He's had main eventers come and go as they please and he's shipped just as many out with the infamous "You're fired". He knows it's going to take alot of fire to get him into hot water again.

In the time of Michaels... HBK was really all they had at the time in terms of established stars. Especially after Bret left. If I were running the company, maybe I'd let alot of shit slide too.
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Shawn was just better at sucking dick than everyone else.

Bret hart > shawn "lost my smile cry baby" micheals
LMAO! Michaels is the cry baby when compared to Bret Hart??? My opinion of Hart being overhyped aside, he is unquestionably one of the best wrestlers ever. Having said that, he bitches/whines/moans/complains more in a 20 minute span than the entire cancer ward at your local hospital combined.
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