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Old 09-18-2009, 11:30 PM   #41
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Really all depends on how talented the fighters actually are.. I know Wes Shivers is a good fighter, as an example.. Rampage is more the figure head but his "assistant coaches" are the one who are gonna come up with the gameplan.. I mean, with Greg Jackson on the sideline, do you really think Rashad Evans is coming up with strategy, etc??
No, but he obviously understands that you have to pick based on skill and not on who you like or think looks jacked up. Picking guys that way is what Vince McMahon does.
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:31 PM   #42
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Really all depends on how talented the fighters actually are.. I know Wes Shivers is a good fighter, as an example.. Rampage is more the figure head but his "assistant coaches" are the one who are gonna come up with the gameplan.. I mean, with Greg Jackson on the sideline, do you really think Rashad Evans is coming up with strategy, etc??
thats another thing though. rashad has greg jackson on his side, who does rampage have? obviously team rampage are gonna win a few but it won't be down to anything rampage has done at all.
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:34 PM   #43
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But, at the same time, besides training with him, it'll be based on nothing Rashad had done either.. The only reason UFC fighters are on the show is for entertainment value.. TUF made Matt Hughes a villain.. It made people realize how crazy Shamrock really was.. Etc.. The "coaches" are only there to bring star power..
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i guess, but at least when rashad is shouting advice from ringside it might actually influence what happens. rampage shouting "GET UP" 500 times isn't going to do shit.
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I think nit was more that he could tell he had made a bad match pick and that Abe couldn't do shit off his back, let alone stuff the takedown..
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It did not even look like Abe was throwing punches when the other guy was in close enough and shooting on him. It was a pretty one-sided fight. Bloody as hell, too.
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I dislike Rashad. I hope Rampage kicks his head off
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Steve Mazzagatti is such a piece of shit tho. That was massive blood loss. Should have stopped the fight, even though it wasn't in his eyes, just for safety.
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It reminded me of Lytle V Koscheck, craaaaaaazy bloooooooood
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So how far do you guys think Kimbo will go? One and done? All the way?

I'll say he wins one..then loses his second.
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Old 09-19-2009, 11:18 PM   #51
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what would you do if the judges awarded the fight to abe?
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:24 PM   #52
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Dana White would have murdered them..
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:00 PM   #53
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So yeah obv Kimbo gets dummied
No way is he ready for big Roy Nelson. I mean I heard the rumours before hand that he got taken out earlier, but really... Roys is just the worst possible matchup for him.

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Old 09-23-2009, 11:00 PM   #54
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:03 PM   #55
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so do i have to watch rampage talking shit and being the worst cornerman of all time for a season and not even get to see him potentially have his arse handed to him at the end? gutted.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:08 PM   #56
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I don't know how kimbo will be able to last past 2 minutes against Nelson. You never know though.

I say we make a pool to see how long he lasts.
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Tonight's fight was another awful fight.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:17 PM   #58
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I really can't believe they gave that fight to James.. I had Shivers ahead in both rounds..

I think Kimbo will do well against Nelson.. It looks like his ground game is 10 times better than when he was in EliteXC (thanks to Bas Rutten) and he is a monster when it comes to banging..

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Wes shut down after 2 minutes, Shivers kept striking with leg kicks
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I think i missed Rampage killing the door
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What was Rampage thinking when he picked that match?

Fight was extremely boring. One point the two of them where standing like 10 feet from each other with their hands on their knees for like 10 seconds wtf? That Mcsweeny(what an awesome name) guy was very unimpressive. For being Rashad's number 1 pick he wasn't that good at all. Striking wasn't really that fluid, his takedown defense was laughable(he basically fell over when the big dude had his ankle) and his cardio looked non existent. I see that dude being destroyed, if put in the ring with anyone with some good wrestling and a little bit of stamina.

I am seriously hoping Kimbo knocks Roy the fuck out next week. Really don't like the guy, and the Kimbo/Rampage interactions are pretty funny.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:51 PM   #62
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lol, what? There's no way I would bet against Roy Nelson in this fight. He has just as much punching power as Kimbo but he knows just about everything else as well.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:55 PM   #63
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I'm wondering if Dana's plan was to have Kimbo lose to a man that looks less than physically imposing. lol. To the casual fan that doesn't know Roy Nelson he looks like a fat slob.

Watch casuals fans say "Kimbo lost to THAT guy?"
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I really wouldn't say he has just as much punching power as Kimbo.. He only has one KO in his whole career.. Only way he wins is by taking Kimbo down..
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Yeah if it goes to the ground I can see Kimbo getting submitted fairly easily.

I'm hoping Roy tries to go out there to prove a point, and stands with Kimbo. Goes all out for the knockout while not respecting Kimbo's ko power, thus leading to him getting his face raped by Kimbo's fist's.
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I really can't believe they gave that fight to James.. I had Shivers ahead in both rounds..

I think Kimbo will do well against Nelson.. It looks like his ground game is 10 times better than when he was in EliteXC (thanks to Bas Rutten) and he is a monster when it comes to banging..

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I thought Shivers won the fight too. It was pretty even in RD1, but Shivers had him down on the ground for a while n RD 2. Fuck though, he had him in a choke, but let him out. Shivers didn't really deserve it though. He gassed very quick and just kind of stood there with his hands on his hips most of the time.

very excited for next week. I have a feeling some of you guys will be surprised. I think Kimbo will take it
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I thought Shivers won the fight too. It was pretty even in RD1, but Shivers had him down on the ground for a while n RD 2. Fuck though, he had him in a choke, but let him out. Shivers didn't really deserve it though. He gassed very quick and just kind of stood there with his hands on his hips most of the time.

very excited for next week. I have a feeling some of you guys will be surprised. I think Kimbo will take it
That choke wasn't in deep. I would have given it to Shivers too but having your hands on your knees for half the fight leaves and awful impression on the judges. Both those guys were terrible.

Roy Nelson should destroy Kimbo. All sports logic dictates Nelson tapping in the first round. Though that good old "punchers chance" thing is still in effect.
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I'll have to rewatch it. It looked like he had it in deep enough to where he could of leaned back and just taken it.

and something about this Kimbo/Nelson fight is just screaming upset to me. I feel like they are setting everyone up to think Nelson is going to kill him. we'll see.
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I'm not a Kimbo fan, nor a Roy fan, but I kind of think Kimbo wins this. I think this season of TUF will bomb if Kimbo loses. After two awful fights it's the only way. Plus, Spike TV is hyping up Kimbo big time, I think he's going the distance.
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Wes shut down after 2 minutes, Shivers kept striking with leg kicks
wes shivers is the same person
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Old 09-24-2009, 03:24 AM   #71
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I really wouldn't say he has just as much punching power as Kimbo.. He only has one KO in his whole career.. Only way he wins is by taking Kimbo down..
hes had 6 actually
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I'm not a Kimbo fan, nor a Roy fan, but I kind of think Kimbo wins this. I think this season of TUF will bomb if Kimbo loses. After two awful fights it's the only way. Plus, Spike TV is hyping up Kimbo big time, I think he's going the distance.
not to mention the coaches arent fighting anymore
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Old 09-24-2009, 04:05 AM   #73
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No he has had one. Learn the difference between a KO and a TKO. Also that edit button is there for a reason...
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if a punch drops a guy and he follows them down and finishes them with strikes, its still testimate to his KO power fucking n00b
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I have a feeling these big dudes are gonna get tired really quickly lugging all that meat around. McSweeney could have had him but I guess he was probably scared of getting knocked the fuck out so he didn't capitalize.
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Nobody said anything about his knockout power jackass. You stated that he has had 6 KO's which is false, as he has only had 1. Thanks for the new word though. Testimate lmao. Oh and I see you figured out that edit function too. Way to go kiddo.

Yeah I can see this being one of the more boring TUF, at least when it comes to the fights. So far we've had four fighters show us their skills inside the cage and I've yet to see anything slightly impressive. Hopefully things pick up next week, and considering who is fighting they definitely should.

Also just read about how John Madsen beat Brock in a high school wrestling match. Pretty neat little tidbit I thought.
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lol, what? There's no way I would bet against Roy Nelson in this fight. He has just as much punching power as Kimbo but he knows just about everything else as well.
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I really wouldn't say he has just as much punching power as Kimbo.. He only has one KO in his whole career.. Only way he wins is by taking Kimbo down..
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Pretty much what Reav said. Almost every fight I've seen Big Roy in he's knocked a guy on his ass via a huge punch. Not to say KOs and TKO are the same thing but I think my point is still proven either way.
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meh typo
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Roy Nelson has a black belt in BJJ from Renzo Gracie apparently too. Bye Kimbo.
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