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Old 11-27-2007, 10:49 AM   #41
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On the topic of Jericho's new move, I'm glad to see that Malibu Stacy has a new hat.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:57 AM   #42
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Yeah, because wrestling was saved by HBK.
I never said HBK is going to save wrestling. I merely said that if you want greatness, look to HBK.

Also, I didn't bother reading the rest, figured it had something to do with Val being champion.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:58 AM   #43
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:15 AM   #44
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Also, I'm fairly certain it was you who pointed out that the ratings of a show the week someone returns isn't a good indication of how effective their return actually is. You need to see if more people tune in next week, after hearing about it. Wait until the ratings come out the same this week as last week before you start bitching about him doing nothing. Follow your own fucking advice.
Yes I did point out the ratings were weak. There is a slight difference from someone unexpectedly coming back and Jericho's return. The Save_us.222 videos have been airing for months before annoucing the exact date this mysterous stranger was coming to save wrestling. And no one cared. Now if that that is Jericho's or WWE's fault, that remains to be seen. But the fact is everyone knew something big was suppose to be happening last Monday and they still choose not to tune in.
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Another made-up argument by Narcissus.
And another hipocracy by KK. Honestly friend, if you're going to make a claim that nothing that I say has any substance it would probably be a good idea to stop doing the same thing. All you ever do is blame people for doing the same things you do yourself, only you do them more so and without finesse. It's a shame that you have so many posts and about 90% of them are quick, terrible, unsubstantial one liners that ultimately fail in their objective to cover up your unintelligence and lack of logic.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:54 AM   #46
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And another hipocracy by KK. Honestly friend, if you're going to make a claim that nothing that I say has any substance it would probably be a good idea to stop doing the same thing. All you ever do is blame people for doing the same things you do yourself, only you do them more so and without finesse. It's a shame that you have so many posts and about 90% of them are quick, terrible, unsubstantial one liners that ultimately fail in their objective to cover up your unintelligence and lack of logic.
Yeah, but you see KK was backing me up so he was right. :foc:
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:55 AM   #47
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:56 AM   #48
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Yes I did point out the ratings were weak. There is a slight difference from someone unexpectedly coming back and Jericho's return. The Save_us.222 videos have been airing for months before annoucing the exact date this mysterous stranger was coming to save wrestling. And no one cared. Now if that that is Jericho's or WWE's fault, that remains to be seen. But the fact is everyone knew something big was suppose to be happening last Monday and they still choose not to tune in.
I'm gonna wait and see the real ratings before I start saying they were weak, but yes. with them hyping a return "Next Week," the ratings should have already been impacted.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:58 AM   #49
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I love these arguments.

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KK: What you're saying is ambiguous!

Narcissus: Ambiguous statement about you pointing out the ambiguity of my statement!
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:01 PM   #50
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I'm gonna say yay, but a different name maybe, Y2Jacked Yo Face or something stupid, code breaker is just pathetic
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:02 PM   #51
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And another hipocracy by KK. Honestly friend, if you're going to make a claim that nothing that I say has any substance it would probably be a good idea to stop doing the same thing.
Narc, that's not what I said. Why do you feel so compelled to make up others' arguments for them? Are you simply not smart enough to actually understand what's being said, so you try and fill in the blanks?
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:02 PM   #52
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I'm gonna wait and see the real ratings before I start saying they were weak, but yes. with them hyping a return "Next Week," the ratings should have already been impacted.
It was even just "next week." It was at least 2 solid months of hype, then a full week of heavy promotions that something huge and awesome (possibly y2j related) was going to happen on the November 19th edition of Raw at 10, 9 central!
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:09 PM   #53
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It was even just "next week." It was at least 2 solid months of hype, then a full week of heavy promotions that something huge and awesome (possibly y2j related) was going to happen on the November 19th edition of Raw at 10, 9 central!
My point was more that it was specifically that they had kind of, you know, removed all doubt. At this point, it's pretty much impossible to dub it a "surprise," since there's no real doubt in "Next Week." Especially when King parrots it.
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KK, let's get real. That's all you ever do. Somebody says something that hurts you, you make believe that it didn't count because the person saying it is a moron or something, they continue to hurt you, you say something like "Nice one" or whatever else, and the cycle continues forever.
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I think you boys are forgetting that nobody likes wresling anymore...I think the ratings went up in the last segment of Raw last week as much as anyone with two brain cells to rub together could have expected.

Jericho being back is awesome, becasue he is awesome. Will he improve the ratings, probably not. Will anything improve the ratings...probably not

The new finisher was pretty good.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:48 PM   #56
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KK, let's get real. That's all you ever do. Somebody says something that hurts you, you make believe that it didn't count because the person saying it is a moron or something, they continue to hurt you, you say something like "Nice one" or whatever else, and the cycle continues forever.
I rarely every say something like "nice one."

You're just making up my argument again.

Honestly, why do you do it? You really do seem quick to make claims of what people do when they don't, put words in their mouths, etc. In the process, you tend to show off how little you comprehend.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:28 PM   #57
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I wasn't using what you were saying word for word. It was simply an example of how you blow people off when they are clearly shining when in comparison to you. My apologies for assuming that you would be able to figure that out, it won't happen again. I've put no words in your mouth whatsoever nor have I claimed you do things that you don't do. My first statement was ridiculing you for making my statements seem empty and without substance while you do the same things yourself. If that isn't what you were trying to say then that is clearly your fault because it came out that way. Learn to express yourself a little better. Not that I don't expect terrible social skills from a guy that has over 100k posts on a wrestling message board, but at least TRY to break the stereotype for your sake.
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I like that the immediate response to having one's baseless generalizations called out is to make more baseless generalizations.

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Also, Narc's having to take whole paragraphs to respond to KK's one lines and handfuls of assholery. If you can't get your point across without writing a short play, wouldn't you have trouble expressing yourself?
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I wasn't using what you were saying word for word. It was simply an example of how you blow people off when they are clearly shining when in comparison to you. My apologies for assuming that you would be able to figure that out, it won't happen again.
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...If that isn't what you were trying to say then that is clearly your fault because it came out that way. Learn to express yourself a little better.
"If I can't understand you, it's also your fault."
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I'm failing to see how me getting my points across in a rational, thought provoking manner is an indication that I have trouble expressing myself. Interesting hypothesis though.
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I like that the immediate response to having one's baseless generalizations called out is to make more baseless generalizations.

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Also, Narc's having to take whole paragraphs to respond to KK's one lines and handfuls of assholery. If you can't get your point across without writing a short play, wouldn't you have trouble expressing yourself?
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"You can't understand me and it's your fault."



"If I can't understand you, it's also your fault."
Critic's basically made my argument for me. Making my response even shorter than I needed it to be.
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"You can't understand me and it's your fault."



"If I can't understand you, it's also your fault."
Two different scenarios. You can take things out of context if you'd like if that's what you need to do. Not a problem. The difference is that I have no problems getting my point across.
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I'm failing to see how me getting my points across in a rational, thought provoking manner is an indication that I have trouble expressing myself. Interesting hypothesis though.
Thought provoking? Isn't that a little egotistical?

Or does not being KK somehow make you incapable of being an egotistical prick?

Really, I'm not sure your "No, you did it" style of repeating yourself can be defined as "rational," either. I don't know what it is with you people and burden of proof, but generally, you need to find sources and evidence before making crazy claims... especially when there's evidence to the contrary in the same goddamn thread. Prime example:

Did KK blow you off earlier?

Or did he point out that you were making a baseless and rather wild generalization without going into a fucking novel?

I saw the latter, but then again, it was pretty fucking obvious. I don't know, maybe you're going into the Alienoid flavor of emotional attachment blinding you to the inherant point, but holy shit! He did actually have a point in there. Instead of realizing that an active and sensical criticism was being indicated by that snide remark, though, all you saw was "OMG KK IS MAKING FUN OF MEEEE."

But y'know. Terrible social skills and all that other bullshit.

The only "rational, thought provoking" points I see here involve you flailing to grab KK's E-Balls, because God only knows you can't defend the fact that you did make a wild, baseless statement, followed by another, followed by a-fucking-nother.
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Two different scenarios. You can take things out of context if you'd like if that's what you need to do. Not a problem. The difference is that I have no problems getting my point across.
Yeah, two different scenarios.

One statement typed by you, one statement typed by KK. Misinterpretation from either side somehow falls squarely on his shoulders in both instances, and there's no human possible fucking way that any misinterpretation could possibly be your fucking fault because...

...why, again? Oh, right. You said so. Your social skills are infalliable, and your points are thought provoking.
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Or did he point out that you were making a baseless and rather wild generalization without going into a fucking novel?
I think you may be on to something, there.

More to the point, you addressed what I said without making up some completely unrelated nonsense to do so.
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Thought provoking? Isn't that a little egotistical?

Or does not being KK somehow make you incapable of being an egotistical prick?

Really, I'm not sure your "No, you did it" style of repeating yourself can be defined as "rational," either. I don't know what it is with you people and burden of proof, but generally, you need to find sources and evidence before making crazy claims... especially when there's evidence to the contrary in the same goddamn thread. Prime example:

Did KK blow you off earlier?

Or did he point out that you were making a baseless and rather wild generalization without going into a fucking novel?

I saw the latter, but then again, it was pretty fucking obvious. I don't know, maybe you're going into the Alienoid flavor of emotional attachment blinding you to the inherant point, but holy shit! He did actually have a point in there. Instead of realizing that an active and sensical criticism was being indicated by that snide remark, though, all you saw was "OMG KK IS MAKING FUN OF MEEEE."

But y'know. Terrible social skills and all that other bullshit.

The only "rational, thought provoking" points I see here involve you flailing to grab KK's E-Balls, because God only knows you can't defend the fact that you did make a wild, baseless statement, followed by another, followed by a-fucking-nother.
The fact that you bolded your text makes you right. Listen, I never claimed to be or not be anything. I am myself all the time. If you find me to be a tad on the egotistical side then that's your judgement to make. Yes, when I argue with KK or anybody I find myself to be right in all instances. Irrational it may seem to you but why in the fuck would I say it if I didn't think I was right? If you go into arguements knowing that you're wrong but still trying to convince the masses that you are correct then that is entirely your deal but I don't do business that way. Anyway, by your standards I shouldn't even be taking this post seriously due to the fact that you most likely have trouble expressing yourself since you made such a long post. Or does that only apply to me? Guess I'm not the only one that contradicts myself, eh?
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The fact that you bolded your text makes you right. Listen, I never claimed to be or not be anything. I am myself all the time. If you find me to be a tad on the egotistical side then that's your judgement to make. Yes, when I argue with KK or anybody I find myself to be right in all instances. Irrational it may seem to you but why in the fuck would I say it if I didn't think I was right? If you go into arguements knowing that you're wrong but still trying to convince the masses that you are correct then that is entirely your deal but I don't do business that way. Anyway, by your standards I shouldn't even be taking this post seriously due to the fact that you most likely have trouble expressing yourself since you made such a long post. Or does that only apply to me? Guess I'm not the only one that contradicts myself, eh?
Wow. fucking run-on.

By the way, I get that you think you're right. I get that you think your argument is legit. The fact is, you're wrong. You made a blatantly false accusation against BDC, and when someone called you on making up said argument, you responded with more blatantly incorrect and generalised statements.

Or, in a shorter form, you're an idiot who's ranting because he wasn't smart enough to understand the cricicism levied against him. Can you dedicate a novel to that?
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I accused BDC of nothing. I gave him my opinion. In my view, almost everything that comes out of his mouth is negative. I could find some evidence to support my case if I thought that it would help. However; you seem to be a bit too stubborn to admit that personal opinions and accusations are two completely different things.

On a side note: If you would like to keep argueing I'll argue all day.
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I accused BDC of nothing. I gave him my opinion. In my view, almost everything that comes out of his mouth is negative. I could find some evidence to support my case if I thought that it would help. However; you seem to be a bit too stubborn to admit that personal opinions and accusations are two completely different things.

On a side note: If you would like to keep argueing I'll argue all day.
Oh God. You're actually playing the opinion card on this one. How droll. Not only ridiculous given what you actually said, but in no way changes the fact that your argument against me in response was utter bullshit.
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I accused BDC of nothing. I gave him my opinion. In my view, almost everything that comes out of his mouth is negative. I could find some evidence to support my case if I thought that it would help. However; you seem to be a bit too stubborn to admit that personal opinions and accusations are two completely different things.

On a side note: If you would like to keep argueing I'll argue all day.
1) How do you know that everything that comes out of my mouth is negative, you've never heard me talk.

2)Assuming you meant everything I type is neagtive, again you are wrong. Just everything about this Jericho run is negative because I'm unimpressed. I've been very possitve about Scott Hall coming back to TNA. So there.

3) I assume the rest is directed at Kane Knight or Critic.
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See, the funny things about opinions KK is that everybody has one. Whether or not you actually labeled it as an opinion, you've already stated yours. Thus playing the opinion card.

My opinion: You over dramatisize everything to try to make the person that you're talking to sound crazy because you have trouble defending yourself otherwise.

Your opinion: That I make wild accusations and come up with bullshit excuses to back them up.

It is very unlikely that we'll prove each other right... But as long as you want to keep going, I'm game.
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The fact that you bolded your text makes you right.
...Are you making fun of me for using emphasis? After bitching about communication problems?

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Listen, I never claimed to be or not be anything. I am myself all the time. If you find me to be a tad on the egotistical side then that's your judgement to make.
You claimed rather outright that your points are thought provoking. How is that a judgement call? How is that not egotistical? You're trying to dodge the fact that I called your bullshit by being profound, and it's coming off as... well, dodgy.



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Yes, when I argue with KK or anybody I find myself to be right in all instances. Irrational it may seem to you but why in the fuck would I say it if I didn't think I was right? If you go into arguements knowing that you're wrong but still trying to convince the masses that you are correct then that is entirely your deal but I don't do business that way.
But then when ample evidence to the contrary arises, you adamantly stick to your guns and refuse to see any other side of the story. If someone points out that you're wrong, and you can't refute it, don't immediately try and demean their person as a retort. If you make a mistake, man the fuck up to it... and seeing as you're going on a big rant about how you think that you personally are right, I'm going to go ahead and guess that you're having some doubts.

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Anyway, by your standards I shouldn't even be taking this post seriously due to the fact that you most likely have trouble expressing yourself since you made such a long post. Or does that only apply to me? Guess I'm not the only one that contradicts myself, eh?
I want you to reflect for a moment. I want you to look, long and hard. I want you to realize how many massive run-ons it takes you to express one point. Now realize that when I type alot, I'm actually making multiple, smaller points. Do you see that? Okay, good. Wit does not become you. Stop trying to attempt it.

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I accused BDC of nothing. I gave him my opinion. In my view, almost everything that comes out of his mouth is negative.
Please, don't do this. I really don't want to resort to defaming your intelligence, but this is outright ridiculous. Your exact words--and I quote, because that's how I do business--were as follows:

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BDC, you have no credibility because you hate everything. Everything is the entire free world is hated by you.
Congratulations, that is not actually an opinion. That's a statement as if it were fact. If you want to keep trying to pretend that it's an opinion, by all means. You're either desperate to win, or you're completely fucking clueless as to what defines an opinion. It's amply evident that you're talking out of your ass now, and trying to sound detached while clinging to any hope of being in the right. You're making every point count to try and justify yourself. It's more than evident that you have nothing left in the deck, and just don't want to admit that your bullshit has been called, and repeatedly.

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Did I come out and say that everybody in the world thinks that BDC hates everything? No, I did not. I do not find it necessary to label everything as an opinion or a fact because I didn't think that the debate would ever come up. I am under the impression that I can be held accountable for everything I say because unless I am quoting a direct source or unless I am giving evidence to prove something, everything I say is simply an opinion. It was an exageration to make a point.

Point: Of course he doesn't like it because in my experience he is very negative about most everything he talks about on these boards. Whichs leads me to judge him and form an OPINION.

Do I really believe that BDC hates everything in the entire world? Of course I don't. But feel free to overanalyze.
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It was an exaggeration to make a point.
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