DISCUSSION - What should the WWE do with Brock Lesnar AFTER Wrestlemania? - Page 2

**Heyman** · 03-01-2004, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

OHYEAH, I really like the idea of Jericho kicking Lesnar

also Lesnar-Orton would be cool to see.

The way I see it, Jericho has the biggest potential to draw as a main-event face. He has the mic skills, charisma, cockiness, etc.,.....everything that The Rock has. Think back to the year 2000. Chris Jericho was almost as popular as The Rock.......who was at his peak at the time.

When Chris Jericho defeated Triple H for the World title (which never officially happened), he got a HUGE pop.

In late 2001 when Chris Jericho began his feud with The Rock, the fans were initially leaning towards Jericho if you recall correctly (before Jericho made the full-fledged heel turn).

For all of these reasons, I believe that the WWE MUST push Jericho as a main-event face in the future. In my proposed scenerio, the more Lesnar is built up as a monster heel, the greater the response Jericho would get in defeating Lesnar.

**The CyNick** · 03-01-2004, 02:02 PM

I'm just going to respond to a bunch of things brought up in the last few posts:

- Regarding Benoit: It depends what you call getting buried. The way I see it Benoit will be treated just like Goldberg was, which is bad. Benoit will likely get the title at Mania, defend it at Backlash, then maybe get one more defense, and then that'll be it, it'll go back to Hunter. To me thats not a sufficient way to build a new star. The result will be Benoit will go back to the spot that BT, Jericho and RVD currently have on RAW. Again, to me thats getting buried.

-There haven't been any confirmation of when Hunter will be off TV, if at all. Since its a WWE Films project they could easily schedule the shooting around RAW. I could easily see a scenario where Hunter would be World Champ, work fewer house shows, and just show up mainly for RAW tapings and PPVs. Also, I cant see the movie taking more than a couple of months to shoot (it'll be low budget so it shouldn't take that long), so that doesn't leave time for many fueds for Benoit to work before Hunter wants his title back. Thats another reaosn why bringing Lesnar to RAW would be useless.

-HHH beating Lesnar is just a bad idea IMO. HHH is not a draw anymore, he should be used to get over Randy Orton at Mania next year, not to go over for the millionth time against a future star.

-HHH did bury Goldberg as I mentioned. The way he did it was he kept post-poning when Goldberg would get the title. Originally it was supposed to be June, then it was August, and then finally it was Spetember. In the meantime HHH had Goldberg booked in positions to either have him sell (which kills his whole gimmick) or work long matches which also hurts him. By the time Goldberg got the title, he wasn't as effective because of the booking. Yeah he won the World Title and he got wins over HHH, but neither was done the right way, so it didn't mean anything.

-I wouldn't do Austin-Lesnar unless Austin was willing to JOB. Considering Austin has NEVER put over anyone properly (except Rock last year at Mania, but that doesn't count) he should be forced to help along a new star. Lesnar at that point would have consecutive Mania wins over Angle, Goldberg and Austin, which would be quite the resume. If you build the match where Austin is risking his health by just stepping in the ring, he will still get over even if he loses. Plus, having Austin beat Lesnar would serve no positive purpose. In terms of the Foley-Orton comparison, its not the same, Foley will likely get a win in a tag match, but then lose a singles match (which is more important).

-Lesnar in Evolution just doesn't fit from a character standpoint. lesnar is a big jacked up jock, not a sharp dressing ladies man who likes fast cars and faster women. If Orton takes orders from a new leader he looks like a punk. When HHH took over DX he was at a lower level than Orton is now, and he did fine. Imagine if someone would have come in and took over lthe group ahead of HHH, he would have looked like a punk. Whenever Orton takes over the group he can still be IC champ, but he has to making a push towards winning the World Title, which I would do at Mania next year.

-RVD on Smackdown I think is a good idea. However I dotn think RVD will ever get over as a heel. Reason being is that his work is too spectacular to get booed. Yeah he could align with Heyman for heat, but when he was with the Alliance in '01 he was getting massive pops even though he was a heel. I thinkt he same would happen on SD, which would make a heel turn ineffective. As Ive said before I think SD needs more heels not faces.

-Jericho as a main eventer? .......ahahahahahaha....sorry that always makes me laugh. Look Jericho will get his chances to wrestle in main events, he may even get another title run at some point (maybe), but he will never be the top guy where they set up Lesnar to run through a bunch of guys (especially when one of those guys is HHH) only to JOB to Jericho. That may sound like a decent idea, but trust me it will NEVER happen.

**Heyman** · 03-04-2004, 06:00 PM

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RVD on Smackdown I think is a good idea. However I dotn think RVD will ever get over as a heel. Reason being is that his work is too spectacular to get booed. Yeah he could align with Heyman for heat, but when he was with the Alliance in '01 he was getting massive pops even though he was a heel. I thinkt he same would happen on SD, which would make a heel turn ineffective. As Ive said before I think SD needs more heels not faces.

http://www.rajahwwf.com/news/news.php?p=224

RVD may head to Smackdown after all.

03-01-2004, 02:02 PM	#42
The CyNick Make the IWC Great Again Posts: 8,922	I'm just going to respond to a bunch of things brought up in the last few posts: - Regarding Benoit: It depends what you call getting buried. The way I see it Benoit will be treated just like Goldberg was, which is bad. Benoit will likely get the title at Mania, defend it at Backlash, then maybe get one more defense, and then that'll be it, it'll go back to Hunter. To me thats not a sufficient way to build a new star. The result will be Benoit will go back to the spot that BT, Jericho and RVD currently have on RAW. Again, to me thats getting buried. -There haven't been any confirmation of when Hunter will be off TV, if at all. Since its a WWE Films project they could easily schedule the shooting around RAW. I could easily see a scenario where Hunter would be World Champ, work fewer house shows, and just show up mainly for RAW tapings and PPVs. Also, I cant see the movie taking more than a couple of months to shoot (it'll be low budget so it shouldn't take that long), so that doesn't leave time for many fueds for Benoit to work before Hunter wants his title back. Thats another reaosn why bringing Lesnar to RAW would be useless. -HHH beating Lesnar is just a bad idea IMO. HHH is not a draw anymore, he should be used to get over Randy Orton at Mania next year, not to go over for the millionth time against a future star. -HHH did bury Goldberg as I mentioned. The way he did it was he kept post-poning when Goldberg would get the title. Originally it was supposed to be June, then it was August, and then finally it was Spetember. In the meantime HHH had Goldberg booked in positions to either have him sell (which kills his whole gimmick) or work long matches which also hurts him. By the time Goldberg got the title, he wasn't as effective because of the booking. Yeah he won the World Title and he got wins over HHH, but neither was done the right way, so it didn't mean anything. -I wouldn't do Austin-Lesnar unless Austin was willing to JOB. Considering Austin has NEVER put over anyone properly (except Rock last year at Mania, but that doesn't count) he should be forced to help along a new star. Lesnar at that point would have consecutive Mania wins over Angle, Goldberg and Austin, which would be quite the resume. If you build the match where Austin is risking his health by just stepping in the ring, he will still get over even if he loses. Plus, having Austin beat Lesnar would serve no positive purpose. In terms of the Foley-Orton comparison, its not the same, Foley will likely get a win in a tag match, but then lose a singles match (which is more important). -Lesnar in Evolution just doesn't fit from a character standpoint. lesnar is a big jacked up jock, not a sharp dressing ladies man who likes fast cars and faster women. If Orton takes orders from a new leader he looks like a punk. When HHH took over DX he was at a lower level than Orton is now, and he did fine. Imagine if someone would have come in and took over lthe group ahead of HHH, he would have looked like a punk. Whenever Orton takes over the group he can still be IC champ, but he has to making a push towards winning the World Title, which I would do at Mania next year. -RVD on Smackdown I think is a good idea. However I dotn think RVD will ever get over as a heel. Reason being is that his work is too spectacular to get booed. Yeah he could align with Heyman for heat, but when he was with the Alliance in '01 he was getting massive pops even though he was a heel. I thinkt he same would happen on SD, which would make a heel turn ineffective. As Ive said before I think SD needs more heels not faces. -Jericho as a main eventer? .......ahahahahahaha....sorry that always makes me laugh. Look Jericho will get his chances to wrestle in main events, he may even get another title run at some point (maybe), but he will never be the top guy where they set up Lesnar to run through a bunch of guys (especially when one of those guys is HHH) only to JOB to Jericho. That may sound like a decent idea, but trust me it will NEVER happen.