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Old 10-04-2009, 08:27 PM   #41
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If only I had never logged on to an internet message board. I could've gone on loving Bret Hart my entire life.
Think for yourself. You elude to brainwashed Hart marks and yet here you are allowing yuorself to have your opinions altered by said Hart marks. That's worse.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:27 PM   #42
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"I said I'll job to anybody on my way out except for the most popular guy in the entire company! You're not being fair!"
Oh, Steve Austin.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:28 PM   #43
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Bret Hart all the way. Funny how all you HBK marks on the forum whine about hating Bret yet your "hero" is the one who cries and loses his smile.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:44 PM   #44
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Bret Hart all the way. Funny how all you HBK marks on the forum whine about hating Bret yet your "hero" is the one who cries and loses his smile.
Are you a moron?

Do you split the world to Hart marks and HBK marks?

Can't you just fucking understand that some people might be tired of the same old bullshit for years? I'm sick of hearing about Hart and sick of watching him because of all the fucking bitching on the internet. I used to enjoy his matches but for fuck's sake.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:09 PM   #45
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Are you a moron?

Do you split the world to Hart marks and HBK marks?

Can't you just fucking understand that some people might be tired of the same old bullshit for years? I'm sick of hearing about Hart and sick of watching him because of all the fucking bitching on the internet. I used to enjoy his matches but for fuck's sake.
Aren't you sick of also watching Vince and the wwe rehashing it at every opportunity they get? Let it go already Vin man.

Oh yeah, and isn't it funny how the first person to bring up the screwjob and montreal in this thread was the guy who is sick and tired about hearing of it. Yeah, it is.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:13 PM   #46
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Aren't you sick of also watching Vince and the wwe rehashing it at every opportunity they get? Let it go already Vin man.
Vin man? What kind of a stupid insult is that?

How am I defending Vince? I think the whole screwjob in Taker vs Punk match was one of the stupidest things I've seen in wrestling lately.

I am really, really fed up with the original Montreal Screwjob shit. It's not me who should let it go.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:14 PM   #47
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Read the fucking thread before you post stupid shit. As you can clearly see it was rednoeja that brought it up, not me.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:16 PM   #48
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Vin man? What kind of a stupid insult is that?

How am I defending Vince? I think the whole screwjob in Taker vs Punk match was one of the stupidest things I've seen in wrestling lately.

I am really, really fed up with the original Montreal Screwjob shit. It's not me who should let it go.
What? It wasn't even meant to be an insult. It's what HBK always used to refer to Vince as. I was basically saying Vinnie mac is all over that shit, cant let it out of his system.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:17 PM   #49
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Read the fucking thread before you post stupid shit. As you can clearly see it was rednoeja that brought it up, not me.
I was referring to narc. Holy fuck man...you have a persecution complex.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:20 PM   #50
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Read the fucking thread before you post stupid shit. As you can clearly see it was rednoeja that brought it up, not me.

Uhhhh that'd actually be Narc that brought it up.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:26 PM   #51
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Even if Trillionaire Ted doesnt win it doesn't matter he already bought his way into the hall of fame

Great Wrestler, Great Gimmick, Great Promos, even made Virgil look good

Let me write that again HE MADE VIRGIL LOOK GOOD
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Bret gets my vote. I don't care what he did outside the ring, or what he continues to do.... but I can honestly say that he provided me with some of my favourite wrestling memories and matches inside the ring.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:22 AM   #58
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Very tough vote, you have on one side a wrestler that never won the big title in the WWF but at the same time probably is one of the best heels of all time. On the other side you have a wrestler that made wrestling into a feud between the USA and Canada and was a good wrestler with almost anyone as his opponent.

As much as I would like to vote for the Million Dollar Man, he never managed to be involved in a feud that got 2 countries to "hate" each other in a wrestling sense.
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Oh god. You know if Bret wins this Shawn Michaels wil rear his ugly head in the finals. Wait for a fucking explosion.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:23 AM   #60
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For not being a stupid Hart mark you sure jumped to his defense with 3 paragraphs of rubbish at the very mention of me claiming that I didn't like him.

I'm not even terribly against him THAT much. The guy just spent a decade bitching about something that he did to himself. You don't see how people could get pretty disgusted by that?
Not against him THAT much? You've claimed in this thread that you hate him. How much worse can it get from there?

I'm not sure what your deal is, Narc, but you're sure coming off as a pretentious douche bag here. I know you're better than that. Stop being a faggot.

That said, Bret Hart gets my vote here because I'm a blind mark for him.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:27 AM   #61
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This is why I could never vote for Bret. Let's go 56 pages about Montreal! LET'S GO!
Look at who started the bitching. Narcissus did. Out of nowhere. He's being a faggot for no reason at all. Of course Hart fans are going to defend him. Narc was talking about 'this is going to turn into this', but he was the first person to say a mother fucking word about it. You didn't help either.
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Well, I hate what he did to his own Legacy most of all. I used to love Bret Hart as a kid. His ego, his bitterness, and his inability to let anything go really just ruined him for me. I suppose I was being a shithead with the whole brainwashing deal. You can like who you like. I personally just can't cheer a guy that had everything in the world working for him and just ruined it all because he couldn't keep one day from rewinding a thousand times in his head.

This isn't up for argument, btw. Just how I feel about Montreal and Bret Hart.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:35 AM   #63
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I'm pretty sure what 'ruined it all' was mostly a misplaced kicked to the head followed by a stroke. Why hasn't Bret talked about anything besides Montreal? Maybe because that was the last thing of note in his otherwise illustrious career. What the fuck else is there to talk about? His U.S. title run? Wrestling left a bitter taste in his mouth, and nobody wants to talk to him about anything but wrestling. I know 9-11 happened 8 years ago, but are you sick of people bitching about that too?
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:36 AM   #64
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Well, I hate what he did to his own Legacy most of all. I used to love Bret Hart as a kid. His ego, his bitterness, and his inability to let anything go really just ruined him for me. I suppose I was being a shithead with the whole brainwashing deal. You can like who you like. I personally just can't cheer a guy that had everything in the world working for him and just ruined it all because he couldn't keep one day from rewinding a thousand times in his head.

This isn't up for argument, btw. Just how I feel about Montreal and Bret Hart.
Good job acknowledging what I said. He's never been given the chance to live it down, because it's brought up so much. If I was screwed over like that and it was brought up in every interview I'm in, I'd be bitter too.
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He himself made Montreal the first thing people think about when they think of Bret Hart. Nobody else.

I can watch old tapes of Hart and freak out for him but it all ruins it if I read about him now or watch one of his 10,000 interviews bitching about Montreal. Just personally why I didn't vote for him.
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I highly doubt Bret Hart goes around bitching to people in his everyday life about Montreal. The only comments we ever hear from him are wrestling-related (for pretty obvious reason). Moreover, he has apparently recently said he's open to working with WWE. If there's any truth to that, he's over it anyway.
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No other match in HISTORY had ever ended that way. Since then, the only match to end that way again was in PARODY of that one. It was actually a pretty monumental moment in wrestling history. I'm not saying that Bret was right or wrong for not wanting to job in Montreal, but the way that Vince handled the situation sort of broke down a wall in the way everybody viewed wrestling. We all KNEW it was pre-determined and we KNEW there were politics, but it had NEVER spilled over into an actual show. Pretty big deal, if you ask me.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:47 AM   #69
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I've said all I'm gonna say on this. 12 pages is unneccesary. Thrilla, I say we all calm down for a second and love each other. You should be in a wonderful mood. The Bengals beat the Browns in OT.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:50 AM   #70
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I'm calm. I just think you were being a huge faggot for no reason and it needed to be addressed. That doesn't make me love you any less.

Also, the Bengals were SUPPOSED to beat the Browns by about 900 points.

As for the actual thread premise, Bret was pretty much my hero as a child. So was the Ultimate Warrior. Looking back at matches now, the Warrior was pretty terrible. Bret's quality is still there after all this time.

DiBiase had some great moments and was a fantastic heel. He made a stable with an extremely washed up Nikolai Volkoff work. Bret was just featured in so many more high-profile matches, though.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:53 AM   #71
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I can understand the appeal of Bret Hart and I can understand why his fans back him up so passionately. I'm very stubborn about my wrestling as well. There's not a man alive that could convince me that Randy Savage is not the greatest professional wrestler that ever lived. Different perspectives.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:55 AM   #72
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Savage is definitely up there. Gotta get him in the Hall of Fame here too.
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I'm calm. I just think you were being a huge faggot for no reason and it needed to be addressed. That doesn't make me love you any less.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:31 AM   #75
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Bret has had some of the most memorable matches in history. Someone else already noted Piper, Davey Boy, Austin, Owen, Iron Man match.... that cannot be touched. They remain classic matches because they were brilliant then, and would be as well regarded if they had occured last week. They opitomise wrestling, in my opinion.

Other thing to remember is that Bulldog and Austin never had a better match with anybody. Bret made both guys with those matches. Plus, everyone knows Bret called the shots for the Bulldog match pretty much entirely, which means he wrote that dance all by himself. Piper, that was the last good match of his career and the first in a few years when it happened. this cannot all be coincidently with the same wrestler.

There is no doubting the strength of MDM's gimmick. It was one of the best ideas for a wrestling heel gimmick, along with Mr Perfect... ever. And Dibiase was brilliant in the role. Plus, you can never say anything bad about about his in-ring skill. He was consistant, and technically sound. But how many matches can anybody really remember, and if you can, how many of them do you rate as some of the best of all time?

I think you can see where I will be putting my vote.

Everyone knows Bret was Jaded to the business, particulally in his main event days, in no part helped by his crazy family... And everyone SHOULD know he was wrong to refuse the job. But Anybody Thrilla hit it on the nose, where we only hear about Bret mentioning the Montreal deal because he keeps getting asked about it, and his response is always more sensationalised than anything else he mentioned. He, by all accounts was screwed in public. But had he agreed to do as he was booked, then none of this would have occured...

All this aside, other than that one night, does it really effect his impression on camera? And OK, his WCW was lacklustre in comparison to his WWF days, but was Dibiase's any better?

I don't see where Ted holds any ground in this contest.
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