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View Poll Results: Jerichos return sucks yay or nay? (yay means it sucks, btw)
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:48 PM   #41
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He's also been out of wrestling for years, I wouldn't expect him to come back putting on 5 star classics, or cutting uber mark-out promos.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:49 PM   #42
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Yeh but we can't definitively say "he sucks" because he hasn't made us all mark out like little bitches about anything in the two weeks he's been back. He hasn't had enough time to un-stink the joint.
A lot of it is just ring rust that he'll wear off in the coming monthes, but as of right now he's damn hard to watch. When someone asks me what I think up until this point the answer is it's been shit.

He'll get better, but right now good lord is it hard to sit through.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:49 PM   #43
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I think it'll start to "click" for him in the coming weeks...

If it doesn't then I'll say he's stinking up the joint.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:51 PM   #44
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He's BEEN stinking up the joint, present and past tense. I am however confident he will improve drastically once he gets back into the swing.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:52 PM   #45
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Yeh but wrestling just stinks, period, right now. This time next month if he hasn't done a damn thing better than he's doing right now, then I think its fair to nail him for it.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:53 PM   #46
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If they brought Monty Brown back and pushed him to the moon that would save wrestling.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:55 PM   #47
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Yeh but we can't definitively say "he sucks" because he hasn't made us all mark out like little bitches about anything in the two weeks he's been back. He hasn't had enough time to un-stink the joint.
I marked out harder for the APA's return than Jericho's.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:56 PM   #48
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I marked out harder for the APA's return than Jericho's.
Because at least their return was somewhat unpredictable. (Albeit it had a brief build up w/ The Swog on the phone)

It wasn't MONTHS and MONTHS of save_us.APA
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:58 PM   #49
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I marked out harder for the APA's return than Jericho's.
Maybe because it was unexpected. We had weeks knowing that Jericho was coming back and built up this idolised, and unachievable, misconception that once he came back, it would all be alright again,.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:58 PM   #50
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:59 PM   #51
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Yeh but wrestling just stinks, period, right now. This time next month if he hasn't done a damn thing better than he's doing right now, then I think its fair to nail him for it.
Wrestling stinking doesn't excuse Jericho haveing bad matces/promos. It's a bullshit argument.

If wrestling sucks he should standind as the shinig gem of the product by comparison.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:00 PM   #52
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He's also been out of wrestling for years, I wouldn't expect him to come back putting on 5 star classics, or cutting uber mark-out promos.
I understand you point about ring rust. But there in no excuss for his promos sucking as bad as they have. It is easy to practice those in like the car while driving to work or the store or somehting. In fact that is all i do. I cut promos on everyone around me. I could probably cut promo's around jerichos stupid ass right now.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:00 PM   #53
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But he sucks worse.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:04 PM   #54
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But it is hard to look good when nobody else around you does either. Not saying he even does look good right now, but he sure doesn't have any help either. It takes two to work a match, and an interesting storyline to cut a promo. He's had neither.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:05 PM   #55
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FINE. TWO FUCKING WEEKS INTO HIS RETURN HE SUCKS.

THERE. I SAID IT.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:06 PM   #56
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Bro Ric Flair could cut a promo on a broom and then work it to a 5 star match. Period.


On a side note I once saw a guy wrestle a broom at a show I worked on and honstely he stole the show.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:07 PM   #57
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But it is hard to look good when nobody else around you does either. Not saying he even does look good right now, but he sure doesn't have any help either. It takes two to work a match, and an interesting storyline to cut a promo. He's had neither.
It is not hard to look good when everyone else sucks. MVP does it.
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FINE. TWO FUCKING WEEKS INTO HIS RETURN HE SUCKS.

THERE. I SAID IT.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:09 PM   #59
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Bro Ric Flair could cut a promo on a broom and then work it to a 5 star match. Period.


On a side note I once saw a guy wrestle a broom at a show I worked on and honstely he stole the show.
Yeh but how many people are RIC FLAIR!?!

THAT is a bullshit argument!
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It is not hard to look good when everyone else sucks. MVP does it.
MVP has also been actively wrestling for...

Forget it. Nevermind.
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Jericho Sucks.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:10 PM   #62
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Why do you feel it neccesary to try to take the piss out of something that people have been waiting every waking moment for for two years? It is apparent by your survey that the majority disagrees with you.
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Yeh but how many people are RIC FLAIR!?!

THAT is a bullshit argument!
Nah compare everything to the top of the bar.
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Yeh but how many people are RIC FLAIR!?!

THAT is a bullshit argument!
2. Ric Flair and Shawn Micheals.
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But if everything is compared to the top of the bar then nothing is ever any good.
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Why do you feel it neccesary to try to take the piss out of something that people have been waiting every waking moment for for two years? It is apparent by your survey that the majority disagrees with you.
I'm sorry, I should just go with the flow and not cause any waves or nothing. I forget this is an agreement board not a discussion board.
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But if everything is compared to the top of the bar then nothing is ever any good.
Nah, things are rarely great. They can still be good.
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But if everything is compared to the top of the bar then nothing is ever any good.
Wrong, it just puts everything in its proper place. Flair/HBK > MVP > Chris Jericho > Most everything else > Ken Kennedy > Carlito.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:16 PM   #69
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all wrestling needs is a well put together 6 month storyline with twists and turns and progression. a stoyryline that involves most of the main guys in the company. it's not that hard and believe it or not, it has been done before.
Something Dreamer/Raven like where a lot of people are connected to the storyline.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:16 PM   #70
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I'm sorry, I should just go with the flow and not cause any waves or nothing. I forget this is an agreement board not a discussion board.
It isn't that. You already have 1 or 2 threads about how Jericho sucks. How many do you really need to get your point across. We understand that you are not in favor of Jericho's return. Good for you. I applaud you. Now shut up.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:19 PM   #71
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It is apparent by your survey that the majority disagrees with you.
Also, as of this only 11 people in the entire board complete disagree with me. While techincally I'm in the minority of non-trained smarks, it is 3 to 11, that is hard a great majorty.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:21 PM   #72
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It isn't that. You already have 1 or 2 threads about how Jericho sucks. How many do you really need to get your point across. We understand that you are not in favor of Jericho's return. Good for you. I applaud you. Now shut up.
I only have 1 other thread dedicated to jericho sucking, another i mentioned he sucked in, and then a bunch of people analyzed me saying he sucks. I suppose I should have pulled up my original Jericho sucks thread, but I don't know how to put a poll in once the thread has already been made like a week ago.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:22 PM   #73
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Flair/HBK > MVP > Chris Jericho > Most everything else > Ken Kennedy > Carlito.
I can pretty much agree with that. Though personally, I would put a few more >'s in front of Carlito.
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I can pretty much agree with that. Though personally, I would put a few more >'s in front of Carlito.
Yeah, it was pretty general. There are also a few > inbetween HBK and MVP and then a few > inbetween MVP and Jericho. Alls I'm saying is that MVP carried Benoit to the best matches of Benoit's life.
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Yeah, it was pretty general. There are also a few > inbetween HBK and MVP and then a few > inbetween MVP and Jericho. Alls I'm saying is that MVP carried Benoit to the best matches of Benoit's life.
Rofl, no. Liger, Hart, Booker. Best matches of Benoits life. The MVP trilogy was good, but shit. Overhyped much?
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Flair/HBK > MVP > Monty Brown > Chris Jericho > Most everything else > Sand in your eyes > Swift kick in the groin > Kennedy > Teddy Hart > Carlito
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Rofl, no. Liger, Hart, Booker. Best matches of Benoits life. The MVP trilogy was good, but shit. Overhyped much?
I never say those matches, therefore I assume they suck. Also, I've never seen Liger wrestle, so I assume he is made up. Plus I hate Bret Hart.
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