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Old 03-27-2004, 05:38 PM   #1
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why did everyone b!tch about this?
people on this board moaned and groaned about a bradshaw singles push but i mean COME ON, that was textbook perfect heel promo on SD. what could you have asked for? changed name, attire, persona, character, mic time, catchphrase. IMPACT PLAYER is what he is FOR SURE! perfect heel for SD. heck, i'm vene contemplating buying his book that he pitched.
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Old 03-27-2004, 05:41 PM   #2
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i totally agree with you.
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Old 03-27-2004, 05:41 PM   #3
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Granted the gimmick is good, but the wrestler is crap.
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Old 03-27-2004, 05:44 PM   #4
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people on this board moaned and groaned about a bradshaw singles push but i mean COME ON, that was textbook perfect heel promo on SD. what could you have asked for? changed name, attire, persona, character, mic time, catchphrase. IMPACT PLAYER is what he is FOR SURE! perfect heel for SD. heck, i'm vene contemplating buying his book that he pitched.
http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8646

You did read the above thread, right? Quite a few people liked it.
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Old 03-27-2004, 05:53 PM   #5
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why did you put a "!" in bitch?
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Old 03-27-2004, 05:59 PM   #6
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People Bitched BEFORE they saw the show and they had every right to knowing that Bradshaw as a singles never worked before. But after they saw the show, and you could see in the thread El Santo has up there, people liked the character.
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Old 03-27-2004, 06:01 PM   #7
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he's doing an exclamation gimmick. He thinks it will make him an impact player on these boards
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Old 03-27-2004, 06:10 PM   #8
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People bitched about it, because half the WWE roster can sleep through better matches than Bradshaw can put on.
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Old 03-27-2004, 06:38 PM   #9
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Old 03-27-2004, 07:06 PM   #10
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That is true sometimes.

Look at early-'90s Mark Callaway. A good gimmick made his shit ring work bearable.
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Old 03-27-2004, 07:09 PM   #11
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good gimmick. bad wrestler. and at his age, Bradshaw ain't gettin' any better.
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Old 03-27-2004, 07:18 PM   #12
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Yeah, everyone bitched about it.

Do a little bit of investigation before you open your mouth.
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Old 03-27-2004, 07:30 PM   #13
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I know Bradshaw is no Rock when it comes to cutting promos, but what the hell can The Rock do in the ring? Some of the rgeatest of all time weren't great in the ring at all.
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Old 03-27-2004, 07:53 PM   #14
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Heh, I didn't see anyone really bitching at all. And lol @ what can The Rock do in the ring. Why is The Rock being used in the same sentence as Bradshaw? Rock's matches are high-energy and high-strung, and fans get into them. That's what The Rock can do in the ring.
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Old 03-27-2004, 10:21 PM   #15
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I pride myslef of being one of Bradshaw's biggest haters but even I thought the promo and gimmick change was well done.

As everyone else has pointed out, its tough to get past the fact that its still Bradshaw getting the push. Everyone knows he's not that awesome in the ring, so its probably going to be bad.

Then again a lot of guys who are mediocre in the ring have made entertaining main eventers, so who knows?
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Old 03-27-2004, 10:22 PM   #16
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the likelyhood that I'll EVER be a Bradshaw fan are slim, but I was still impressed by Thursday.
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Old 03-28-2004, 12:05 AM   #17
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I missed it. What's his new gimmick, and whatnot
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Old 03-28-2004, 01:15 AM   #18
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I missed it. What's his new gimmick, and whatnot

He's pointing out that he's a respected financial analyst and shit like that. How he's conquered the business world and the only thing that he hasn't conquered is the wrestling world. Before he liked to drink beer and have fun, but now he wants to make an impact and shit like that. People have compared him to a modern day IRS sorta, but he's definately different than that. His promo was really good and he did a great job of explaining his character and getting heat from the crowd. Oh and I think he might be going by his actual name now, John Layfeild I think? And of course at the end of Smackdown he attacked Eddie during the match and gave him the Clothesline from Hell. Hopefully this is just a mini fued on TV until the next Smackdown PPV, and that afterwards he will take a Holly route back to the midcard.

And honestly by the way, i've always been somewhat entertained by Bradshaw, as long as he stayed in the midcard that is...
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Old 03-28-2004, 01:33 AM   #19
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He's playing a redneck stock market analyst with a new book and radio show to promote.
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Old 03-28-2004, 02:00 AM   #20
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Old 03-28-2004, 02:45 AM   #21
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I guess your a Hardcore Holly fan too
Me? HELL NO! Holly is a ****ing dick and sucks ass, I wish he would never be on WWE TV again.

Bradshaw at least knows how to cut promo's and has shown himself to have some charisma at times...

But Holly just plain sucks IMO
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Old 03-28-2004, 03:20 AM   #22
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I definitely complained when I read the spoilers, and I thought it would be terrible. He proved me wrong. I'm convinced Bradshaw is just going to get a mini main event push just to get him over and establish his gimmick solidly before he returns to the midcard. It's definitely a good move on the writers' part and it made the best out of the situation, with Farooq getting fired, thus leaving Bradshaw alone.
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Old 03-28-2004, 09:47 AM   #23
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Heh, I didn't see anyone really bitching at all. And lol @ what can The Rock do in the ring. Why is The Rock being used in the same sentence as Bradshaw? Rock's matches are high-energy and high-strung, and fans get into them. That's what The Rock can do in the ring.
Yeah and he knows five moves and they got old. It's not impossible for fans to get into a Bradshaw match, and it doesn't hurt with a guy like Eddie Guerrero carrying you and making you look better than you really are. I can see you're a huge Rock fan with your username, so sorry if I offended you.
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Old 03-28-2004, 11:52 AM   #24
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Yeah and he knows five moves and they got old. It's not impossible for fans to get into a Bradshaw match, and it doesn't hurt with a guy like Eddie Guerrero carrying you and making you look better than you really are. I can see you're a huge Rock fan with your username, so sorry if I offended you.
Im not a huge rock fan myself but even i can say his matches are much far better than Bradshaws are.I think its stupid to even compare the rock to bradshaw, why did you single the rock out anyway?You say rock only knows 5 moves that get old, well name me 5 that bradshaw uses in a match then, bet you can't!
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Old 03-28-2004, 02:17 PM   #25
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Yeah and he knows five moves and they got old. It's not impossible for fans to get into a Bradshaw match, and it doesn't hurt with a guy like Eddie Guerrero carrying you and making you look better than you really are. I can see you're a huge Rock fan with your username, so sorry if I offended you.
Yeah, because Bradshaw's every bit the showman the Rock is...
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Yeah and he knows five moves and they got old. It's not impossible for fans to get into a Bradshaw match, and it doesn't hurt with a guy like Eddie Guerrero carrying you and making you look better than you really are. I can see you're a huge Rock fan with your username, so sorry if I offended you.

Rock has proven before that he is capable of putting on great matches. He can go head to head with anyone and easily keep up. He is an excellent showmen in the ring and has really good psychology in his matches most of the time. Rock has list of good matches that prove he is more than capable of performing more than 5 moves. Rock vs Austin have all been good, Vs Hogan was a classic and Rock even got an entertaining match out of Goldberg last year I thought. He's had ladder, steel cage matches, an Iron Man Match, with HHH that have been good. While Rock isn't a Benoit in the ring, he has shown time and time again that he can put on good matches that a crowd will get into just about whenever he wants. Not to mention that he can outperform anybody on the roster with a mic in his hand.
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Old 03-28-2004, 02:31 PM   #27
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Old 03-28-2004, 03:08 PM   #29
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Everybody's missing my point. My point is that you don't have to be the best wrestler in the world to get over and be a good main eventer. Of course Bradshaw isn't even close to the Rock when it comes to showmanship, I said that before. If you don't think it's at all possible for Bradshaw to put on a good matchg with Eddie Guerrero then oh well, that's your opinion. But for now, I apologize I'm gonna stay interested with Bradshaw's push.
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Yeah and he knows five moves and they got old. It's not impossible for fans to get into a Bradshaw match, and it doesn't hurt with a guy like Eddie Guerrero carrying you and making you look better than you really are. I can see you're a huge Rock fan with your username, so sorry if I offended you.
Heh, I'm not offended, I just think your comparison is highly retarded and poorly thought out. The Rock could go out to the ring and take a shit, and that would be more over and entertaining than a Bradshaw match. (as we've seen him before, anyway) Everyone always likes to defend other wrestlers by going "LOOK AT TEH ROK, ROK ONLY HAS 5 MOVES!" But that doesn't quite work because The Rock is probably the biggest draw of all times, and is without a doubt the best micworker. Just because The Rock doesn't have a big moveset doesn't mean he can't work a match. People get into his matches. He can keep up, and he has remarkable endurance.

Anyway, you're better off comparing Bradshaw to someone with a little bit less credentials than The Rock.
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Everybody's missing my point. My point is that you don't have to be the best wrestler in the world to get over and be a good main eventer. Of course Bradshaw isn't even close to the Rock when it comes to showmanship, I said that before. If you don't think it's at all possible for Bradshaw to put on a good matchg with Eddie Guerrero then oh well, that's your opinion. But for now, I apologize I'm gonna stay interested with Bradshaw's push.
Who said it wasn't possible? Seriously, quote someone, because chances are you're imagining things heh.
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Everybody's missing my point. My point is that you don't have to be the best wrestler in the world to get over and be a good main eventer. Of course Bradshaw isn't even close to the Rock when it comes to showmanship, I said that before. If you don't think it's at all possible for Bradshaw to put on a good matchg with Eddie Guerrero then oh well, that's your opinion. But for now, I apologize I'm gonna stay interested with Bradshaw's push.

Ok you did a poor job of getting your point across, but I understand what you were trying to say. Sorry for the rant of me defending the Rock. I've said before that I've always sorta enjoyed Bradshaw. And I am also interested in his new character, I look forward to seeing how it progresses as well. If you're trying to argue that Bradshaw will probably have an entertaining match with Eddie then I agree with you. Eddie can carry people to watchable matches.
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Everybody's missing my point. My point is that you don't have to be the best wrestler in the world to get over and be a good main eventer. Of course Bradshaw isn't even close to the Rock when it comes to showmanship, I said that before. If you don't think it's at all possible for Bradshaw to put on a good matchg with Eddie Guerrero then oh well, that's your opinion. But for now, I apologize I'm gonna stay interested with Bradshaw's push.
If Bradshaw had even 1/10 the showmanship or charisma of the Rock, that'd be a different story.

Of course, that would be heavily presumptuous inasmuch as the Rock's better in-ring too.

So basically, if Rock's moveset was quite as limited as Bradshaw's (Rock has about as many FINISHERS as Bradshaw has moves), if Bradshaw had more Charisma, more showmanship, and more in-ring ability, then your point'd be valid in terms of Bradshaw.

I liked what happened on Smackdown, but one show is hardly an indication of a good push. After all, look at how the Katie Vick thing or HLA ended up.

At best, I still don't want to see Bradshaw pushed on a Main Event level. Wouldn't mind seeing him as a solid midcard Heel, but that's about it.
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Man... If I had come to these boards three years ago and said what I thought of The Rock I would've been crucified!
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Well when you make stupid comparisons between the Rock and Bradshaw, then people bitch at you, get used to it.
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Okjay, I guess I'll be prepared for everyone to bitch at me when they don't understand my point. Thanks for admitting you were being a bitch.
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No, We understand your point alright, But my freaking Gawd, It's one Promo...One Promo, Don't have your orgasism about Bradshaw Glimmick being a success until we see it play out a little bit, because this is the WWE we're talking about...
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Okjay, I guess I'll be prepared for everyone to bitch at me when they don't understand my point. Thanks for admitting you were being a bitch.
As long as you admit you were being dumbass I don't care...
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I've liked The Rock ever since he was Rocky Maivia with the pink tights, and the big untamed afro coming out of his head. Never stopped.

But that isn't necessarily why I 'bitched,' if ya wanna call it that. Alot of people have said Rock only has five moves, or something similar. But like... Bradshaw?
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Clothline from Hell....Big Boot....Fallaway Slam....Powerbomb....Wow That's Bradshaw Movelist....Four, Count'Em Four Moves!
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