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Old 12-07-2008, 03:33 PM   #1
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What do you mean by "get better with age?"

Obviously - a wrestler that is 21 years old (and sticks with wrestling) will be a lot better in a few years. With that being said, almost EVERYONE in the WWE fits that mold (or if they started at a later age...and then got better).

Having said that - I don't think anyone above the age of 35 (who has been wrestling for a LONG time) has gotten better.

-Given the fact that these wrestlers are 'aging' (combined with the extreme physical demands of the sport), it's almost impossible. Guys like Angle, Undertaker, Jericho, HBK, Benoit, Triple H, etc. are all/were great wrestlers, but aren't the wrestlers that they once were. Benoit is dead.
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:56 AM   #2
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:43 PM   #3
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Val Venis and CM Punk did have an excellent match on Heat in 2005. That's all I'm going to say about this topic.
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Old 12-12-2008, 06:24 PM   #4
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I'd say Undertaker has gotten better with age. His matches against Batista and Edge (for example) over the last couple years were better than his matches with The Rock and Kurt Angle and RVD and Jeff and Brock (circa 2002-2004) which were better than his matches against Austin and Mankind and Bret Hart (circa 1996-1999) which were much much better than anything he produced pre-1995.

That isn't meant to disparage any of the matches listed, as I rate them ALL as very good or better. But in a big match scenario right now, Taker is AS good or better than ever. Maybe not QUITE as consistantly good as when he was younger if you want to rate his performances across a whole year, but take Taker's best match of 2008, and it will be better than his best match of 2007, which will be better than his best match of 2006 and so on and so on, which barring a couple of poor years (2001, 1999 for example) and a couple of steller matches to disprove the rule (nothing he did in 1998 could top the Shawn Michaels Hell In A Cell match, thus throwing a spanner in the 'each year is better' works which I will overlook because it is just a GENERAL rule... that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it).... right, I've rambled myself into a corner now, forgive me, this is my first post in weeeeeeeeeeks.
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:28 AM   #5
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Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. Taker is 10 times the worker he was 10 years ago.

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Besides the obvious Undetaker which wrestlers do you think have gotten better now that they are older?
Edit: BTW, Taker/Angle No Way Out 05 has got to be in the top few favourite Taker matches of mine. 30 minute classic.
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Old 12-25-2008, 01:01 AM   #6
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Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. Taker is 10 times the worker he was 10 years ago.

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Edit: BTW, Taker/Angle No Way Out 05 has got to be in the top few favourite Taker matches of mine. 30 minute classic.
I still consider Undertaker Vs Kurt Angle a "New Taker match", compare that match to a match between the Undertaker Vs Kerry Von Erich it's not the same.
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Old 12-25-2008, 12:18 PM   #7
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Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. Taker is 10 times the worker he was 10 years ago.

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Edit: BTW, Taker/Angle No Way Out 05 has got to be in the top few favourite Taker matches of mine. 30 minute classic.
Amazing match that Taker had with Angle. Every match he has had Angle since that Smackdown match in 2003/2004 has been amazing. He managed to get excellent matches out of Batista and his match with Edge at WM24 was also amazing.

Taker has come on leaps and bounds from 10 years ago. I do find his matches in recent years a lot better than from 1998 - 2003. I also think the Hell In A Cell match he had with Lesnar is the best HIAC match of them all.
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Old 12-25-2008, 05:14 PM   #9
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I don't think I've seen his name anywhere in this thread but Eddie Guerrero definitely improved with age. By the time of his death he was probably the best example WWE had of any wrestler being a "complete package".
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Old 12-25-2008, 09:04 PM   #10
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I don't think I've seen his name anywhere in this thread but Eddie Guerrero definitely improved with age. By the time of his death he was probably the best example WWE had of any wrestler being a "complete package".
Agreed and with Benoit and Jericho.
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:48 PM   #11
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Besides his match with Kurt Angle, a very simply way to measure just how much Taker has found his stride, is by watching one of his recent matches with Big Show. They might not be classics, but compare them to what he used to do with Big Show. Both men are just so much more in the zone now than they ever were.

Eddie Guerrero is a very good answer. Always entertaining and a good worker, I guess, but he was just so fantastic towards the end. He was so beloved and respected, yet could still play a cold heel. It was pretty much taken as lore that Eddie was about to win the World Heavyweight Championship from Superman Batista, wasn't it?

It's a little surreal that Eddie apparently died so close to winning the big gold belt, and Chris Benoit died just before he became ECW Champion. If Benoit had stuck it out, and wrestled the series of matches that were forseeable with Punk, I think both the ECW Championship and CM Punk would be a lot more legitimate right now. But yeah, just a random little aside there.

I've got to throw William Regal and Finlay out there, too. Both guys have always been good in the ring, but Regal is really displaying a fantastic personality and Finlay doesn't seem to be slowing down. He seems more important to the industry than he's ever been, to sum it up.
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Old 12-27-2008, 04:27 PM   #12
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It's a little surreal that Eddie apparently died so close to winning the big gold belt, and Chris Benoit died just before he became ECW Champion. If Benoit had stuck it out, and wrestled the series of matches that were forseeable with Punk, I think both the ECW Championship and CM Punk would be a lot more legitimate right now.
should he have killed his family after he put punk over still?
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