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Old 02-17-2008, 05:12 PM   #41
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Only a Brit would say something so stupid, yes the UK Office is gold, but to say the US Office isnt as good, and that it drags on is rediculous, and makes me beleive you really didnt want much of the US office.
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Only a Brit would say something so stupid, yes the UK Office is gold, but to say the US Office isnt as good, and that it drags on is rediculous, and makes me beleive you really didnt want much of the US office.
I didn't say it drags on, I said that it will drag on, just like every other US show with any popularity.
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The Office is terrible. Seinfeld is decent.

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Old 02-18-2008, 12:10 AM   #44
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I have watched both. I think I've seen every episode of both versions.
Then why did you say this??

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Firstly, it is based on the same scripts and characters. The US version offers nothing the UK version didn't.
Cause if you'd really seen the US version, there's no way you'd think it was off the same scripts and you'd also def not say that it hasn't brought anything new..

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They made their point and moved onto other projects, rather than milk the Office dry. Rather than dilute it, they ended it on a high. The US version will probably drag on for years, never really doing anything new or evolving.
Statements like this are what lead me to believe that you've never really watched it.. There has been so much character development and storyline depth in the three and a half season I am fiending right now for the new episodes.. I own the first three seasons and have watched them prolly 10 times a piece.. Will prolly watch them 10 more times a piece before season 5 starts..

You have no idea what you are talking about..
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Oh come on, when there are probably 4 times as many US episodes in the can than there are UK ones, of course there will be original material conjured up by the writers. I'm not saying there is no new material, simply that it offers nothing different to any UK viewer who has seen the original series, therefore it offers me (and them) nothing particularly fresh or new. It doesn't offer an alternative viewing experience, just more of the same only not as funny.

What part of the future tense do you not understand? I did not state that the US Office has dragged on for too long; rather that, like most all US shows, it is most likely to. You cannot cite the current quality of the show as an argument to counter the statement that the show will fade away to a shell of its former self.

I happened to find Friends one of the most enjoyable shows I had ever seen during it's early years but by the last season I had had enough already. Like 90% of US TV shows, it was overextended to its bitter, tired end.

Typical Yank arrogance to believe that you can take one of the greatest comedy shows ever made and somehow improve upon it. Even more arrogant, upon failing to do so, to claim that you have.
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The Office is terrible. Seinfeld is decent.

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Typical Yank arrogance to believe that you can take one of the greatest comedy shows ever made and somehow improve upon it. Even more arrogant, upon failing to do so, to claim that you have.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:13 PM   #50
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Typical Yank arrogance to believe that you can take one of the greatest comedy shows ever made and somehow improve upon it. Even more arrogant, upon failing to do so, to claim that you have.
Ricky Gervais gave the show to them and as quoted above loves it.. I don't get how and why you are "hating" on the US Office in future tense..

I don't see your point cause I don't think you have one..
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You know, I'll take back saying the UK version of The Office sucks because that was a jerk thing to say, but I don't find it funny. I don't find most British humor funny at all. Not arrogance, just cultural differences.
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Oh come on, when there are probably 4 times as many US episodes in the can than there are UK ones, of course there will be original material conjured up by the writers. I'm not saying there is no new material, simply that it offers nothing different to any UK viewer who has seen the original series, therefore it offers me (and them) nothing particularly fresh or new. It doesn't offer an alternative viewing experience, just more of the same only not as funny.

What part of the future tense do you not understand? I did not state that the US Office has dragged on for too long; rather that, like most all US shows, it is most likely to. You cannot cite the current quality of the show as an argument to counter the statement that the show will fade away to a shell of its former self.

I happened to find Friends one of the most enjoyable shows I had ever seen during it's early years but by the last season I had had enough already. Like 90% of US TV shows, it was overextended to its bitter, tired end.

Typical Yank arrogance to believe that you can take one of the greatest comedy shows ever made and somehow improve upon it. Even more arrogant, upon failing to do so, to claim that you have.

The Office is only in its fourth season right now. Your comments that it is going to "fade away to a shell of it's former self" has absolutely no backing to it whatsoever. So what if other US shows have gone this route? That doesn't mean that the writers and producers of The Office don't have a set plan for how much longer the show will go and what kind of storylines they're planning on playing out.

Even a great show like Scrubs lost some flavor in season 4, but from the episodes of The Office Ssn.4 that I've seen so far, they're only getting better. The turning of the tables with Ryan Howard as Michael Scott's boss is priceless comedy.

You can say that Gervais told the story he wanted to with The Office UK, and that's all fine and great, and no one's saying he didn't. But BJ Novak, Mindy Kaling, Paul Lieberstein, and Steve Carrell, along with the rest of the crew's writers, have created a NEW AND DIFFERENT show than the UK Office.

But as previously stated, I don't think you've actually watched a lot of the american Office, and I don't believe you understand your own argument here, primarily because you don't have one.
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Ricky Gervais gave the show to them and as quoted above loves it.. I don't get how and why you are "hating" on the US Office in future tense..

I don't see your point cause I don't think you have one..
*sigh*

I'm not hating on the future of the Office specifically... I'm generalising the treatment of all hit US shows. There is no reason to believe that US Office won't go the same way, yet a far superior show like Arrested Development only lasts a couple of seasons.

I actually like the US Office... not as much as the UK version, but it's okay, mainly due to the performances of Steve Carrell and Rainn Wilson. That dude who plays Jim must have studied Martin Freeman heavily because he plays the part almost identically to the UK version's Tim. Yet I have yet to meet a Brit who prefers it to the UK version, because it's simply just a watered down version.
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or because you're all british and have a cultural bias like you're claiming that we americans have. oh no, it can't be that.
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Not really. Most of my favourite ever shows, in the past and ongoing, have been American. It's just that US Office isn't as good as UK Office. I speak not as a Brit but as a comedy fan.
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America couldn't mimmick the humour the uk office is all about, mainly because A, they can't and B, they don't get it - all admissions I have seen in interviews, that programme where Ricky Gervaise met Larry David, DVD extras - And I'm not using that as an insult - its just fact, but because of those reasons, and because the UK version was something so new and awesome, it will ALWAYS be better than the US one. Always.
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To you, yes..

That's what y'all (Brits) seem to be missing.. WE (Americans) like ours better.. You know what, humor is SUBJECTIVE, and we have more than enough right to believe so.. Just like y'all have the right to believe y'all's is better..

Good Lord, this isn't that hard..
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Yeah and I get that, this isnt about takin shots etc, you seem to be the ones who do not get it - for us its like us trying our own hand at making friends, yet actually going lengths to claim its friends when in fact it would be/is a pile of wank. I think i'd have a less of a problem with it if they actually didn't call it the office or just ripped off the characters.

Jus cus all these people and I have the right to an opinion, doesn't mean its fact. Thats what these board are for Krispy, yinno, to discuss.
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Sorry. I shall adjust my opinion to match yours, lest I get stabbed in the face.

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The man that created it gave it to new writers and allowed them to do what they wanted with it.. The American viewing public seems to like it.. The creator is now a producer.. It was his choice.. Kinda like what Sam Rami is rumored to do with the Evil Dead remakes.. Alot of fans won't like them, but alot of fans will love it..

The thing is, the fans who fear the change prolly fancy themselves as "core" or "diehard" fans when, in this situation, is you, the Brit fan, allowed your show to stop after only 2 seasons.. The US Office will prolly run for like 10 seasons and dispite what NeanderCarl thinks or says, will prolly be awesome the whole time..
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Sorry. I shall adjust my opinion to match yours, lest I get stabbed in the face.

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No just don't put your opinion across as fact..
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No just don't put your opinion across as fact..
You mean, like you did?
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The only thing I've said that could be seen as fact is that Brit fans will like their version just like US fan will like ours.. I bet that is like 99.9% true..
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Old 02-19-2008, 04:08 PM   #65
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Thing is Steve Carrel is not funny at all in the show.
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Steve Carrell is hilarious in the show. Granted, he's not quite as amazing as Rainn Wilson, but he's such a great comedian that can play this particular type of role with a high level of excellence.
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I like Carrell. He plays Brent/Scott very differently, but he is good in his own way. He doesn't give Scott the "comedy monster" appeal of Brent, however. Saying that, I can't really think of anyone else who would do a better job.
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