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Old 03-08-2011, 05:22 PM   #81
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You mean tweeting, arguably the worlds most popular form of pop culture social networking?
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:24 PM   #82
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Yes.

I don't like the idea of this back and forth thing where whoever doesn't show up on RAW, responds via Twitter.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:26 PM   #83
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Only one person involved that might not show up on RAW. And it'd be quite short-sighted to not use Twitter/Facebook/the internet 'in this day and age'.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:29 PM   #84
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They've been using the Internet and the Social Networks for a long time now...

...but, it's kind of "sissy" to respond via Twitter. I just don't like it.

My opinion, of course.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:35 PM   #85
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Exactly. And I could see you thinking it was 'sissy' if what they were doing was real but yah, whatever Trevor.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:43 PM   #86
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You are on "The People's Wrestling Website", not the thuganomics website.

I am loving Rock's return, first WWE I have watched in months.

The problem with this fued is that The Rock outshines Cena just by being in the same state, even via satelitte lol.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:47 PM   #87
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Holy shit @ this thread

and they say kayfabe is dead
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:13 PM   #88
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I don't think its unreasonable to say that both guys are being at least somewhat disingenuous.

Cena's most fair point is that the Rock says he loves the business but completely distanced himself from it. But even that's hokey at best. I guess the best example I could come up with would be a former pro football player trying to make it in MMA ala Herschel Walker. Yeah, you're known for football but you're trying to make a new career. You don't want to be the football player trying to do MMA, you want to be an MMA fighter, so in that regard, I understand. Could he have done it? Sure. Did he have to? Fuck no. Anyone who says "Oh well he should have at least made appearances" need to check their sense of entitlement at the door. I've loved some of my previous jobs but I'm not going back for cameo appearances. Cena also sounds retarded saying "You left US hanging to play a fairy with a tooth" Rock didn't owe WWE or anyone else anything. They made him rich and in turn he made them truckfuls of money. Cena may be the face of the company but that is a retarded statement - whether directed or not. Let's not forget this man made 12 rounds and the marine. Not exactly smash hits.

As for the Rock, those points have been touched upon. You can't swear undying loyalty and just drop off. Which is not to say he owed WWE matches, promos, etc but its hypocritical to now claim love when you ran from the business when acting came along.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:20 PM   #89
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and they say kayfabe is dead
None of what I said implies that I believe what is being said on TV is reality.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:33 PM   #90
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As a wrestling fan of 20 years, I always felt the rock ditched what made him important, without wrestling he'd still be sitting at home in his parents apartment in Florida. At least stone cold shows up occasionally, and hearing his induction to the hall of fame brought a tear to my eye because you could tell he was genuine with the opportunity that was given to him. Rock just seems fake with everything he says, its hard to take anything he says legitimately when it comes to the wrestling business from his promos to when he inducted his family into the HoF. Even Brock has high regards for WWE and what it brought him and he recognizes without it he would not be where he is now.

Cena's promos are spot on, oh well, i'll continue to watch the rocks promos via satellite.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:43 PM   #91
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and they say kayfabe is dead
Way to repeat what Supreme said.

And they say 'immitation of more intelligent posters' is dead.

Like I said - I don't think this Rock/Cena rivalry is a complete work. Worked shoots aren't completely out of the question. Examples of this? Bret Hart's promo with Shawn Michaels when Bret first returned to the WWE last year. How about Paul Heyman's promo towards Vince before Survivor Series 2001? What about Kurt Angle and Jeff Jarret? What about Shawn Michaels and Hulk Hogan in 2005?.....or Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart in 1997?

Besides - since when did this thread become about whether this is 'kayfabe' or not? This thread was about The Rock......and if we should blame him for leaving the WWE? Tremendous cases were made by both sides. Personally? While I feel that The Rock never owed the WWE anything, it was a bit strange that he never once made a live appearance between 2005 and 2010......for a business that he supposedly loves so much. 2003 and 2004 was proof that The Rock could work a full Hollywood schedule and make sporadic appearances on an annual basis. So what changed after 2004? (especially after the WWE started struggling....and could have used his help).
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Exactly.

Sometimes Juan criticizes just for the sake of criticizing.

It's his gimmick.
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I was never a huge Rock fan, never very sad when he went away and never marked like a bitch when he came back.

I don't "blame" the rock for leaving but held against the promo he gave after Austin walked out where he said he had WWE in his blood and he would be coming to the ring until he was old and gray, it seems pretty rich that he's adopted this "wrestling is something I used to do, and oh by the way it's Dwayne now," it doesn't endear me to him at all.
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Old 03-09-2011, 03:52 PM   #94
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Shit no I don't blame The Rock.

If The Rock had stuck around he would have carried the company around with 1 maybe 2 other dudes and then ended up jobbing to Cena anyway in an attempt to put him over.

WWE is without names like Austin, Rock, even HHH/Taker etc. not being on full time or broken up schedules or what have you and guys like John Cena only accentuate it when stepping forth as what the WWE has mustered up to fill that void.

Man seriously the only difference between John Cena and the rest of the roster right now is that WWE has actually decided what to do with him. Once they stop being retarded and giving a guy a title match/defense one PPV and having him fight Kofi Kingston or some shit the next for the whatever belt (seriously, the belts are just whatever now) hopefully that will change.

I will admit I didn't really think much of Miz at first, I thought he was just glorified suck but he knows how to work the crowd pretty well and people are already singing along, his popularity will continue to snowball. There are also some pretty good stars in there, Wade Barrett, Alberto Del Rio, just to name a couple. I don't see what is going on here with all the booking and retarded directionless crap but to make a long story short, Cena doesn't really belong where he is at the top of a company.

As soon as someone makes a real effort to establish some sort of direction for all this talent that they badly need (and have which is what blows my mind) I really doubt John Cena is going to fit much into the equation.

What I'm interested in though seriously is what the point of this whole thing is. Naturally you have Wrestlemania hype and that's great or whatever but if you have a Cena/Miz main event hype up the main event of that. You don't need to insert The Rock into the equation to get your main event and you certainly don't need to do it to promote Wrestlemania because you could have just as easily had The Rock come out and take the mic, say "Hey doods, ya Rock is gonna be at WM man it's gonna be hot peace" and drop the mic and leave and it would do fine.

So why set them against each other. I think Cena is garbage just like 90% of people who watched wrestling a decade ago (maybe we're old men) but I don't see what point this serves. It's not like it's going to give Cena any kind of rub whatsoever. Rock is one of the greatest of all times and well, Cena just isn't. Only thing it can do is bury Cena.

So what's the logic here. Does anyone even know what's going on. Is this some personal shit The Rock got his panties wadded up about (when Cena said whatever he did about The Rock leaving WWE) and kept his panties wadded up about for years, is this Cena trying to gauge himself, I mean really, what's going on here.

Between the two of them there's no way in hell Cena can be this delusional about how he measures up to The Rock so is this thing actually heated or is it all storyline?
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Old 03-09-2011, 03:55 PM   #95
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I was never a huge Rock fan, never very sad when he went away and never marked like a bitch when he came back.

I don't "blame" the rock for leaving but held against the promo he gave after Austin walked out where he said he had WWE in his blood and he would be coming to the ring until he was old and gray, it seems pretty rich that he's adopted this "wrestling is something I used to do, and oh by the way it's Dwayne now," it doesn't endear me to him at all.
That's true and all but he was getting at the fact that Austin just didn't show up. It's a bit different just not showing up to work than giving a couple weeks notice or whatever.

Rock never did that. He stayed behind, ran titles, and put a lot of dudes over (not to say he didn't bury any!).

It was also at a different time in the business. I mean there was context to what Rock said. There is no context to what Cena said at all, at least not that I can see which is why I'm wondering what's going on, is all this happening really because some new guy got a big head and felt like trash talking someone, I don't really know.
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Because thew rock says he loves the WWE and won't leave, Cena doesn't buy it. Thats why Cena is calling him out.

Cena beat Rock, end of story.
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