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HHH hogging the belt 8 20.51%
Cena hogging the belt 28 71.79%
Honestly, neither ever bothered me. 3 7.69%
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:38 PM   #41
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Yes, but you should only pay to watch people lose if there a heel, shouldnt you?
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:38 PM   #42
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How is that then?
Triple H dropped the belt to Benoit,HBK,Goldberg, and Batista. All of them had a meaningful reign as World Champion.

HBK's reign was only a month (to drop back to HHH) but it served its purpose of adding fuel to their feud (which IMO is tied with Brock/Angle as the greatest feuds of the current "era".)

Benoit got the super push and made Triple H tap at the biggest WrestleMania since X-Seven.

Goldberg got a short but decent reign as World Champion considering how limited his marketability and booking potential is.

Triple H made Batista.

What has Cena done? He has been carried up until his fued with Umaga. He dropped the belt to Edge only for Edge to get shit on weeks later. RVD fucked up, and Edge got the belt...ONLY TO GET SHIT ON MY CENA. Cena has gone over most of the biggest names the WWE has right now and in the most rediculous ways possible. At least Triple H sold for opponents and made them look like a million bucks. Yeah, HHH probably should have dropped the belt to RVD (but would you give the world title to a guy who badmouths your company on interviews?). He should have probably dropped the belt to Booker T. and/or Kane. Triple H was the best on RAW during his reigns. Everybody just is forgetting that SmackDown! during this time was amazing (SD! had Angle,Lesnar,Undertaker,Benoit,Eddie,Edge,Mysterio and an awesome undercard.) so HHH gets a bad rap for a bad product. Who would have looked good against that SmackDown! card when all you have on RAW is Triple H, HBK, Kane, Booker T., Scott Steiner, and Kevin Nash, and Goldberg. Everybody needs to realize that Triple H is one of the best workers in the entire fucking world. Yeah, he had help because he is married to Stephanie but that is the world of professional wrestling. Let's not forget than Cena and VINCE McMahon are pretty good buddies over the last year or so. Cena is a horrible worker, and his "magic healing" at WrestleMania 23 proved that he doesn't belong where he is. HBK does oversell but it fits into the match and HBK is still one of the best workers in the entire world at 40. You don't have to be WWE Champion for 90% of the past 3 years to sell merchandise. I promise you the little wigger children wouldn't stop bugging their parents to buy his Chain Gang shit and spinner belts if he wasn't SuperCena for 36 months.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:38 PM   #43
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And it wouldnt have matter who HBK was against and wanted to see him win, if that meant Cena losing, then that was a bonus.
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I honestly think that if HBK would have done the same program against somebody (especially somebody who could work) that it would have been just as huge.

Triple H was helped a lot by the anti-Cena sentiment, but it showed that Triple H has reached that level of fan respect to where he will almost never be a true heel again. Kinda like Flair, Piper, HBK, Rock, and Austin.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:42 PM   #45
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Cena is worse than Hogan's, HHH's and Jarrett's reigns combined in their respective companies.
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Actually, fif you wanbt to be technical, Trips' politicking left the void that's being filled in the main event.

So we can thank Trips for Belt hogging, and in part ofr Cena.
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Yes, but you should only pay to watch people lose if there a heel, shouldnt you?
I think he's a tweener, really. For every person like you who paid to see him lose, there was a little kid who begged his parents to buy it to see him win. Either way, you paid, so heel and face really doesn't matter.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:53 PM   #49
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I honestly think that if HBK would have done the same program against somebody (especially somebody who could work) that it would have been just as huge.
You mean like in 1996-97 and Michaels beat fucking everyone imaginable with that superkick and still was a piss poor draw as champion?
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:55 PM   #50
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What made all of Cena's main event feuds entertaining? I'll give you a hint...it wasn't Cena.

Cena vs. JBL: JBL being the chickenshit heel made that feud.
Cena vs. Jericho: Chris Jericho busted his ass and put Cena over like a class act on his way out of WWE.
Cena vs. Angle: Noticing a trend yet?
Cena vs. Edge: Edge carried this whole thing for a year and really solidified Cena's reign. Until Edge came along, nobody took Cena seriously against top talent.
Cena vs. Triple H: People payed to see Triple H get back on his throne. They cum'd to the idea of Triple H making Cena his bitch in Chicago.
Cena vs. RVD: Between the rabid RVD fans and the general hatred of Cena made this fun to watch.
Cena vs. Kevin Federline: *vomit*
Cena vs. Umaga: 5-Star Shitfest
Cena vs. HBK: HBK made this. Everything in the feud revolved around what HBK would do. The match was amazing until Cena completely killed the suspension of disbelief. If I were HBK, I'd have been pissed too.
Cena vs. Khali: KHALI is making this entertaining because he is so horrible in such a funny way.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:56 PM   #51
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Just to add, I think Michaels has been nothing short of FUCKING AWESOME since his comeback but the people wanted new stars. Michaels isn't a new star. Michaels was around when I first saw the WWF in 1989. The main reason fans left was due to lack of new stars and their favourites not getting pushed.
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Yeah Cena isn't entertaining. It's all the marks who made him the 5th biggest draw in WWE history and the current top draw in house show tickets, PPV buys and merch sales. Boring as fuck though.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:58 PM   #53
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You mean like in 1996-97 and Michaels beat fucking everyone imaginable with that superkick and still was a piss poor draw as champion?
Just like from 1992-1995 when Bret made everybody tap out and was a piss poor draw as champion?
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Old 06-06-2007, 06:01 PM   #54
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Yeah Cena isn't entertaining. It's all the marks who made him the 5th biggest draw in WWE history and the current top draw in house show tickets, PPV buys and merch sales. Boring as fuck though.
5th biggest draw? I just want to remind you that he isn't the only main event world champion in WWE. Undertaker, Batista, and HBK deserve just as much credit for the huge money made from WM23 and all the big ppvs. All the multi-brand PPVs do quite well, but its the single-brand PPVs that were doing shitty.
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Old 06-06-2007, 06:02 PM   #55
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So Rob actually likes John Cena?
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Old 06-06-2007, 06:12 PM   #56
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Just like from 1992-1995 when Bret made everybody tap out and was a piss poor draw as champion?
Get over the fact I like Bret Hart. My liking him doesn't make me blind to everyone else including Shawn Michaels. You on the other hand are borderline obsessed with this feud between them that happened fucking years ago. Actually, I take that back. You are way past that line.

The Wrestling Observer has quarterly break downs of all the stats and Meltzer keeps track of all this shit and Cena is the number 5 all time draw. Bret Hart is 6th. GET OVER IT!
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So Rob actually likes John Cena?
I do in that he entertains me. This is nothing new though. There aren't many guys in the company that do still entertain me but he is one of them.
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Cena's entertaining. Really, he is.
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You mean like in 1996-97 and Michaels beat fucking everyone imaginable with that superkick and still was a piss poor draw as champion?
Superkick>FU
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Get over the fact I like Bret Hart. My liking him doesn't make me blind to everyone else including Shawn Michaels. You on the other hand are borderline obsessed with this feud between them that happened fucking years ago. Actually, I take that back. You are way past that line.

The Wrestling Observer has quarterly break downs of all the stats and Meltzer keeps track of all this shit and Cena is the number 5 all time draw. Bret Hart is 6th. GET OVER IT!
I'd like to believe you but OMG U LIEK BRET LOLZ.

Okay, got that out of my system.
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I actually like Bret Hart, but I just happen to be more of a Shawn Michaels fan.
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KK, how about you walk the mean streets of Vermont and beat up some "black kids" who live across the street. Damn republican negroes.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:59 PM   #69
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Id say Cenas because he won the title at WM 21. And besides the 3 week reign of Edge in Jan 06 and the span from ONS 2006 in June to Unforgiven in Sept he has had it ever since.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:54 PM   #70
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KK, how about you walk the mean streets of Vermont and beat up some "black kids" who live across the street. Damn republican negroes.
You moron. There are no black people in Vermont.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:55 PM   #71
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I hate both incidents, but I hate HHH's more because there were more people that, in my opinion, needed and deserved clean wins against HHH to get over, or at least runs with the belt in his era, whereas most of the people on Raw right now I either don't give a shit about, don't need the win/title, or aren't anywhere near the main event.
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Old 06-07-2007, 05:05 AM   #73
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You moron. There are no black people in Vermont.
Thats why I said "black people". (aka wiggers)
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:10 AM   #74
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You suck at storytelling James. Go back to the rest home.
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:22 AM   #75
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How about you go to the discussion forum and bully your way to "victory".
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:22 AM   #76
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...or you could always just quit being a jackass.
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:23 AM   #77
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SO SERIOUSSSSSSS RITE NOW
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:35 AM   #78
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...or you could always just quit being a jackass.
Howabout you lead by example?

Oh, right. Texan. You can't stop being a jackass anymore than a black man can stop liking watermelon.
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Howabout you lead by example?

Oh, right. Texan. You can't stop being a jackass anymore than a black man can stop liking watermelon.
How about you go marry some gays, legalize weed, and then go fuck yourself.
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I bet you are a closet republican.
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