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Old 02-17-2007, 07:01 PM   #41
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The only thing I can think of is they want to put the straps on Deuce and Domino, maybe leading to a Kendrick vs London feud in time for a match between them at WrestleMania. Wishful thinking, perhaps, and I haven't been impressed much by D & D
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:02 PM   #42
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They used it to play into a storyline tho, and to make Big Shows title win a suprise. Sure, maybe it was deceptive. But it made for a great twist for people, and since it was pre-planned and worked into a storyline, I wouldn't blame them for it. Much better than announcing that Big Show would just take his place.
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:09 PM   #43
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It wasn't a great twist, it was a farce. WWE was in a total mess, because Vince Russo, Ed Ferrara and Terry Taylor had all left them in short succession. That was basically the entire creative team, and all of their directions and plans were suddenly rendered void. That PPV was one of the worst of all time, and the sight of the Big Show (who had been embroiled in a lower midcard feud with the Big Bossman) holding the WWE title at the end just made it even worse.

Imagine if Shawn Michaels is yanked off the card during the PPV, and WrestleMania inexplicably ends with Chris Masters wearing the WWE title. Sure, nobody saw it coming. Sure, it was a twist. But it's still a slap in the face of the PPV buying customer.
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:13 PM   #44
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To be fair, Big Show was still a big player despite his midcard fued.
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Imagine if Shawn Michaels is yanked off the card during the PPV, and WrestleMania inexplicably ends with Chris Masters wearing the WWE title.

Stop giving them ideas...
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I didn't like that the ladder match was called off, but atleast they did it with time to spare before the ppv. I hate the bait-and-switch on pay per views. That really bugs me.
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:17 PM   #47
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Undertaker vs Triple H was supposed to be switched weeks before Wrestlemania17 to be Triple H vs Shawn Michaels wasn't it? And then Shawn passed out?
I remember hearing that.
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Undertaker vs Triple H was supposed to be switched weeks before Wrestlemania17 to be Triple H vs Shawn Michaels wasn't it? And then Shawn passed out?
I remember hearing that.
Nah the plan was Triple H vs Shawn Michaels, but Michaels was suspended for "personal issues", so they then decided to go with Triple H vs The Undertaker.

If I remember correctly though, the long standing plan for WrestleMania 17 was always for Triple H to wrestle a celebrity (think they entered negotiations with a big name footballer but I don't know who, being a Brit and all). Trips was apparently desperate to prove that he was such a good worker, he can carry a non-worker to a WrestleMania calibre match. You know what, back then I think he could have pulled it off too!
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:56 PM   #49
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C'mon, guys. NOTHING makes sense in the WWE these days.
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Old 02-17-2007, 08:04 PM   #50
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Not true. Somethings make total sense, which makes the totally utterly fucked up stuff even more unbearable.
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:14 PM   #51
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Yeah, this is a pretty stupid move by the WWE. Another Ladder Match could have gotten London & Kendrick over as the tag team the WWE needs to make the belts mean something.

Wishful thinking is that we will get the Ladder Match at WrestleMania, maybe with The World's Greatest Tag Team involved, but I doubt the WWE is that smart.

The Six-Man Tag Team Match will be solid, no doubt about it, and it will likely set up Chris Benoit vs. MVP for the US Title, but they really should have planned things better. Why not just have Benoit vs. Porter on the card, and have the scheduled Ladder Match? Deuce N' Domino can work a match on Heat and continue their winning streak before they actually challenge for the Tag Titles. Maybe have The Highlanders face them in an interpromotional match?

The only way I will not cry bloody murder over this is if London & Kendrick are involved in a Ladder Match of sorts at WrestleMania.
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Old 02-18-2007, 12:18 AM   #52
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The lads don't need a ladder to have a good match anyway. Why go sparko if they aren't involved in a match with a stepladder gimmick at WrestleMania? Unless they go for a tag team Money In The Bank, you know that ain't happening.

Most likely scenario right now, the way I see it, is a London vs Kendrick match at WrestleMania, which given time could be a very good opening match for the card. Chins up.
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I think I'd rather see two good wrestling matches and Chris Benoit on the card than another 8-man ladder spot fest. Save it for Mania.
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Old 02-18-2007, 03:20 AM   #54
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So. . .what? Carl are you suggesting that they just totally fuck the Tag Team Titles even more by having them fight against each other at Wrestlemania?

I guess we just don't need any sort of tag team wrestling at all, ever again.

I maintain that they should have saved any sort of HUGE ladder match for WM, then gone balls out, shit to the wall, with Kendrick and London totally going STRAIGHT over MNM and the Hardy's maybe WGTT too. Then we've avoided the last four or five months of "The Hardy's are back together OMG one night only"
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:56 AM   #56
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So. . .what? Carl are you suggesting that they just totally fuck the Tag Team Titles even more by having them fight against each other at Wrestlemania?
No, I'm not suggesting it, I'm offering it as a possible scenario, and even then only in the event that Deuce N' Domino take the titles first.

Anyway... the World tag team champions will be facing each other at WM, why not the WWE tags?
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Old 02-18-2007, 01:04 PM   #59
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Old 02-18-2007, 01:05 PM   #60
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I doubt they are going to still have those belts come time for the PPV...
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The lads don't need a ladder to have a good match anyway. Why go sparko if they aren't involved in a match with a stepladder gimmick at WrestleMania? Unless they go for a tag team Money In The Bank, you know that ain't happening.

Most likely scenario right now, the way I see it, is a London vs Kendrick match at WrestleMania, which given time could be a very good opening match for the card. Chins up.
Paul London vs. Brian Kendrick would indeed be a nice little match. I doubt the WWE would give them time, though. Another match London & Kendrick could be amazing in is a WWE Tag Team Champions vs. World Tag Team Champions Match against The World's Greatest Tag Team. I just have the visual of Shelton Benjamin springboarding in, only to get caught by a Double Superkick from the WWE Tag Team Champions.

Once again, though, I doubt the WWE is dedicated enough to their little guys to make this happen.
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No, I'm not suggesting it, I'm offering it as a possible scenario, and even then only in the event that Deuce N' Domino take the titles first.

Anyway... the World tag team champions will be facing each other at WM, why not the WWE tags?
Because that's making a bad situation even worse just for the sake that it's a lost cause.

Man, I just said the Tag Team division is a lost cause. It's good to finally accept that vocally.
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I think the match was cancelled cause they needed an extra match for the PPV.
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I still wonder why they didn't just do Matt Hardy vs. Joe Mercury, maybe even a gimmick match. I think it's built up enough. Then you can make the Benoit vs. MVP for the title and start that early. That's two extra matches without actually bringing any Raw people in. Then Kennedy in at a rematch for the US Title at Wrestlemania.
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Yeah exactly, personal rivlaries should bring stipulation matches, Mercury never even got a chance to get proper revenge. Maybe they'll do that at WM in a singles match?? Infact, that maybe it.
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I can only hope. . .since that makes sense. Mercury and Hardy can put together a good match on Smackdown, so if they got any time at WM then it'd be golden.
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Shit, it makes too much sense, forget it then.
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I can't expect WWE to use common sense, the most likely thing is they just needed an extra match for the PPV and don't give a shit about the Mercury/Hardy feud anymore.
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I still wonder why they didn't just do Matt Hardy vs. Joe Mercury, maybe even a gimmick match. I think it's built up enough. Then you can make the Benoit vs. MVP for the title and start that early. That's two extra matches without actually bringing any Raw people in. Then Kennedy in at a rematch for the US Title at Wrestlemania.
I was expecting Matt Hardy vs. Joey Mercury in a match where ladders were legal to be added to the No Way Out card during the build-up, but then they confirmed the Ladder Match. If I was booking, London & Kendrick would have feuded with Deuce N' Domino, defeated them, and Hardy would have beaten Mercury via DQ when Mercury used a chair. This sets up TLC between London & Kendrick, The Hardys and MNM for WrestleMania.
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^ There's already MITB for WM though, wouldn't make sense having two ladder matches on the card. I hope they do something with this Mercury/Matt feud at WM otherwise it just seems to be a waste.What stipulation should they use? I'm struggling to think of one. I keep thinking of cage but then thats been done already with Jeff&Nitros match.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:41 PM   #71
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Umm... Punjabi Prison Match?

Seriously, how's abouts Last Man Standing?
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:52 PM   #72
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Last Man Standing would be fitting, but i can't see the WWE giving it to two midcarders.
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Unfortunately, I don't see two mid-carders making the card. Matt Hardy will likely be in the Money in the Bank Ladder Match. If MVP can secure a US Title shot, I can see Joey Mercury being in there, as well. If not, it might be pre-show Battle Royal for him.

I think they may do the Ladder Match on Saturday Night's Main Event. They usually like one car-crash match for the show, and the WWE Tag Team Championship Ladder Match could be it. Then at WrestleMania do WWE Tag Team Champions vs. World Tag Team Champions.
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