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Old 06-07-2010, 05:08 PM   #1081
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that was some pretty powerful stuff. i need a moment to reflect.
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:15 PM   #1082
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Doesn't matter. Only missable is the I Know You missions. You own't get 100% before that event anyway.
I've finished the I Know You Missions, and I still have no idea who that asshole in the top hat is/was. Clearly though,
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Old 06-07-2010, 05:41 PM   #1083
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What's the deal with the California stranger mission? I'm almost done with the story and its never popped up on my map.
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Old 06-07-2010, 06:02 PM   #1084
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I've finished the I Know You Missions, and I still have no idea who that asshole in the top hat is/was. Clearly though,
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A lot of theories are abound that he's God, the Devil, one of the Angels of Death/Judgment, or simply John's conscience. I doubt we'll ever get answers, but I'm not sure his talk about his son growing up to kill as easily as Marston, nor the fact that his response to "Damn You" is "Many have" fit either with God or a ghost of someone from John's past.

I do think someone was either testing or tormenting him, but I'm not sure it was someone from his past.

Also, I think it's kinda cool that the last place you see him is so significant in the end.
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Old 06-07-2010, 06:09 PM   #1085
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Can't get the Army scrap or Marshall outfits until you start the game with Jack Marston..
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:34 PM   #1086
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Thanks for the spoiler, champ.
Jack is another name for John.

Anyways, Bounty Hunting sucks. 40+ bounties and you gotta 1 at each of the select areas in each region. 8 spots on the frontier, 8 in mexico, 4 up north.
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Old 06-07-2010, 11:53 PM   #1087
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I used to be able to commit minor crimes up to 1 murder. Now if I do anything in town I am arrested. Anyone know why? I haven't changed outfits or anything.
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Old 06-08-2010, 12:19 AM   #1088
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I used to be able to commit minor crimes up to 1 murder. Now if I do anything in town I am arrested. Anyone know why? I haven't changed outfits or anything.
What are your Honor and Fame levels like? I think it depends on where you stand in one or both of those categories, i.e. if your honor level is real low, you might get a notice in the upper corner of the screen warning you that if you commit any crimes whatsoever, you'll be pursued or whatever. Dunno for sure though, just what I feel to be a pretty well-educated guess.
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Old 06-08-2010, 02:38 AM   #1089
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:58 AM   #1090
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I think, too, another thing is that it varies from town to town in the game as to how you're percieved based on your previous actions on prior visits. For example if you killed a bunch of people, or robbed the bank or whatever too much, even though your honor and fame might be pretty high, the people of that town might look down on you and the law there may pursue you relentlessly with even the slightest slip-up. At least that's how I think it works.
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What's the deal with the California stranger mission? I'm almost done with the story and its never popped up on my map.
He's found by a rock to the north of The Scratching Post by some archways. He plays a harmonica. He can most often be found in the daytime however, reports of him showing up at the same location for the first encounter have been reported at 8:50pm, 11:00pm, and 2:00am.

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Old 06-08-2010, 08:07 AM   #1092
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I used to be able to commit minor crimes up to 1 murder. Now if I do anything in town I am arrested. Anyone know why? I haven't changed outfits or anything.
Had the same thing. Said I wouldn't get a wanted rating for anything short of murder.

Stole a horse, WANTED.
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:45 AM   #1093
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Had the same thing. Said I wouldn't get a wanted rating for anything short of murder.

Stole a horse, WANTED.
I ran over a dog on my horse by accident because it ran out in front of me while I was riding out of town. WANTED. $5 freaking dollar bounty. For running over a stupid dog!
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:48 AM   #1094
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I ran over a dog on my horse by accident because it ran out in front of me while I was riding out of town. WANTED. $5 freaking dollar bounty. For running over a stupid dog!
Yeah, I hate those suicidal dogs.
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:54 AM   #1095
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Yeah, I hate those suicidal dogs.
Seriously. It's the boney brown ones that look about ready to die anyways, and if they are dumb enough to run in front of a moving horse, it's their own damn fault. $5 bounty, ffs!
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Had the same thing. Said I wouldn't get a wanted rating for anything short of murder.

Stole a horse, WANTED.
Apparently at certain levels of honor and fame you get perks, which you lose if you go up or down.

Thats fucking bullshit because that was the best one, now the I have I guess is Lawman take twice as long to "hunt me down"

I have had like $400 bounty for most of the game and they only hunted me down once and I easily eluded them.
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:50 AM   #1097
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Seriously. It's the boney brown ones that look about ready to die anyways, and if they are dumb enough to run in front of a moving horse, it's their own damn fault. $5 bounty, ffs!
yeah, but the game doesn't buy "it was an accident!" As an excuse.

Fortunately, I've got more money than I know what to do with. I'm tempted to just buy up all the horse deeds. No need to, just...Something to do with it.

I also hate how in SP, you can sometimes get a bounty with no witnesses.
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:55 AM   #1098
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It was great with the no bounty thing, lined up 15 people on the train tracks
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:14 AM   #1099
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It was great with the no bounty thing, lined up 15 people on the train tracks
Hahaha I want to see this in video form now. Better yet, hogtie an entire gang and line them all up on the tracks.

I wonder if you'd get good fame and honor for it or if the lawmen will run over and try to free the guys before the train hits like they do when you put a woman on the tracks?
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A lot of theories are abound that he's God, the Devil, one of the Angels of Death/Judgment, or simply John's conscience. I doubt we'll ever get answers, but I'm not sure his talk about his son growing up to kill as easily as Marston, nor the fact that his response to "Damn You" is "Many have" fit either with God or a ghost of someone from John's past.

I do think someone was either testing or tormenting him, but I'm not sure it was someone from his past.

Also, I think it's kinda cool that the last place you see him is so significant in the end.
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I am of the opinion that it is the devil. Many have "damned" the devil as well. I would assume the devil knows marston better than god would, given how much of a sinner he is. Also, the missions you do, parallel the temptations of christ.
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I got a bounty on me after I punched a police horse

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I would say that he is most certainly a ghost from Marstons past, probably someone he knew and gunned down during a job. If you read the newspapers, it says how some towns have reported ghost sightings.

Plus, looking at the guides it says you cant complete the mission once you are in control of Jack, so its definately someone John knew.
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I am of the opinion that it is the devil. Many have "damned" the devil as well. I would assume the devil knows marston better than god would, given how much of a sinner he is. Also, the missions you do, parallel the temptations of christ.
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I'm tempted (no pun intended) to agree. Though the Angels of Death are often portrayed as testing the soon to die, so I could see an argument there. The reminder that he will be held accountable makes me think of the Devil, though. Technically, he doesn't sit in judgment, but he doesn'tneed to. He seems to be reminding Marston that he's a bad man, something I doubt God would do, even Old Testament God.
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I would say that he is most certainly a ghost from Marstons past, probably someone he knew and gunned down during a job. If you read the newspapers, it says how some towns have reported ghost sightings.

Plus, looking at the guides it says you cant complete the mission once you are in control of Jack, so its definately someone John knew.
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The ghosts regard Tumbleweed and only tumbleweed as far as I know, a place supposedly haunted and one the stranger never appears in.

The second point is just kind of...Dumb. Why would any of the other theories be invalidated by not being able to complete it as Jack? Would God/The Devil/Any other party in charge of judgment or testing John test Jack about John's sins, test his character, or foreshadow his upcoming (past for Jack) death?
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:53 PM   #1105
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Poker is still way tough for me even when wearing the Elegant Suit (allows you to cheat at Poker). The fucking right thumbstick is way too sensitive no matter what I set the default sensitivity slider to under Options, and 90% of the time I end up getting called out for a fucking duel for cheating, and I have to load up my last save.

The swapping out cards once I have my hand made isn't nearly so tough though. I have a feeling it'll still be a bitch to win at a hand in Blackwater for that one outfit scrap however.
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:06 PM   #1106
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How do you have trouble playing poker? Cheating makes it even easier. I did the blackwater scrap without even cheating.
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:26 PM   #1107
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How do you have trouble playing poker? Cheating makes it even easier. I did the blackwater scrap without even cheating.
I was mainly referring to just when Marston's dealing the cards, and you hit "Y" and, I dunno, maybe it's just me but that slider is fucking slippery as hell, and I just have a terrible time keeping it out of the red zones that tips off someone at the table.
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:36 PM   #1108
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:54 PM   #1109
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I'm yet to cheat at poker. Seriously, poker's fucking easy in this game.
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:56 PM   #1110
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I'm not saying it's not easy for the most part. Just I'll narrow the field down to me and one other dude and no matter how smart I play, cheating or not, I end up fucking busting out.
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:15 PM   #1111
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I've only busted out once, and poker's not even a game I particularly consider myself good at.
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:45 AM   #1112
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I find it easier to win poker without cheating. The game is to predictable.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:27 AM   #1113
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How do you have trouble playing poker? Cheating makes it even easier. I did the blackwater scrap without even cheating.
Likewise. You can bluff the AI so easily and theyll either fold or take the bait like idiots. Took out 2 players in 1 hand with a pair of 3's while the AI had a King High and a pair of 2's. The only pain is beating that last guy, because a majority of the time they just reraise on every hand.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:28 AM   #1114
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I'm yet to cheat at poker. Seriously, poker's fucking easy in this game.
Cheating isn't worth it anyways because if they catch you, all your winnings go away and you have to duel the guy who catches you.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:30 AM   #1115
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Cheating isn't worth it anyways because if they catch you, all your winnings go away and you have to duel the guy who catches you.
That, right there made me so fucking angry.

I got caught when the last fucker had 20 in chips left.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:54 AM   #1116
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That, right there made me so fucking angry.

I got caught when the last fucker had 20 in chips left.
Yea, the first time I used the elegant suit was after I bought it in Thieves Landing. Played poker there and got the first 3 of 5 guys out and then cheated once and didn't get it and the Asian guy at the table wigged out and called me a fuckin' cheat. Next thing I know we're dueling and all my chips are gone. Was so pissed. That's why I love liar's dice so much. So much easier to bullshit the AI.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:59 AM   #1117
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I haven't figured out liar's dice yet.
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:26 AM   #1118
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REALLY? Dude, what about it is confusing you? You just have to know how to call the AI's bullshit.
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:37 AM   #1119
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REALLY? Dude, what about it is confusing you? You just have to know how to call the AI's bullshit.
I played it once and I guess I just didn't understand how it work.
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