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Old 01-19-2010, 01:08 AM   #41
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The six-sided ring was more of a burden than anything else. It seemed more like a gimmick and it definitely took away from match psychology.
Seriously? THE RING was taking away from match psychology? Not the dumbass finishes, the shitty-ass buildups, the RING was taking away from match psychology?!
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:09 AM   #42
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Seriously? THE RING was taking away from match psychology? Not the dumbass finishes, the shitty-ass buildups, the RING was taking away from match psychology?!
Not to mention the talent who take spots over psychology and storytelling.
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:11 AM   #43
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Well obviously, among other things as well. I think they've at least been taking steps in the right direction the past couple weeks.

You know, minus the Nasty Boys, Scott Hall, Sean Waltman, and Bubba the Love Sponge.
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:12 AM   #44
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what the hell does that mean xero
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:13 AM   #45
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:14 AM   #46
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:14 AM   #47
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:15 AM   #48
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:15 AM   #49
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what the hell does that mean xero
He means that 90% of the roster would rather do circus stunts to get the crowd going instead of doing it the right way.
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:16 AM   #50
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Well, that isn't what you meant. I EXPLAINED IT ANYWAY, GOD DAMNIT.
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:18 AM   #51
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pretty sure i was speaking my own mind and said nothing someone else said if u could read u would see that
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:20 AM   #52
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What? bigfred419, can you utilize some puncuation please? You fucking savage.
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:23 AM   #53
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well you fucking dick, im sorry you suck and try to make everyone else feel as shitty as your life is. why dont you get a girlfriend and get laid ass clown.
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:26 AM   #54
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:27 AM   #55
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:36 AM   #57
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Forget Jordan beating the Pope, the fucking Nasty Boys beat Nash and Eric Young, with Eric Young taking the fall... Eric Young is jobbing to the fucking NAsty Boys.
yeah nothing bad is happening from Hogan coming in at all
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:52 AM   #58
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:58 AM   #59
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Every time I read the title of this thread I think of TNA fans literally being "silenced" by assassins while they are just chilling at home or something.
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Old 01-19-2010, 02:17 AM   #60
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TNA would actually have to have fans at home, Lock Jaw
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does anyone see a connection or make a connection to TNA letting fans into their product tapings for free versus WCW giving away tickets to Nitro at the Omni the night DX invaded Nitro?? Obviously there is an issue if TNA can't come up with the gumption to charge for tiketing into their TV tapings...although i'm sure with the massive changes, Hogan and Bischoff have charging prices in mind down the road for TV events and scrapping the free admission.
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what does that mean?
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:15 AM   #63
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what does that mean?
owen apparently is inferring that TNA has little to no viewers at home would be my educated guess and he's referencing to the lack of any rating above a 2.0 in their 6 year history i believe would be his substantiation??
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Hey guys. I'm one of the hardcore TNA fans who you see regularly on iMPACT! and TNA PPV. You probably recognize me as the guy who wears a shirt and tie to the shows.

I've seen a lot of posts claiming that the biggest thing wrong with TNA right now is us, the loyal fans in the iMPACT! Zone.

I'd like to give you a little perspective on things. There is a group of about 12-20 of us who are at every show we can attend (Collectively known as the "Crucial Crew", which is why you see us throw up the 'c' hand signal). And we DO NOT like the direction this company is going. Therefore, we express our displeasure in hopes that management will listen. Why? Because we LOVE TNA, and will not stand idly by while it gets raped by Hogan and his boys. If we were season ticket holders for a sports team, this would be expected, would it not?

Last night at Genesis was a major event in the growing war between the TNA loyalists and the Hoganites. I can tell you that very real battle lines are being drawn within the organization, and the conflict will get a lot worse.

Again, we LOVE TNA. So when a man who built his career and reputation on WWF Sports Entertainment comes in, changes the things that make TNA unique and basically tells us that the TNA model is broken and that "the smart marks in the front" (read Hogan's IGN interview) don't matter, aren't representative of mainstream America and so should be ignored- Yeah, we're gonna be pissed.

Last night was remarkable in that for the first time ever a TNA producer came down into the pit where we stand, grabbed my friend by the shirt and actually threatened to ban us from the building if we didn't stop with the "vulgarity and the negativity". From reports, this heat came directly from "Dixie and Terry who were pissed that we didn't put Morely over during his match with Daniels. Are you kidding? This happened during the Pope v Wolfe match, and totally killed the crowd. If you were wondering why the crowd was so dead during what was a great wrestling match, that's why.

Here's the thing though... We've become friends with a lot of the wrestlers, and they all love our energy, enthusiasm and passion, and have and continue to support us. The production crew, who takes heat directly from the top, HATE us, most likely because they are all afraid for their jobs.

Also, all of the Bubba Army idiots and other Hogan marks are now in the iMPACT! Zone and act like the complete tools they are. Oh, but THEY don't get scolded like 5-year olds, even though they are the most offensive people there.

I saw hundreds of people walk out on the show last night, something i've NEVER seen at a PPV. Things are getting weird. Hopefully, Bischoff and Russo are smart enough to use this tension to create compelling TV, but from my perspective, it seems like TNA is dying right before my eyes.

Want some compelling TV? Wait until the entire pit revolts and empties into the ring on live TV. The way things are going, this is not altogether inconceivable.

Rest assured, the Crucial Crew will fight to the end for the TNA we know and love!
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"Want some compelling TV? Wait until the entire pit revolts and empties into the ring on live TV. The way things are going, this is not altogether inconceivable."

I want to see this, and I want to see this badly.

Specifically during a Hogan promo.
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loyalty to brands/products is great....but the guy really has no room to bitch when he gets into the product every week for FREE....and even if he did pay for a ticket....every ticket to a sporting event has a disclaimer having for the management of the event or the management of the building to remove you from the event at anytime with no refund of purchase of ticket price for any actions, statements, gestures that they may deem inappropriate or a distraction to other ticket holders. Not to mention that there are kids in the show, i've seen them before....he has no right to whine about using profanity or vulgarity....and i'm sure TNA has some sort of disclaimer posted in the building that they have the right to remove you from the event for any reason at anytime without disclaimer to you objecting or having a right to remain at the event. In my opinion the dude has no grounds for bitching...its the liability he assumes for attending the event.
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Seriously, the SHOULD charge for tickets and/or get out of the Impact Zone.

It'll cut down on the retards who amuse themselves chanting for the popcorn vendor. If you're bitching about the sides of the ring, you're fucking retarded.

Nothing shocking with Orlando Jordan and the Nastys. Nothing.

Outside of that, honestly, It's a good idea to have shows held outside of the Impact Zone and to promote your shows as WRESTLING. That's actually a good idea from Hogan. Cut down on the stupid backstage shit, and focus on the in-ring product.
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If TNA wants to be taken seriously, they need to look like an actual fucking wrestling show and tour the country and perform in actual arenas.
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I'm a big fan of the switch back to a traditional ring. It just makes it easier for me to concentrate on the action, and given the dimensions, makes the matches more enjoyable to me.
I just feel like it's too cramped and awkward in the six sided ring. Even if it's not, and the dimensions technically include the same area, it just always bothered me.

So I'm good with that. Val Venis going over Daniels....um, not so much. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that Val Venis hasn't done anything but job on Heat for 10 years...and the fact that Daniels is one of their best homegrown talents who was in a PPV world title match last month...
In a hypothetical scenario of a 1998 Val Venis picking up a victory against Daniels, I'd still consider it an upset and not really the best decision.
Really no excuse for that.
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Is TNA fucking nuts?

1) They SHOULD be charging an entry fee, don't they need money? Second of all if its free you can get an old hobo turning up just for warmth (insert Scott Hall joke here).

2) Censoring the crowd? First of all are TNA so dumb that they think they can just ask the fans nicely and they will calm down? If that worked then Vince would have come out at ONS2 and asked the fans kindly not to riot. If its free to get in then why the fuck would I care about getting kicked out?

I can see exactly why the fans are shouting and gesturing what they are, can TNA really not see why this stuff is getting shat on?

I would say TNA is majorly underestimating its fan base here, and it will turn round and bite them in the arse if they are not carefull. Shame I live in the UK, would quite like to see the impact zone before it gets turned into WWE Universe HQ.


On a side note, THE 6 SIDED RING IS OUT OF HERE!!! Wooooooooooo.

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Note from Ryan Clark: Again Bubba, go away. You sound lame and immature.
Something about this just screams pot and the fucking kettle.
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People it's a known fact that ever since TNA has filmed at/in Universal Studios they have let people in for free.

It's a Universal Studio thing not a TNA being completely inept thing.
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And that guy in the Crucial Crew is an even bigger tool then Bubba's army and Hogan marks.
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If TNA wants to be taken seriously, they need to look like an actual fucking wrestling show and tour the country and perform in actual arenas.
I have my doubts they could get anywhere near a decent crowd for real arenas on a regular basis.
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I think they could do it. It would take a hell of a lot of work (which would have to start now) and tweaking to their production and such, but it could be done.
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TNA do tour, they just dont film those shows


also i think its pretty obvious that the audience dictates who they like and who they don't like, you know freedom of speech and all that.

tna should be breaking their backs to please the audience, they are NOT cast members.

except 'Beard Money Guy' who im nearly 100% sure got the telling off in the first place
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Why is anyone taking sides on this? Both TNA, and it's fans are fucking batty.
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There are less batty fans than there are "fucking insane" figure heads in TNA.
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People it's a known fact that ever since TNA has filmed at/in Universal Studios they have let people in for free.

It's a Universal Studio thing not a TNA being completely inept thing.
I stand corrected.
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