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Old 05-11-2011, 11:42 PM   #1
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Okay, I feel like I need to clarify, I am not on that guy's side. My thoughts are totally separate. The Great Khali... come on...
That was mostly directed at Wolfpack because he himself mentioned Khali by name. I see what you're saying, and I know you're a different person.
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"Zis #1-wwf-fan he is outrageoussss"
... that is an eerie resemblance...
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I actually posted that before your reply... but yeah... I find him to be in the middle til proven otherwise.

Though I would enjoy seeing him come about and flourish on Smackdown because I feel he has the "superstar look". I just wanna see him prove something.
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lol. Wait... "Whatever it is doesn't appear to be what WWE look for?" Umm... I don't know if you've noticed but Alex Riley isn't exactly a huge star yet. Let's not deem him "what the WWE is looking for." So fair, the WWE seems to be leaning more toward my opinion.

He has shown more charisma and mic skills than the rest of the NXT guys. A group that produced some promos that are notoriously awful. lol. But I've seen the guy cut a promo. His promo on Raw was FINE. But it certainly didn't stand out. And I've seen him cut some pretty shitty promos.

I like the guy. Simply for the fact that I haven't seen anything to dislike him yet. But I think people are too high on him at the moment is all. I think people are trying to exaggerate his skills. I've seen the same with plenty of guys. But claiming he's such a "good wrestler" is crazy unless you've seen some indy stuff I haven't (Which is totally possible. I just think this should be brought to light. lol) He hasn't had a good, even decent match in WWE to showcase it but people are praising his wrestling skills. It doesn't take an insane amount of skill to work a 4 minute WWE style match at the moment.
They quite obviously see something in him. He's been linked on TV to the #1 pushed heel in the company/WWE champion for however many months since NXT finished, not to mention exchanges with Austin, Rock and so on. Those spots don't get given to anybody (especially those that get themselves arrested not long after going up to the main roster) and they aren't afraid to change things when a guy is struggling. No sign of either with Riley. WWE definitely don't appear to be seeing things from your 'point of view'. You seem to be looking at this from some kind of 'workrate!' pov as opposed to an actual wrestling business point of view, as referenced throughout the rest of your response (the last 2 lines, really?)

As for 'people are too high on him', no idea what you mean. I've been riding his nuts for a while but even that's only been 3 or 4 mentions over the space of about 8 months. I don't really recall many/any others doing the same until this thread appeared.
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They quite obviously see something in him. He's been linked on TV to the #1 pushed heel in the company/WWE champion for however many months since NXT finished, not to mention exchanges with Austin, Rock and so on. Those spots don't get given to anybody (especially those that get themselves arrested not long after going up to the main roster) and they aren't afraid to change things when a guy is struggling. No sign of either with Riley. WWE definitely don't appear to be seeing things from your 'point of view'. You seem to be looking at this from some kind of 'workrate!' pov as opposed to an actual wrestling business point of view, as referenced throughout the rest of your response (the last 2 lines, really?)
Him being linked to the #1 heel in the company means absolutely nothing. Let's be real. Cena DESTROYED him on Raw. They didn't even give him a chance. He's been booked to be weak as hell. Wade Barrett was considered the top heel in the companylast summer. Who was linked with him? David Otunga... Michael McGillicutty... how much did it do for their careers?
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Him being linked to the #1 heel in the company means absolutely nothing. Let's be real. Cena DESTROYED him on Raw. They didn't even give him a chance. He's been booked to be weak as hell. Wade Barrett was considered the top heel in the companylast summer. Who was linked with him? David Otunga... Michael McGillicutty... how much did it do for their careers?
Do you happen to remember the very first appearance of Johnny Nitro? He was Bischoff's lackey, was a complete joke, and lost every match by a landslide. I remember specifically him getting squashed by Eugene. That same guy is now John Morrison.
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Do you happen to remember the very first appearance of Johnny Nitro? He was Bischoff's lackey, was a complete joke, and lost every match by a landslide. I remember specifically him getting squashed by Eugene. That same guy is now John Morrison.
Exactly!!!

Have you read the rest of my posts?

So now, we're supposed to assume that anyone who is "a complete joke, loses every match by a landslide" and is squashed by nobodys are supposed to be the next John Morrisons? (Ignoring the fact that John Morrison DID come along later and just assuming that everyone who does that WILL come along?) Apparently so. And that proves my point.
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I think he has at least proven that he is not the worst wrestler today. Whether he'll ever become as big as Mo from Men on a Mission is anybody's guess.
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:55 PM   #12
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I've been a big Riley fan since NXT. He was in some good matches there, mostly with Kaval.
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Of all the horrible wrestlers in the E and TNA, some choose to hate a guy that actually has potential to be great?
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He's not great and headlining PPV's now Narc so it doesn't matter about silly things like potential ya dig
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We are all missing the most important part of Wolfpack's post. He spoiled the Impact results for me. My week is ruined.
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If you're confused Dave, Alex Riley will NOT be appearing on Impact this week.
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Also, Santino got arrested. And then was the runner up in the Royal Rumble. And now is a jobber again. You're putting entirely too much into WWE's booking process. Whatever NXT guy in season 2 they viewed as the "most Miz-like" they would have done the exact same storyline. You can't honestly argue that point.
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What? Nobody is assuming that about everybody. That is an absolutely ridiculous argument. I didn't say that nor did anybody else. We're saying that Riley has potential because we believe he does. I wouldn't say the same thing about Jackson Andrews, Mason Ryan, Joe Hennig, Otunga, etc because they aren't looking too sharp to me. Riley has a solid look, is comfortable on the mic (could use some more time), and comfortable in the ring as well. He's only going to improve also. I think he's got something, personally.

Stop making these wild sweeping generalizations.
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What? Nobody is assuming that about everybody. That is an absolutely ridiculous argument. I didn't say that nor did anybody else. We're saying that Riley has potential because we believe he does. I wouldn't say the same thing about Jackson Andrews, Mason Ryan, Joe Hennig, Otunga, etc because they aren't looking too sharp to me. Riley has a solid look, is comfortable on the mic (could use some more time), and comfortable in the ring as well. He's only going to improve also. I think he's got something, personally.

Stop making these wild sweeping generalizations.
I actually said that I was making no assumptions. Just saying that AT THIS POINT he hasn't shown anything. You threw in the fact that someone who was failing miserably ended up doing really well. In a discussion about why someone I don't see anything about should succeed... that sounds like ASSUMING to me.
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Also because I would bang Riley and Morrison.
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Not that Mason Ryan is ugly or anything. He's just... I dunno. Wouldn't be into it.
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How about Ezekiel Jackson? Everyone that he does, he dominates them.
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You made a statement about how the WWE is doing nothing with him right now. I gave you an example as to why that isn't an accurate thing to go off of. Would you like more? I seem to remember a Deacon, a Dentist, and a Ringmaster who they were "doing nothing with" for awhile.

What I was trying to allude to, is that wins/losses aren't a very good indicator on talent. Nobody is saying that because he is losing, he's going to be a big star. That's ridiculous. He's got size, he is mobile, he's got charisma, and he's linked to one of the biggest heels in the company. One could definitely argue that they are definitely "doing something" with him right now in his current role.
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You made a statement about how the WWE is doing nothing with him right now. I gave you an example as to why that isn't an accurate thing to go off of. Would you like more? I seem to remember a Deacon, a Dentist, and a Ringmaster who they were "doing nothing with" for awhile.

What I was trying to allude to, is that wins/losses aren't a very good indicator on talent. Nobody is saying that because he is losing, he's going to be a big star. That's ridiculous. He's got size, he is mobile, he's got charisma, and he's linked to one of the biggest heels in the company. One could definitely argue that they are definitely "doing something" with him right now in his current role.
I only mentioned WWE doing nothing with him as a reason why WWE doesn't "obviously see something in him" in response to someone else. Not as a reason why he will never amount to anything. Again... go back and read the posts first.
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Alex Riley has survived a DUI, being technically "fired" from his position and a draft to remain on RAW aligned with The Miz. I'm really sorry, but if you don't think someone in the WWE sees dollar signs on the mans pores under a microscope, you're not looking at this right.

And personally, I've been very impressed with Riley. That spot at the Royal Rumble was indeed awesome, and Riley always puts himself in the right position and has some awesome facial expressions that actually don't steal the show -- but add something to it.

I'm very curious to see where things go with Riley. He seems like a natural heel, but this Miz/Riley stuff seems like it could lead to a break-up, no?
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So... him "surviviing" being "drafted" from Raw to Smackdown to remain on Raw aligned with The Miz means something to you.

You realize the draft isn't real, right? lol. He was written to be drafted over to Smackdown. It wasn't like there was some crazy draft that messed up WWE's plans and they were like "Fuck it! This man's a star! We're gonna keep him on Raw aligned with The Miz dammit!!!"

Just the fact that you alluded to him "surviving a draft to remain on Raw aligned with The Miz" just... I don't even know what to say about that. Jesus Christ. lol
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So... him "surviviing" being "drafted" from Raw to Smackdown to remain on Raw aligned with The Miz means something to you.

You realize the draft isn't real, right? lol. He was written to be drafted over to Smackdown. It wasn't like there was some crazy draft that messed up WWE's plans and they were like "Fuck it! This man's a star! We're gonna keep him on Raw aligned with The Miz dammit!!!"

Just the fact that you alluded to him "surviving a draft to remain on Raw aligned with The Miz" just... I don't even know what to say about that. Jesus Christ. lol
No, the fact is the WWE has plans for him on SmackDown! -- yet they still want to use him on RAW. Jesus Christ. lol

Pull your head out of your ass an realise that people in management see dollar signs in A-Ri.

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Also, I could say the same about him being "technically fired" from his position. Again... you realize it was a storyline. He wasn't ever actually fired. WWE didn't have to work around it to "keep him employed as Miz' apprentice". He didn't "survive" anything. Seriously. This is all proving my point of people wanting to add significance to someone and make a new "obvious future star."
You could, but it'd make you a retard. The WWE planned to scrap Riley from his role, but then said "Oh shit! The guy is really good in it! Let's keep him there." The storyline is the fucking point. In the written storyline, the WWE WANTS Alex Riley to be involved with The Miz, even when The Miz is heading into a WrestleMania main event.

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Lol. I'm guessing you don't see the irony in calling someone who has doubts about someone being a future star a mark...

But anyway, I've addressed the "But he's paired with THE MIZ!!! HE HAS TO BE A SUPERSTAR IN THE MAKING!!!" argument so many times in this thread. Being the lackey (Anyone who tries to call him anything more than a lackey at this point is a mark!!!) of The Miz does not mean ANYTHING when it comes to him being a superstar.
It means the WWE want Alex Riley to be associated with a top star, and have no problem with him being featured in that role. It's a good thing. Anyone who thinks that Riley is "just a lackey" is buying into what the WWE is presenting them -- they're a mark (not that that's a bad thing -- makes enjoying the product a lot easier).

Now, I've got no real problem with you, man, we've coexisted around here peacefully for a long time, and I feel your posts add more than they take away -- but please don't talk down to me like I'm an idiot when YOU are the one not getting it. Of course it's all a storyline -- but they've CHOSEN A-Ri specifically for these storylines. You imply that I don't get it's a storyline, but then you ask "Did you ever just think that they paired The Miz up with whoever his NXT rookie was?" Well, why did they choose A-Ri to be The Miz's NXT rookie? Because the two have glaringly similar personas that mesh well, and have continued to mesh well through a WrestleMania main event up until today (despite Riley not technically being a part of the RAW roster anymore).

If you can't see the WWE are grooming A-Ri, you are a moron. If you think the WWE would trust anyone to go into the ring and work with Stone Cold Steve Austin in this day and age -- well, I personally think you are trying to hard to NOT accept that someone, somewhere, with more of a say than you or I, has a massive hard-on for Alex Riley. And although I don't watch RAW much, from what I have seen, the guy seems extra smooth out there. He doesn't stick out like a sore thumb in a spot that many guys can't handle. Ever. They just can't. Sure, this could be the high-point of Riley's WWE career, but if he becomes more solid in the ring, and even better on the mic, and stops drink-driving -- then I personally believe the guy will have a bright future in the WWE. And the evidence, as much as you try to ignore it, is on my side.
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No, the fact is the WWE has plans for him on SmackDown! -- yet they still want to use him on RAW. Jesus Christ. lol

Pull your head out of your ass an realise that people in management see dollar signs in A-Ri.
They see dollar signs in Yoshi Tatsu. That's why he's fucking employed. lol. They see dollar signs in David Otunga... Curt Hawkins... Hornswoggle... Doesn't mean it's retarded to pick the most mundane little storyline twists and be like "OMG THIS MEANS HE'S THE NEXT BIG THING YESSSSSSS!!!"


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You could, but it'd make you a retard. The WWE planned to scrap Riley from his role, but then said "Oh shit! The guy is really good in it! Let's keep him there." The storyline is the fucking point. In the written storyline, the WWE WANTS Alex Riley to be involved with The Miz, even when The Miz is heading into a WrestleMania main event.
So to get this straight... assuming that they didn't go from "We're gonna drop him, we're done with him and Miz" to "OMG HE'S SO GOOD! LET'S KEEP IT GOING!" in one week and actually had the whole thing as part of a storyline (even if it was a lame one)... retarded.

If you say "They wanted him heading into WM with The Miz", you atleast have some kind of a point. But NO. You have to claim that WWE... planned to scrap Alex Riley (I don't think that was the case, but if you do, that doesn't actually help your point.), actually went through with it, and then in that one week between Raws said "Oh shit! The guy is really good! Let's keep him there."? ... not retarded, right? So, that's 100% the way it all went down I guess. lol

That would be grasping at a straw to make yourself believe Riley is destined for something amazing. You jump on the "NO YOU'RE RETARDED IF YOU DON'T SEE HIM AS WWE'S CASH COW OF THE FUTURE! NO STOP SAYIN HE WON'T BE!!! LALALALALALALALALAL! RETARD GRR!!! LALALALALALA!!!" Just like I've been explaining this whole time.


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It means the WWE want Alex Riley to be associated with a top star, and have no problem with him being featured in that role. It's a good thing. Anyone who thinks that Riley is "just a lackey" is buying into what the WWE is presenting them -- they're a mark (not that that's a bad thing -- makes enjoying the product a lot easier).

Now, I've got no real problem with you, man, we've coexisted around here peacefully for a long time, and I feel your posts add more than they take away -- but please don't talk down to me like I'm an idiot when YOU are the one not getting it. Of course it's all a storyline -- but they've CHOSEN A-Ri specifically for these storylines. You imply that I don't get it's a storyline, but then you ask "Did you ever just think that they paired The Miz up with whoever his NXT rookie was?" Well, why did they choose A-Ri to be The Miz's NXT rookie? Because the two have glaringly similar personas that mesh well, and have continued to mesh well through a WrestleMania main event up until today (despite Riley not technically being a part of the RAW roster anymore).

If you can't see the WWE are grooming A-Ri, you are a moron. If you think the WWE would trust anyone to go into the ring and work with Stone Cold Steve Austin in this day and age -- well, I personally think you are trying to hard to NOT accept that someone, somewhere, with more of a say than you or I, has a massive hard-on for Alex Riley. And although I don't watch RAW much, from what I have seen, the guy seems extra smooth out there. He doesn't stick out like a sore thumb in a spot that many guys can't handle. Ever. They just can't. Sure, this could be the high-point of Riley's WWE career, but if he becomes more solid in the ring, and even better on the mic, and stops drink-driving -- then I personally believe the guy will have a bright future in the WWE. And the evidence, as much as you try to ignore it, is on my side.
If he becomes more solid in the ring and better on the mic, he has a solid future in WWE. If this is your stance... we really don't need to discuss it. That pretty much goes without saying. I do watch Raw though. He has work to do. You can't predict potential though skill-wise. He could have topped out. No one knows.

And I do watch Raw weekly. And he is The Miz' lackey. Whether you think that's "markishly buying into what WWE is trying to make me believe" or not. He comes to the ring with The Miz and stands there... very rarely given the chance to showcase these ring and mic skills that everyone seems to be so sure WWE sees in him. He is there a lot of the time to get beaten down by someone so Miz can escape the fight. That is a lackey. In every sense of the word.

Guys have been paired with people way more over than them before and it's gone on to mean absolutely nothing. Him being paired with The Miz alone means little more than WWE likes Miz having a lackey and Riley is good at that job. It could mean more. To just make up this fantasy world of things WWE has planned for him by taking any little thing he has done and turning it into "Oh, they did that because he's gonna be a huge superstar" is an example of blind markishness for the guy. When he's main eventing, putting on actual wrestling matches that show whatever skill he may have and giving promos that don't include him awkwardly calling John Cena a toilet, THEN I'm right there with you and others on the A-Ri bandwagon. Til then, he's just Miz' lackey.
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They see dollar signs in Yoshi Tatsu. That's why he's fucking employed. lol. They see dollar signs in David Otunga... Curt Hawkins... Hornswoggle... Doesn't mean it's retarded to pick the most mundane little storyline twists and be like "OMG THIS MEANS HE'S THE NEXT BIG THING YESSSSSSS!!!"

So to get this straight... assuming that they didn't go from "We're gonna drop him, we're done with him and Miz" to "OMG HE'S SO GOOD! LET'S KEEP IT GOING!" in one week and actually had the whole thing as part of a storyline (even if it was a lame one)... retarded.

If you say "They wanted him heading into WM with The Miz", you atleast have some kind of a point. But NO. You have to claim that WWE... planned to scrap Alex Riley (I don't think that was the case, but if you do, that doesn't actually help your point.), actually went through with it, and then in that one week between Raws said "Oh shit! The guy is really good! Let's keep him there."? ... not retarded, right? So, that's 100% the way it all went down I guess. lol

That would be grasping at a straw to make yourself believe Riley is destined for something amazing. You jump on the "NO YOU'RE RETARDED IF YOU DON'T SEE HIM AS WWE'S CASH COW OF THE FUTURE! NO STOP SAYIN HE WON'T BE!!! LALALALALALALALALAL! RETARD GRR!!! LALALALALALA!!!" Just like I've been explaining this whole time.

If he becomes more solid in the ring and better on the mic, he has a solid future in WWE. If this is your stance... we really don't need to discuss it. That pretty much goes without saying. I do watch Raw though. He has work to do. You can't predict potential though skill-wise. He could have topped out. No one knows.

And I do watch Raw weekly. And he is The Miz' lackey. Whether you think that's "markishly buying into what WWE is trying to make me believe" or not. He comes to the ring with The Miz and stands there... very rarely given the chance to showcase these ring and mic skills that everyone seems to be so sure WWE sees in him. He is there a lot of the time to get beaten down by someone so Miz can escape the fight. That is a lackey. In every sense of the word.

Guys have been paired with people way more over than them before and it's gone on to mean absolutely nothing. Him being paired with The Miz alone means little more than WWE likes Miz having a lackey and Riley is good at that job. It could mean more. To just make up this fantasy world of things WWE has planned for him by taking any little thing he has done and turning it into "Oh, they did that because he's gonna be a huge superstar" is an example of blind markishness for the guy. When he's main eventing, putting on actual wrestling matches that show whatever skill he may have and giving promos that don't include him awkwardly calling John Cena a toilet, THEN I'm right there with you and others on the A-Ri bandwagon. Til then, he's just Miz' lackey.
CSL said it best. Lol wow, indeed.

I've never said that Alex Riley is the next big star -- I've merely said that the WWE sees potential in him, and is obviously grooming him for a top spot. That's why he's in that position when guys like Yoshi Tatsu, Curt Hawkins and Hornswoggle aren't.

I don't know what you other points even mean. The WWE wants A-Ri to be associated with a main eventer. If you can't understand why that is a good thing, or why appearing at every PPV in an active role is a good thing, and that the storyline of being a lackey is getting the guy exposure -- I can't help you. I really can't help you.
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Also, I could say the same about him being "technically fired" from his position. Again... you realize it was a storyline. He wasn't ever actually fired. WWE didn't have to work around it to "keep him employed as Miz' apprentice". He didn't "survive" anything. Seriously. This is all proving my point of people wanting to add significance to someone and make a new "obvious future star."
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So... him "surviviing" being "drafted" from Raw to Smackdown to remain on Raw aligned with The Miz means something to you.

You realize the draft isn't real, right? lol. He was written to be drafted over to Smackdown. It wasn't like there was some crazy draft that messed up WWE's plans and they were like "Fuck it! This man's a star! We're gonna keep him on Raw aligned with The Miz dammit!!!"

Just the fact that you alluded to him "surviving a draft to remain on Raw aligned with The Miz" just... I don't even know what to say about that. Jesus Christ. lol
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Also, I could say the same about him being "technically fired" from his position. Again... you realize it was a storyline. He wasn't ever actually fired. WWE didn't have to work around it to "keep him employed as Miz' apprentice". He didn't "survive" anything. Seriously. This is all proving my point of people wanting to add significance to someone and make a new "obvious future star."
lol my god, your condescending tone is ridiculous and so misplaced. He did 'survive' a draft, he was switched but they clearly felt some kind of need to keep him aligned with Miz, be it protecting Miz, feeling Riley adds something, wanting him to stick on RAW etc. You aren't proving anything, merely showing a glaring misunderstanding of how wrestling works. Yes, he's the lackey but you're making sweeping generalizations about everybody in that kind of spot and you're off the mark. If you really can't tell the difference between Riley and what he's allowed to do, his longevity in the role, the fact they clearly value him in the spot etc compared to a Jackson Andrews, a David Otunga or any of the Nexus lackeys most of the new guys period (which it appears you clearly can't given your repeating of the same redundant 'he's a lackey! means nothing!' point over and over topped off with a few smug 'lol's) then as I said, this is pointless. Nobody is 'adding any significance', nobody is claiming he is the next Hulk Hogan, nobody is claiming he is a star now. You are just completely and utterly missing the point.
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lol my god, your condescending tone is ridiculous and so misplaced. He did 'survive' a draft, he was switched but they clearly felt some kind of need to keep him aligned with Miz, be it protecting Miz, feeling Riley adds something, wanting him to stick on RAW etc. You aren't proving anything, merely showing a glaring misunderstanding of how wrestling works. Yes, he's the lackey but you're making sweeping generalizations about everybody in that kind of spot and you're off the mark. If you really can't tell the difference between Riley and what he's allowed to do, his longevity in the role, the fact they clearly value him in the spot etc compared to a Jackson Andrews, a David Otunga or any of the Nexus lackeys most of the new guys period (which it appears you clearly can't given your repeating of the same redundant 'he's a lackey! means nothing!' point over and over topped off with a few smug 'lol's) then as I said, this is pointless. Nobody is 'adding any significance', nobody is claiming he is the next Hulk Hogan, nobody is claiming he is a star now. You are just completely and utterly missing the point.
Fucking hell, I'm begging someone to actually read the rest of shit I've said in the thread.

My point: I haven't seen anything from Alex Riley. No awesome promos, nothing more than a few short WWE TV style matches on NXT and a squash here and there. Neither of these showcased ANYTHING. Good or bad. Yet people still praise him for these things as if he's been tearing the house down and he's on his way to being something.

I AM NOT ASSERTING ANYTHING one way or another about his future. I'm simply saying to put label him as the next big thing based on him standing next to The Miz while Miz participates in main event storylines is insane.

My other point: The fact that so many people do see such a bright future despite these things makes me believe that people really just NEED to cling on to someone to be the future and will build up reasons in their mind to do so... Like adding significance to things that aren't significant at all... like saying he "survived" things that are twists and turns in wrestling storylines.

There is no less validity to "They want to try him out on Smackdown but he is needed as a pawn in the Cena-Miz feud for one more month" than "WWE sees something in him and wants to keep him involved in the hottest feud in the company in order to build him up." None. At all. Yet when the point is brought up that *gasp!* maybe he is just a pawn for the feud and maybe he just happened to be the rookie on NXT who Miz was paired with and is reeping the benefits as opposed to WWE thinking so highly of him all along, people go ape-shit! And that's the "stick my fingers in my ears and yell lalalalalalalalala" attitude that lends more credibility to my theory that people WANT something to happen, therefore they will come up with reasons why it is happening.
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:21 AM   #36
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:34 AM   #38
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I still don't know who that Murphy guy is, but that picture tells me that Alex Riley is one thousand times better than him.
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