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Old 03-28-2004, 06:21 PM   #41
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Okjay, I guess I'll be prepared for everyone to bitch at me when they don't understand my point. Thanks for admitting you were being a bitch.
It's not that we don't get your point, it's just that the point is shit and uses a horrible example.
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:23 PM   #42
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And I'm not even really a Rocky fan.

I do respect that he's a good worker, but I'm not overly a fan of his.
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:26 PM   #43
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It's not that we don't get your point, it's just that the point is shit and uses a horrible example.
My point is that some of the greatest of all time weren't great wrestlers. I could see the horrible example, but why is that such a horrible point?
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:26 PM   #44
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And I'm not even really a Rocky fan.

I do respect that he's a good worker, but I'm not overly a fan of his.
I guess you like Hardcore Holly then...
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:27 PM   #45
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df,bgkjdsroiguherogiuerog Did you just say greatest of all time in reference to Bradshaw's defense!?

Now I am going to bitch!
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:28 PM   #46
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My point is that some of the greatest of all time weren't great wrestlers. I could see the horrible example, but why is that such a horrible point?
Part of haveing a good point, is being able to do a job of expelinging or proving your point. You didn't in this case...
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:32 PM   #47
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My point is that some of the greatest of all time weren't great wrestlers. I could see the horrible example, but why is that such a horrible point?
You followed up by using Rocky in a comparison with Bradshaw.

If you cannot illustrate your own point adequately, then how can you defend it as a good point, and how could you ride other people for not "getting it?"
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:32 PM   #48
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Seriously KK, who DO you like, everyone I've heard you talk about is like, "I am not too much a fan of them but I respect their work." Besides people you blatently say suck. I'm not asking this to say you should like The Rock or anything, I am just curious as to who it is that gets KK's cheers or whatever.
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:33 PM   #49
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Billy Gunn.
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:34 PM   #50
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I'm not trying to be an ass or anything lol, don't get that question wrong, it has just eluded me if you've ever mentioned "Hey, I really like this wrestler."
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:35 PM   #51
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Billy Gunn.
BLEH, I am genuinely curious, be serious

Unless you are...
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:42 PM   #52
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Anyways, jsu t for you, I'll run down a list of people, using wwe.com as a ref point.

Al Snow (Not really wrestling, but he's there)
Benoit
Jericho
Christian
Edge
Storm
Hardy
Maven (sorta)
Mick
Molly Holly
Orton (I think he still needs some work)
HBK
Shelton
Richards
Tajiri
Hurricane

Smackdown:

Booker (though he's been kinda misused on WWE TV)
Hass
Doug and Danny (even though they need personailites)
Eddie
Cena
Angle
Rey Rey
RVD
O'Haire (Even if he was released )
Shannon Moore
Tazzzzzz (even if he's not really wrestling)
Ultimo
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:55 PM   #53
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Good list. And LoL at "Hardy," by saying Hardy, you insinuate that Matt Hardy is the only Hardy, and that Jeff doesn't count. That is very good.
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Old 03-28-2004, 07:01 PM   #54
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Jeff blows ass. Hopefully, everyone knows I mean V-1AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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Old 03-28-2004, 07:03 PM   #55
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It's kinda weird. My lists are about even, with I think a slight edge to the Raw side.

However, more of my top guys are on SD still. Most Notably, Eddie, Kurt, and Cena. the most notable exceptions are the two Chrises. Jericho and Benoit both fucking rock.
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Old 03-29-2004, 08:10 AM   #56
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Bradshaw...Main event...... HOLY CRAP! This is Crazy! God damn people, it's Bradshaw for ****'s sake. Man.... Im really missing the Attitude era right about now....
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Old 03-29-2004, 02:16 PM   #57
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aight I guess I should spill my tw cents on this matter...

Bradshaw in main event... the first time they tried it it was a completly pathetic. It sucked majorly.

Now they plan on pushin him again... Sure the gimmick can look good but every gimmick works for each person.

Cena has the right look for the hip hop, Big Show has the right look for... bein the Big Show, and so forth.

Bradshaw doesn't have the skill to be an impact player and that is the main thing. An impact player has to be able to do more then one crappy clothesline, a fallaway slam, a powerbomb, and that other more... big boot. An impact player needs to at least be able to talk it, walk it, make you tap and everything... Impact player needs to have the whole package. Bradshaw simply does not have it... This push I doubt will suck as bad as his first one but this one willl suck in the end and the WWE will be kickin themselves in the end for considering tryin this.
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Old 03-29-2004, 02:48 PM   #59
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Lol, whatever. Because you don't agree with me on one thing I don't know jack. No need to be assholes here, sorry I didn't know whow touchy everyone is about The Rock.
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yeah. I agree, Rock's matches put the fans to sleep and they are piss break material. And the reason why fans go nuts is because of the hidden "applause" sign. I fell asleep during his match with Austin at X7. Yawn..
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yeah. I agree, Rock's matches put the fans to sleep and they are piss break material. And the reason why fans go nuts is because of the hidden "applause" sign. I fell asleep during his match with Austin at X7. Yawn..
I knew I wasn't crazy when I said I didn't get my point across to everyone clearly enough. That's not at all what I was saying. This remark fell about 100 yards from being anything close to an insult to me.

My point wasn't that The Rock was bad. My point is that Bradshaw can be capable of putting on an entertaining match with someone like Eddie Guerrero if he can get over, and he doesn't need to be the greatest wrestler because some of the greatest entertainers of all time weren't the greatest wrestlers *COUGH*Hulk Hogan*COUGH*Ultimate Warrior*COUGH*. And I think he can, but I guess everyone disagrees with me.
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I knew I wasn't crazy when I said I didn't get my point across to everyone clearly enough. That's not at all what I was saying. This remark fell about 100 yards from being anything close to an insult to me.

My point wasn't that The Rock was bad. My point is that Bradshaw can be capable of putting on an entertaining match with someone like Eddie Guerrero if he can get over, and he doesn't need to be the greatest wrestler because some of the greatest entertainers of all time weren't the greatest wrestlers *COUGH*Hulk Hogan*COUGH*Ultimate Warrior*COUGH*. And I think he can, but I guess everyone disagrees with me.
aight I'm bored enough... so bored that I'm actually gonna work with this

I don't care what your point was at first so I'll just skip to your slightly meaty second paragraph.

The chances of Bradshaw putting on an entertaining match... we have a better chance of Spike Dudley pinnin HHH cleanly for the World Title then Bradshaw putting on an entertaining match. It does not matter who you put the guy in the ring with. The guy has more than a limited movelist. I mean Big Show has more moves he can do than Bradshaw. Bradshaw has 4 moves that he can make look anywhere tween decent to aight. 4 moves are not going to carry a good match.

Eddie can help a lot of the people with some talent to a entertaining match but Bradshaw is a hopeless case. It woulda helped is Bradshaw had some technics in his matches. A couple of submission holds but he has none. NONE! Just that big boot, clothesline, fallaway slam, and crap can't remember... powerbomb. If those four moves are going to help someone to an entertaining match, then man alive anybody can have an entertaining match. You can move slower than frozen molasses on the coldest winter night you can think of, do those four moves against someone that knows a good deal of stuff like Eddie and create an entertaining match? that ain't happenin.

And about your last comment bout Warrior and Hogan... the only problem is the time frame. Back then it was all about marks... we were marks back then... we didn't care that they couldn't wrestle worth a piece of smelly crap. Just as long as they won we were happy. Guess what? The smarks grew up ! I would be surprised too. That is why they have guys like Angle, Benoit, Jericho in the ring for us. Although Angle isn't currently wrestling but may throw down a few more here and there. We aren't marks... we want an actual match. A match with moves. A match with some technics in it. Something with interest. Bradshaw can't deliver that. Now back in the 80s he woulda been good. He woulda been better than good cause he could do more than Warrior and Hogan combined. But in these times Hogan and Warrior wouldn't be as good. That's not what we want. And that is why using Hogan and Warrior in the argument was not a good idea .

Bottom line is, Bradshaw is not mainevent material and he will not be main event material.
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