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Old 03-25-2007, 02:03 PM   #41
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I have always been a big Batista fan, but he could do with a full-on heel turn if you ask me. His face promos haven't been interesting for a long time (maybe not entirely his fault), and he needs something to freshen him up.

His popularity pre WM21 was much like RVD's popularity in the alliance, in that they were pretty much faces in heel stables. RVD could've used the kind of angle and push Batista got, only with Austin instead of HHH. I guess both of these are examples of WWE's long-term booking being awful, since neither man was handled well afterwards.
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Old 03-25-2007, 04:17 PM   #42
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He can do a spinebuster too.
spinebuster. that's what i meant. not sidewalk slam
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:04 PM   #43
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:05 PM   #44
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Dude, what the fuck? Why is everything politics with you? I understand basic Engrish, and I know what every word means in Raining Blood, but that does mean Raining Blood as a song means that much more than a Warrior promo, either of which I can listen to hours on end.
It's not politics. Sorry, mate, but you spend all this time acting like you're fucking stupid, and I know you're not. Hence, asking if this was some sort of "red state" gimmick.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:10 PM   #45
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Batista

- can cut a desent promo.

- absolutely terrible in the ring.

- moveset consists of three moves:
* clothesline
* spinebuster
* batistabomb
He can be very solid in the ring. His Spinebuster and Batista Bomb used to be two of the most powerful looking moves in WWE. Not that it takes a lot, when the choice of finishers for new guys is "the ropes" (For heels) and "handshake" (for faces), but still.

And promos aside, he has great charisma. You don't work that "poorly" in the ring and get that kind of reaction consistently for no reason.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:15 PM   #46
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My thoughts on Batista? He is a draw and should be pushed accordingly.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:19 PM   #47
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It's not politics. Sorry, mate, but you spend all this time acting like you're fucking stupid, and I know you're not. Hence, asking if this was some sort of "red state" gimmick.
Sorry to everyone that I'm about to go off topic, but "red state" reffers to a republican state. Republicans are a politcal party. Hence it is politics. If you wanted to call me dumb, then call me dumb. If you want to say the midwest is a bunch of retards and hicks, say that. We all know you hate conservatives, and therefore hate republicans as well. Every other word out of you is neo-con this, red-state that. If you don't want to look like you drag politics into every discussion, the simple answer is don't drag it in. There are plenty of other ways to insult someone than saying, "You voted for George Bush." Now if this thread was discussing Glen Jacobs as being libertrian or JBL's recent comments on a news magazine show on MSNBC or whatever, it would be complete fine and expected, but this was a comment about Slayer, Batista and the Ulimtate Warrior. There is no reason for you to bring up red-states. You act like you're fucking smart, start being smart and realize that politics and red states and neo cons are only a small part of life.

Now, to get back on topic, yes Dancin' Dave sucks.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:22 PM   #48
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Well if Vince is unsure about pushing Botchtista then maybe the push will go to someone more deserving. I wouldn't go as far as to compare him to the Ultimate Douchebag, but I do think he's there to just cash in and ride the wave. Michael Hayes and Dusty are partially right, Batista is marketable look-wise. As far as everything else goes though, I'd say he's pretty much the 21st Century Lex LUger.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:23 PM   #49
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Except people will pay money to see him. And that is a HUGE difference.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:28 PM   #50
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Sorry to everyone that I'm about to go off topic, but "red state" reffers to a republican state.
I know you're playing the "I don't get it" card again, BDC, but "red state" comes up a lot more than specifically politics these days. I get it. Simple, retarded, is endearing. Therefore, you are playing the most endearing person on the board with your constant "I'm so simple I barely understand the words I type" card.

But seriously. Shut the fuck up. Stop pretending.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:30 PM   #51
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Do you think anyones buys your bullshit KK?
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:30 PM   #52
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Hoping for a "no."
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:31 PM   #53
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Except people will pay money to see him. And that is a HUGE difference.
And despite the animosity he gets from smarks and possibly the backstage boys, he consistantly draws a positive reaction.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:31 PM   #54
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dude, stop taking every topic and turning it around in a completely different direction for whatever reason. Also, stop tossing out ad hominem to enhance what you're saying. It doesn't really help.
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And despite the animosity he gets from smarks and possibly the backstage boys, he consistantly draws a positive reaction.
Well so didn't Ultimate Warrior. What happens as Batista continues to get stale, and more importantly, in the event that he beats their beloved Undertaker, what are the chances people pay money to see him?
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:33 PM   #56
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dude, stop taking every topic and turning it around in a completely different direction for whatever reason. Also, stop tossing out ad hominem to enhance what you're saying. It doesn't really help.
No. Since you're too stupid to understand this simple fact though, I'll spell it out for you. My "turning around topics (Which is retarded in the first place, every topic around here gets turned around with or without me)" wouldn't be an issue if the stupid fucks complaining about it weren't so eager to join in.

You know, like you have.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:33 PM   #57
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And despite the animosity he gets from smarks and possibly the backstage boys, he consistantly draws a positive reaction.
Really, the guy is so over it's not funny. My dad and I went to a sd! house not so long ago and when Kane came he said "that'll be the biggest pop of the night." I replied "Nah, wait for Bats."

I was not wrong. That house errupted. He deserves his spot.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:34 PM   #58
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Well so didn't Ultimate Warrior. What happens as Batista continues to get stale, and more importantly, in the event that he beats their beloved Undertaker, what are the chances people pay money to see him?
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:34 PM   #59
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At least until they can get some one more over than him.
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Well so didn't Ultimate Warrior. What happens as Batista continues to get stale, and more importantly, in the event that he beats their beloved Undertaker, what are the chances people pay money to see him?
When that happens they should make him pass the tourch, until then he's money.
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Really, the guy is so over it's not funny. My dad and I went to a sd! house not so long ago and when Kane came he said "that'll be the biggest pop of the night." I replied "Nah, wait for Bats."

I was not wrong. That house errupted. He deserves his spot.
I completely agree. He's on top because he's drawing a huge reaction. I mean, it seems like a longshot, but the guy's hugely over. People are always all over Vince to make smart decisions, but they want one of the most over guys in wrestling to be depushed because he's not a smark fave, and THIS is a smart decision?

Now, I'm not calling Vince bright, but it's painfully obvious that Batista is someone who is concurrently over and getting a push. Despite the insistance people will turn on him, or whatever, he's a monster, and whether by competence or by luck, they've got a bnonafide star.

Why are we so eager to fuck with that?

And I don't even like Batista, currently. I'm just not quick to pretend that everything I don't like is bad for business.
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Oh KK, what a mindfuck. You've completely danced a circle around me. The bottom line is you only do it to get people to complain, which I rarely do. In this case you're being a total asshole for apparently no reason.

Normally, you just come in and side against the consesus, or offer vague contradictory opinions if any. You usually just act snide and miserable, and contribute just about nothing to the conversation other than wiseass insults in the direction of others. And that's fine. I rarely remark on that.
So when I actually do, don't convince yourself of any superiority by having me participate in the stupid crap that I'm criticizing in the first place.
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I know you're playing the "I don't get it" card again, BDC, but "red state" comes up a lot more than specifically politics these days. I get it. Simple, retarded, is endearing. Therefore, you are playing the most endearing person on the board with your constant "I'm so simple I barely understand the words I type" card.

But seriously. Shut the fuck up. Stop pretending.
I'm taking this argument else where: http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthrea...69#post1663569
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