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Old 09-16-2009, 06:25 PM   #1
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TUF 10 Discussion *SPOILERS*

UK viewers will not see Ultimate Fighter episodes until Saturday, so it would be appreciated if you could keep discussion in this thread, to make it easier to avoid spoilers.
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Old 09-16-2009, 06:52 PM   #2
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Gonna change the thread title..

Even is Kimbo doesn't do well, I hope some decent HW's come out of this season..
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Old 09-16-2009, 06:53 PM   #3
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Stickied it too..

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Old 09-16-2009, 06:58 PM   #4
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I assume people have already seen this but figured I'd post it if not. Features some of the first ep including Kimbo showing up




Wanna see him win the whole thing but he's got some serious odds to overcome. Rampage not doing him any favours either.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:04 PM   #5
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:10 PM   #6
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I kinda want Kimbo to do well too, but regardless I'm sure he'll fight on atleast one UFC show after TUF, even if he loses his first fight..
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:46 PM   #7
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Spike must seriously need to make up some commercial time from Fight Night with all of these random commercials with 30 seconds of show between. I hope next week isn't this way because it's almost unwatchable. I don't remember the last few seasons being this way.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:47 PM   #8
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Dialogue between Rampage and Evans reminds me of the movie Life though.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:53 PM   #9
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Bloody ass fight..
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:59 PM   #10
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That was some bitch shit.. Fake shaking the hand straight to the shot..
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:01 PM   #11
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Don't think Abe can get up Rampage
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:05 PM   #12
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I bet if Abe coulda picked getting knocked out quick or go that whole fight look like a complete joke and get a cut bad enough where people could see his skull he would have chosen the quick knock out.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:21 PM   #13
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What an awful fight. Completely one sided, no offense from Abe whatsoever. Pretty bitch move on the hand shake shot too. Doesn't really seen like Abe would've won either way but still shitty.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:27 PM   #14
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Rampage was fricking pissed too. Can't blame him though, the dude didn't even try to defend the takedown, despite knowing it was coming over and cover.

Also, the preview of Rampage destroying the door was amazing.
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:38 AM   #15
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It looked like he headbutted it and like the entire top third of it shatters..

Also, I realize it was the first episode but I'm glad they were more on training and the fight than "real world" like drunken shenanigans (which I know is coming)..
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:59 AM   #16
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Can someone post a link to this episode whenever it's up (In the MMA Group obv)
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:00 AM   #17
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I'll try to just post them all in here..
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:08 PM   #18
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Found the vid, but couldn't embed it..

Try to get it up some time today..
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:14 PM   #19
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Fuck it.. Can't find one to embed..

Here's a link..

Episode 1

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Old 09-17-2009, 12:25 PM   #20
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wow, what an awful fight by Abe. I don't understand how he didn't learn to block a takedown by the 4th time. That guy deserved to be off the show. terrible preformance.

And this Wes Sims guy. wow, what a doucebag. I can't wait to see this guy destroyed. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't he boast about having 2 consecutive victories over Frank Mir? I thought he was serious and I am thinking "wow, that's pretty good." Then I go look up the fights and the fucking guy got DQ'ed in the first fight and lost in the 2nd fight. And he doesn't even have a great MMA record. He's all talk, but seems to be a guy that can't back it up.

Kimbo is the man. love him. can't wait till he fights
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:28 PM   #21
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I think that Wes Shivers guy played football at Mississippi State and has fought here locally..
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:31 PM   #22
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Wes Shivers (born March 8, 1977 in Jackson, MS.) grew up leading a competitive life, playing several sports before focusing on football. Following a successful college football career and being selected Junior College All-American, as well as, All-SEC. The Mississippi State graduate was drafted by the Tennessee Titans. After a short stint there and with the Atlanta Falcons, Wes left the NFL in attempt at the normal life. The normal life for Wes consisted of a job in law enforcement. Although exciting at times the competitive drive Wes has was still strong and not being fulfilled.

With the undeniable rise of Mixed Martial Arts and the need for an outlet Wes began to train in one of the oldest forms of submission wrestling, Catch wrestling. It didn’t take long before one of Wes’s teachers tagged him “The Perfect Storm” not only because of his large size, but his athleticism and ability to learn quickly. Although getting started in MMA late in his life Wes has progressed at a fast pace and his humble nature enables him to improve everyday.Competing in various MMA events around Mississippi Wes Shivers came in contact with Alan “The Talent” Belcher. Belcher, believing in Shiver’s ability invited Wes to train with him. In short order Belcher helped to improve the limited skill set that Wes had. After a short time in the sport Wes arrived at a 8-1 record with a 3-1 professional record. Wes was noticed by the UFC and selected as one of the 16 heavyweights to appear as a member of The Ultimate Fighter season 10.

“I feel the skies the limit for me, the fact that I realize I have holes in my game drives me everyday. I am slowly beginning to fill those holes and improve on the natural ability God has blessed me with. I love the sport and feel that anyone that steps into the cage is special, regardless of the outcome they should be respected.”

While taking part in TUF10 Wes came in contact with Legends in the sport not to mention Dan White, president of the UFC. The experiences just confirmed the fact that the sport of MMA is definitely where Wes Shivers wants to be.

“Man its amazing, everyone I’ve come in contact with are honorable, hardworking people who are here for the love of the game and nothing more! There is no room for egos.”
Yeah, def got to pull for him now..
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:33 PM   #23
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you're talking about a different guy though, right?

I thought his name was Wes Simms
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:37 PM   #24
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Yeah, Wes "A Whole Show" Sims (LOL "a-hole show") is the douche who has fought in the UFC before.. Wes Shivers biggest fight was on an EliteXC undercard..
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Old 09-17-2009, 12:48 PM   #25
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wow, what an awful fight by Abe. I don't understand how he didn't learn to block a takedown by the 4th time. That guy deserved to be off the show. terrible preformance.

And this Wes Sims guy. wow, what a doucebag. I can't wait to see this guy destroyed. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't he boast about having 2 consecutive victories over Frank Mir? I thought he was serious and I am thinking "wow, that's pretty good." Then I go look up the fights and the fucking guy got DQ'ed in the first fight and lost in the 2nd fight. And he doesn't even have a great MMA record. He's all talk, but seems to be a guy that can't back it up.

Kimbo is the man. love him. can't wait till he fights
He also went on to say that he wont let the truth get in the way of a good story
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yea, I heard that. he's like "that guy" that we've all encountered in sports. He'll talk a huge game, always call for the ball or whatever, but he never gets the job done.
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and then that other guy (forget his name) that thought he was the "surprise" and not Kimbo. he looks like he is in poor shape. I think he's going to get killed
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Reavant, why are you not on that show? I'm pretty sure you would do a lot better this that Abe clown. I think he just gave up like 40 seconds into the 2nd round
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Roy "Big Country" Nelson was the last IFL HW Champ.. He's a pretty good banger but looked like he'd put on 40+lbs since the last time I saw him..



There is Shivers in EliteXC..
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Looking at his record, any time Nelson has faced any fighter of "note" he has lost.. Arlovski, Monson, even Ben Rothwell..
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What an awful fight. Completely one sided, no offense from Abe whatsoever. Pretty bitch move on the hand shake shot too. Doesn't really seen like Abe would've won either way but still shitty.
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Rampage was fricking pissed too. Can't blame him though, the dude didn't even try to defend the takedown, despite knowing it was coming over and cover.

Also, the preview of Rampage destroying the door was amazing.
Madsen beat Lesnar a bunch of times in high school/college wrestling, so he could have some of th greatest defense and theyd still probably look the same
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FTR, Deuce McAllister whooped Wes Shivers in a brawl at the Egg Bowl (Ole Miss Vs State) like 10 years ago..

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According to Starkville legend, Wes Shivers, a juco recruit visiting MSU during the 1997 Egg Bowl Brawl, was nothing more than an innocent bystander donning a Hinds Comm. College jacket. The legend also entails that Deuce McAllister took his helmet off and hit Wes with it and that several Ole Miss players knocked him down on his ass and then preceded to kick him.

As you will see in this video, none of that happened.

The truth is that Shivers, who incidentally went on to play for Jackie Sherrill's Bulldogs, was wearing a MSU jacket and actually made a huge mistake by running out into the middle of the field after the fight broke out. Furthermore, he ran into a group of players, grabbed Deuce McAlllister's shoulder, took a fist to the face, and landed square on his ass.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:11 PM   #36
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Nelson is a beast, and from what I hear, he's supposed to be getting an attitude adjustment (of the non Lex Luger or John Cena variety) because of his ego or whatever.

I would pick him over half the field, possibly to win it all. However, if the guy who was a #1 draft pick has any game, he could go all the way as well.

Simms seems like Junie Browning in many respects, only at least Browning can be written off as small man syndrome/inbred/meth addict. Simms is just an asshole.

I think they're gonna be dedicating several episodes strictly to Kimbo learning ground game (which is smart), his fight will be last, and whoever he's up against will rape him worst than Abe got raped.

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Im figuring he'll win his first fight but lose before the Finale.. Either way, the show is gonna pretty much mean that Kimbo will have atleast a few UFC fights at UFC events.. I mean, even if he loses his first fight, think of an UFN with him headlining.. Record ratings I'm sure.. Dana put him on the show is just the first step to letting him fight in the UFC.. Smart on Dana White's part, if you ask me..
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man rampage is a fucking awful coach. basically picked all the beefcakes and his advice is basically to do what needs doing, with no description of how to actually do it. rashad is going to piss all over him in this series.
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Really all depends on how talented the fighters actually are.. I know Wes Shivers is a good fighter, as an example.. Rampage is more the figure head but his "assistant coaches" are the one who are gonna come up with the gameplan.. I mean, with Greg Jackson on the sideline, do you really think Rashad Evans is coming up with strategy, etc??
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man rampage is a fucking awful coach. basically picked all the beefcakes and his advice is basically to do what needs doing, with no description of how to actually do it. rashad is going to piss all over him in this series.
The one who wins in the Octagon will get the last laugh. Too bad it's been rescheduled.
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