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Old 09-08-2008, 07:03 AM   #41
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What would have been sweet is if after getting his ass kicked towards the end of the match, Triple H and Jeff Hardy brawl out of the ring, and The Kendrick pins Shelton Benjamin or someone with some Zekerference, and became the official WWE Champion.

That would make it the greatest night of wrestling ever.
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:08 AM   #42
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I'm not upset over it. I'm just saying by that logic, Punk could have at least walked out too and valiantly tried to defend his title. He's been booked as the underdog all along, and to not do him that justice is the reason it makes him like Rey on sedatives.
But Punk was dead. There is no way he could have made it out there. Would he have looked like a Superman if he had done it? Sure. But isn't that part of the reason we hate Cena? Granted, Punk is just generally much cooler, but I think what they did is fine.

Punk took a move that apparently killed Dusty Rhodes and Rob Van Dam. The whole point wasn't just that they beat Punk down. They killed Punk. The whole purpose of this is so that CM Punk has a legitimate reason to want to kill The Princes of Pro-Wrestling. Not just so that he's mad at them. They fucked up his first run with the big gold belt on RAW. He didn't even stand a chance, and Orton is going to rub that in. It's going to be the most interesting thing Orton has done since winning the title in 2004. Punk doesn't look like a bitch. He looks like someone who was protected losing their first belt and transitioned into another major feud.

Punk would have looked worst if he had gone out there, took some Spears from Batista, and lost the match. Not only would he have looked weak, but he'd have looked stupid.
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:13 AM   #43
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Exactly right, noid.
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:22 AM   #44
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I'm psyched for this stable. Seems like it'll have a bit of everything. You have Orton as the main eventer, DiBiase and Rhodes as the tag team, and Afa as either the enforcer or the midcarder (or both).

I'm thinking Deuce will get involved too somehow, possibly to help out the faces but the whole trust issue will be there because he's a second generation guy too.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:21 AM   #45
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I'm psyched for this stable. Seems like it'll have a bit of everything. You have Orton as the main eventer, DiBiase and Rhodes as the tag team, and Afa as either the enforcer or the midcarder (or both).

I'm thinking Deuce will get involved too somehow, possibly to help out the faces but the whole trust issue will be there because he's a second generation guy too.
Well, when Cena returns in a few months, the faces against The Princes of Pro-Wrestling side will likely consist of CM Punk, Kofi Kingston and CTC. That's five guys. You might as well throw in Deuce to the heel side. However, now that time has passed, and nothing seems to be happening with them on SmackDown!, I would not be opposed to seeing DH Smith and Natalya fill those spots on Orton's team, while Mickie James also joins the face side (she seems to be banging Cena in storylines, and has a good "friendship" with Kofi Kingston).

To even up the female side on SmackDown!, send over a heel like Jillian Hall.
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:37 PM   #46
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But Punk was dead. There is no way he could have made it out there. Would he have looked like a Superman if he had done it? Sure. But isn't that part of the reason we hate Cena? Granted, Punk is just generally much cooler, but I think what they did is fine.

Punk took a move that apparently killed Dusty Rhodes and Rob Van Dam. The whole point wasn't just that they beat Punk down. They killed Punk. The whole purpose of this is so that CM Punk has a legitimate reason to want to kill The Princes of Pro-Wrestling. Not just so that he's mad at them. They fucked up his first run with the big gold belt on RAW. He didn't even stand a chance, and Orton is going to rub that in. It's going to be the most interesting thing Orton has done since winning the title in 2004. Punk doesn't look like a bitch. He looks like someone who was protected losing their first belt and transitioned into another major feud.

Punk would have looked worst if he had gone out there, took some Spears from Batista, and lost the match. Not only would he have looked weak, but he'd have looked stupid.
It wouldn't have been hard to put CM Punk in Jericho's place. Put him in during the last five minutes struggling to get to the ring. He comes in and a face isn't sure if they should attack him or not and they do because he says bring it on. Punk takes a pinfall after a Kane chokeslam, rolls outside, then gets a pinfall at the end of the match. If they wanted to put the belt on Jericho they could have said Punk was unfit to keep the belt and stripped him and held a tournament.

You have a guy who's been questioned for months in terms of the legitimacy of his reign. He's only really beaten a fat JBL. He's been beaten by Jericho, had a match with Batista come to a DQ. Now he doesn't even get to come to the ring to be involved in the decision. That's not even the same thing as losing in a threeway match. CM Punk is supposed to be the flag beared of Raw as champion, not the guy who "gets a rub" being the champion for a couple of months. See Randy Orton 2004. If they didn't know what to do with him, they shouldn't have given him the belt.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:34 PM   #47
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Y2J is champion again!!!!!!!!! I was truly shocked by all of what went down. Sure as hell didn't expect Punk to be taken out of the match. Wonder if he has the nuclear heatzzz again, lol. Either way this was a pretty damn good ppv. The new stable seems to be decent, even though I stilll hate CAWdy.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:43 PM   #48
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Anyone else think that if orton starts a new stable... Fucking Afa jr looks like he has no place there? He needs to be with Umanga so badly it's un-fucking-true.

If he's staying, I call Orton beating the shit out of him and introducing some other new dude in, The Ripper? DH Smith? Fuck Teddy Hart (WOOT?) I don't know. But someone else to make them 4-strong again.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:49 PM   #49
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CM Punks injury made perfect sense to me. I thought they did a great job there getting the title off of him without making him look weak. He was beat down by four guys and kicked in the head by the move that's taken out lots of guys inthe past like Noid and others said. I loved the whole setup. The whole thing where Orton was saying the Priceless Players had to make an impact or whatever was perfect continuation right there.

Then Jericho slips in and wins the World Title. Logically, it's wierd because HBK did beat the crap out of Y2J during the show, but they just set up a fucking World Title feud between the two. Not that it really needed a Title in the picture, but fuck, HBK vs Jericho for the World Title has a nice ring.

Raw should be sweet
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:57 PM   #50
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It wouldn't have been hard to put CM Punk in Jericho's place. Put him in during the last five minutes struggling to get to the ring. He comes in and a face isn't sure if they should attack him or not and they do because he says bring it on. Punk takes a pinfall after a Kane chokeslam, rolls outside, then gets a pinfall at the end of the match. If they wanted to put the belt on Jericho they could have said Punk was unfit to keep the belt and stripped him and held a tournament.

You have a guy who's been questioned for months in terms of the legitimacy of his reign. He's only really beaten a fat JBL. He's been beaten by Jericho, had a match with Batista come to a DQ. Now he doesn't even get to come to the ring to be involved in the decision. That's not even the same thing as losing in a threeway match. CM Punk is supposed to be the flag beared of Raw as champion, not the guy who "gets a rub" being the champion for a couple of months. See Randy Orton 2004. If they didn't know what to do with him, they shouldn't have given him the belt.
The stripping him of the title thing makes him look just as much like a bitch, seeing that is essentially what happened. Punk got injured, he couldn't compete, the title was held up in the Scramble. If Punk had still entered, he'd look like even more of a fluke. The way Jericho was put over as winning was as "doing no work." Punk retaining that way would have continued down the same path of "is he worth a shit as champion."

I think Punk should have been booked stronger throughout the rest of his title reign, don't get me wrong, but I think this was a good way to get the belt off him. I'd also make the case that he was definitely meant to get a rub from his title win, and that the WWE are still setting him up as the flag-bearer of the RAW brand, and that his feud with Orton will help further that.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:03 PM   #51
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Batista and Cena didn't look like bitches when he had to forfeit their titles. Granted, those were for legit reasons, but still. With all the ways to lose that match, not being involved in the match is probably the worst way it could have gone down. If they wanted to put the belt on Jericho, they could have had Punk not get punted during the segment. Have Kane snap and take Rey out so you still need a replacement and have that be Jericho, so the finish is the same. CM Punk gets the fall over Rey, Orton and Co come out and take him out THEN, and THEN Jericho sneaks over FTW. This is seriously like the first time I can think of that a main event guy sits out the main event (kayfabe). Then a guy who is MORE injured than him comes in and ends up winning the match and title. How does that not make Punk look ridiculous?
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But his match was much earlier.

Punk not being able to save his title regardless being attacked, if he is still in the match, makes him look more weak.
Then he loses legit and can only complain about The Age of Orton and the 2nd generation, but if Jericho goes in when CM Punk is injured, by 4 guys not just 1 pretty much 15 minutes before the match (jericho's match was an hour and a half earlier), now CM Punk has two people to blame. Two over one= less bitch.
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Batista and Cena didn't look like bitches when he had to forfeit their titles. Granted, those were for legit reasons, but still. With all the ways to lose that match, not being involved in the match is probably the worst way it could have gone down. If they wanted to put the belt on Jericho, they could have had Punk not get punted during the segment. Have Kane snap and take Rey out so you still need a replacement and have that be Jericho, so the finish is the same. CM Punk gets the fall over Rey, Orton and Co come out and take him out THEN, and THEN Jericho sneaks over FTW. This is seriously like the first time I can think of that a main event guy sits out the main event (kayfabe). Then a guy who is MORE injured than him comes in and ends up winning the match and title. How does that not make Punk look ridiculous?
Punk...was...dead. Jericho was not more injured. That's the whole point of it. Michaels thought he hurt Jericho so bad, and then Jericho manages to shake it off, put on a bravado, and win the World Heavyweight Title when the real champion is dead.

Punk didn't "sit out" the main event. He was likely unconscious on the way to hospital in storyline terms. It doesn't make him look ridiculous. It makes him look human.
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