TPWW Forums  

Go Back   TPWW Forums > w r e s t l i n g > wrestling forum
Reload this Page wrestlers that should be main eventing instead of the usual lame assclowns
Register Members List

Reply
Page 2 of 2 1 2
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-01-2008, 04:32 AM   #1
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
So a list for those of you too dumb/lazy to read:

Chris Jericho
Matt Hardy
Jeff Hardy
Val Venis
Kane
Finlay
Big Show
William Regal
Mr. Kennedy

There are a lot of guys who could main event given a bit more time, maybe even as little as one big performance or one great promo (MVP, Shelton Benjamin, Carlito and even Elijah Burke come to mind), but right now, these are the only men that "as is" deserve to be main eventers, in my opinion.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 04:34 AM   #2
Gertner
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Morrison should be without a doubt
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 05:49 AM   #3
Lux
The Rum Diary
 
Lux's Avatar
 
Posts: 13,841
Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Anyone in this thread who even mentioned Punk should die instantly, Elijah and Shelton should team up because at this rate i need to see them together now, Morrison is god on legs and should get that fucking finisher, i swear he had that neck breaker type finisher, he stop using that? besides that i could care less
Lux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 11:48 AM   #4
The CyNick
Make the IWC Great Again
 
The CyNick's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,922
The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)
Its so difficult to be a main eventer.

A lot of guys have talent, but would I trust them to draw me money? Probably not.

A guy like Matt Hardy is like that. I think he's a very good worker, understands the business, but I dont think he has the charisma to hold down a main event spot.

Jeff on the other hand, is less polished, and way more unreliable, but for whatever reason he really connects with the fans. So I would say he should be up there.

I only really watch the occasional episode of RAW these days, so I cant comments much on guys like CM Punk or John Morrison, and this Fetus guy I have never seen, dont know what he even looks like lol.

I do think Kennedy could be a top guy. He's got this arrogance about himself that really comes across well on TV.
The CyNick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 12:35 PM   #5
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by The CyNick View Post
Its so difficult to be a main eventer.

A lot of guys have talent, but would I trust them to draw me money? Probably not.

A guy like Matt Hardy is like that. I think he's a very good worker, understands the business, but I dont think he has the charisma to hold down a main event spot.

Jeff on the other hand, is less polished, and way more unreliable, but for whatever reason he really connects with the fans. So I would say he should be up there.
I don't know about that, actually. It's good to see you making an appearance, by the way.

Matt Hardy's "Sensei of Mattitude" run really helped him overtake Jeff Hardy in almost every area. He was the better wrestler, the more reliable one, better on the mic, and if I remember, everyone loved the gimmick. It was good enough that the WWE moved Matt to RAW, turned him face, and fucked it up. I mean, if the WWE fucks it up, you know it's a good thing.

Also, there was that 2005 thing I mentioned, when Matt Hardy was the hottest topic in pro-wrestling. It's not like he only gets lukewarm reactions, either. The man gets far better reactions than he should, given how much the WWE has beaten him down on occasion. I mean, Jeff was a fireball earlier this year, and Matt isn't at that stage right now, but given some momentum and the WWE not fucking up a hot storyline with him, I don't see why he couldn't become the same.

I get what you're saying about Jeff Hardy, though. He was the "wackier" of the two, and his flipping off shit and odd style earned him a fan-base for life, and higher pitched squeals when he removes his shirt. I don't think there is a very large gap of popularity between the two, though.

Jeff gets in front because he flipped off more shit, and that gets people over. Then he fucks up, and the good brother again becomes the star pupil, and does really well for himself, until something fucks him up, and then Jeff flips off more shit.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 05:32 PM   #6
The CyNick
Make the IWC Great Again
 
The CyNick's Avatar
 
Posts: 8,922
The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)The CyNick is good (20,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noid View Post
I don't know about that, actually. It's good to see you making an appearance, by the way.

Matt Hardy's "Sensei of Mattitude" run really helped him overtake Jeff Hardy in almost every area. He was the better wrestler, the more reliable one, better on the mic, and if I remember, everyone loved the gimmick. It was good enough that the WWE moved Matt to RAW, turned him face, and fucked it up. I mean, if the WWE fucks it up, you know it's a good thing.

Also, there was that 2005 thing I mentioned, when Matt Hardy was the hottest topic in pro-wrestling. It's not like he only gets lukewarm reactions, either. The man gets far better reactions than he should, given how much the WWE has beaten him down on occasion. I mean, Jeff was a fireball earlier this year, and Matt isn't at that stage right now, but given some momentum and the WWE not fucking up a hot storyline with him, I don't see why he couldn't become the same.

I get what you're saying about Jeff Hardy, though. He was the "wackier" of the two, and his flipping off shit and odd style earned him a fan-base for life, and higher pitched squeals when he removes his shirt. I don't think there is a very large gap of popularity between the two, though.

Jeff gets in front because he flipped off more shit, and that gets people over. Then he fucks up, and the good brother again becomes the star pupil, and does really well for himself, until something fucks him up, and then Jeff flips off more shit.

Dont get me wrong, I like Matt, there's just something about him that doesnt work for me.

I remember after they decided to go forward with the Edge program, I thought he might have a ton of steam behind him. And even though the WWE did very little to take advantage of the sympathy he had, he still came across to me as #2 against Edge. And I'm not even talking about who got the better of matches and stuff, I just thought Edge did his job better than Matt.

Now, I hear a lot of good things about the program with him and MVP, but I havent seen any of it to say one way or the other. I can say though, that when I see MVP, I see another guy who has the star aura, and I could see him headlining.

Its wierd, some guys are just not cut out to be headliners. They are great workers, great at everything they do, but they cant get over that last hurdle. Thats how I personally see Matt.
The CyNick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2008, 06:31 AM   #7
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by The CyNick View Post
Dont get me wrong, I like Matt, there's just something about him that doesnt work for me.

I remember after they decided to go forward with the Edge program, I thought he might have a ton of steam behind him. And even though the WWE did very little to take advantage of the sympathy he had, he still came across to me as #2 against Edge. And I'm not even talking about who got the better of matches and stuff, I just thought Edge did his job better than Matt.

Now, I hear a lot of good things about the program with him and MVP, but I havent seen any of it to say one way or the other. I can say though, that when I see MVP, I see another guy who has the star aura, and I could see him headlining.

Its wierd, some guys are just not cut out to be headliners. They are great workers, great at everything they do, but they cant get over that last hurdle. Thats how I personally see Matt.
That's fair enough, but I disagree with your interpretation. I think Matt Hardy looked like the star until the WWE squashed all his momentum at Summerslam. It was honestly one of the shittiest booking decisions the WWE could have made in the situation. Matt Hardy should have pummeled Edge into a pulp, getting himself disqualified, but getting the satisfying moral victory, and as a lead-up to the Steel Cage Match between the two.

You did make mention of that WWE not taking true advantage of the situation, but I think that is the only reason it didn't work. Matt Hardy was a sensation at the time, and if capitilsed on, it could have been a lot more successful.

I do get what you mean about Matt seeming like a mid-carder, though. I don't think Hardy should be limited, but I can understand how one would look at it that way. He's a former tag team guy, he doesn't have an epic frame to him, and he's not a genius on the mic. He's grown from nothing, and it's expected that most guys only grow so far.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 07:56 AM   #8
Lux
The Rum Diary
 
Lux's Avatar
 
Posts: 13,841
Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
For one who posts under the name The Optimist thats a pretty Pessimistic veiw
Lux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 08:01 AM   #9
The Optimist
Planet Races The Moon
 
The Optimist's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,376
The Optimist is pretty cool (5,000+)The Optimist is pretty cool (5,000+)The Optimist is pretty cool (5,000+)The Optimist is pretty cool (5,000+)
Yeah, if I'm such an optimist I should just ignore reality.

Honestly, I'd get it changed but I don't know who to talk to about that, if anyone.
The Optimist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 08:47 AM   #10
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Optimist View Post
Yeah, if I'm such an optimist I should just ignore reality.

It would be required. As much as I apprciate people trying to force a positive perspective, you have to be tripping or handicapped to do it.
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 08:04 AM   #11
Lux
The Rum Diary
 
Lux's Avatar
 
Posts: 13,841
Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Lux has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
forum questions & suggestions...

http://www.tpww.net/forums/forumdisp...aysprune=&f=13

good luck
Lux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 08:12 AM   #12
The Optimist
Planet Races The Moon
 
The Optimist's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,376
The Optimist is pretty cool (5,000+)The Optimist is pretty cool (5,000+)The Optimist is pretty cool (5,000+)The Optimist is pretty cool (5,000+)
I appreciate it.
The Optimist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 12:35 PM   #13
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
(And who's making empty accusations? My stance on Jericho was remarkably clear, and nothing you said was demonstrable. That's pretty empty...Hypocrite)
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 12:37 PM   #14
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
John Morrison's split-legged corkscrew moonsault is fucking amazing, by the way. If he could hit that (I'm sure it's one of those spots that is destined to miss save for the occasional big match "connecting" of the move), then it could definitely pass as an awesome finisher.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2008, 05:34 PM   #15
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Matt could have been huge coming out of that program. Whether you liked it or not, people ate it up.
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2008, 06:25 AM   #16
Mr. Nerfect
 
Posts: 61,634
Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Mr. Nerfect makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Oh, and I don't expect you to read all that. Couldn't care less. As I said, I've never written anything professional you've ever written, so until then, you mean nothing to me.
Mr. Nerfect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2008, 08:17 AM   #17
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I've referred to myself as a journalist several times, a few in direct response to you. Yeah, it's so unfathomable that I would actually expect you to know what you're talking about after you've been told.

But this goes to the heart of an argument BDC and I have had over the past couple of days. He thinks you're too stupid to actually lie, and that the falsehoods you spout are because you're not bright enough to understand. I think, on the other hand, that you lie with deliberate intent.

So perhaps you can settle this for us: Are you lying, or just too stupid to understand the facts which are presented?
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 2 of 2 1 2

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:09 PM.

Forums Home - TPWW - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin®