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Old 02-05-2012, 01:20 AM   #81
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Good Riddance. What a sore loser. Can't wait for Condit/GSP.
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:20 AM   #82
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whats with people losing and quitting?
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:44 AM   #83
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No way Condit won 4 rds.

3 at a push.
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Both of the Diaz brothers are twats.
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Condit fight like a pussy.
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There's no way in hell Condit deserved a unanimous decision, but he did win the fight in my opinion. I think Nick's style played a part in that though. He doesn't check leg kicks or even make an effort to block or avoid other strikes from his opponents, so they score/look good too.

Unfortunately, GSP vs. Condit isn't that intriguing to me.
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Yeah, Diaz GSP was my dream match..
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Aggression? Diaz only won the fifth round. This fight was never in doubt. Confit didn't worry about pace, he focused on distance, and he kept Diaz right where he wanted him(kick range). Did you realize that condit set a record for kicks landed? He landed as many different combinations as I have ever seen. I feel like Diaz was exposed as a one trick pony here. Yeah he's a black belt, but why didn't he use those skills? Cut angles, close distance, get to the ground and do work. If he changed his gameplan after getting schooled in the first, or second round...the fight could've come out differently.
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There's no way in hell Condit deserved a unanimous decision, but he did win the fight in my opinion. I think Nick's style played a part in that though. He doesn't check leg kicks or even make an effort to block or avoid other strikes from his opponents, so they score/look good too.

Unfortunately, GSP vs. Condit isn't that intriguing to me.
Gotta disagree here bro. Unanimous is fair here, but 50-45 is ludacris. I could not fathom Diaz winning
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Gotta disagree here bro. Unanimous is fair here, but 50-45 is ludacris. I could not fathom Diaz winning
No you're right. I meant to take issue with the idea that Condit won all five rounds. I don't have a problem with each judge giving him the win though. I was hungover when I typed that. Hell, I'm still hungover.
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Hate the Diaz losers so much, love when they lose.
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I thought it was 3-2 Condit. Rather have Diaz/GSP though Condit/GSP might be a bore fest.
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Hate the Diaz losers so much, love when they lose.
Hate them all you want but Diaz/GSP would've been epic.. the hype.machine started rolling on this match when Zuffa bought Strikeforce.. so hate him all you want, but.as an MMA fan you should've wanted him to win..
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The fight can be close as hell each and every round but one fighter could actually win every round. Sometimes unanimous decisions are much closer fights than split decisions.

I kind of think Fabricio is dirty. He pointed to the ground multiple times trying to distract Nelson plus he put his fingers in Nelson's asshole in the first round. I don't think this is dirty but I noticed sometimes he goes down even if the other guy doesn't really tag him hard enough and tricks the other guy to come in for the kill so he can submit them.

I think GSP could take down Diaz at will easily. GSP is smart and can do what Condit did tonight but also has the take-down option at his disposal.
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No you're right. I meant to take issue with the idea that Condit won all five rounds. I don't have a problem with each judge giving him the win though. I was hungover when I typed that. Hell, I'm still hungover.
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Hate them all you want but Diaz/GSP would've been epic.. the hype.machine started rolling on this match when Zuffa bought Strikeforce.. so hate him all you want, but.as an MMA fan you should've wanted him to win..
As an mma fan, I want a champion who can beat any fighter. DIAZ IS A ONE TRICK PONY, if you don't fight his fight, he struggles.
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:54 PM   #97
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lol

His last loss, beside the doctor stoppage against Noons and the cloudy piss no contest, was in 2006..
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Yeah but which top level promotions has he been in in time?
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UFC, Pride, Elite XC, Dream, and Strikeforce..
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So pretty much every "big" promotion of the last 6 years, minus Bodog Fights or IFL..
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i would say all except ufc and pride are mid level promotions at best tbh. the penn and daley wins are the only ones really worth a thing since 2006.

also i would say calling him a one trick pony is harsh considering he is that good at bjj and boxing but i see the point. the wins over penn and daley are probably precisely because they are the type of people willing to stand toe to toe with anyone. condit did really well even if it wasn't the entertaining fight i was hoping for.
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i would say all except ufc and pride are mid level promotions at best tbh. the penn and daley wins are the only ones really worth a thing since 2006.

also i would say calling him a one trick pony is harsh considering he is that good at bjj and boxing but i see the point. the wins over penn and daley are probably precisely because they are the type of people willing to stand toe to toe with anyone. condit did really well even if it wasn't the entertaining fight i was hoping for.
One trick pony can come off as harsh, I understand. To be fair, he only wants to fight one way Much like rampage. I do agree with you. To be clear, if I called him one dimensional, that's a more damming statement, although to most the two are synonymous.
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it has got me thinking a little more between the pros and cons of being an aggressive striker vs being a counter striker though. fighting is the best. i love all these mad little elements that make it hard to understand
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it has got me thinking a little more between the pros and cons of being an aggressive striker vs being a counter striker though. fighting is the best. i love all these mad little elements that make it hard to understand
It's great! Nuances make this the beautiful sport.
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Was on Bloody Elbow today and some enterprising soul with far too much time on their hands transcribed the conversations from Diaz's corner from the fight. I'll post the whole thing here, but just for credit's sake here's the link: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/2/6/...pt-of-what-was

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Before Rd1:
Nate: Fuck this guy, be smart a’right?
Nate: Wake up, Dude! Wake up! There you go!
Red Corner (probably talking to the corner-team): Be calm in the corner. That’s where the cameras are, they’re tryin’ t make us look bad. The camera [...] is makin’ us look bad for freakin’ out so be calm on the camera’s
Nate: Watch that straight right left hook he’s gonna try, straight right – left hook. Red Corner: Let’s go Diaz! Be smart! Let’s do it!


Round 1:
Red Corner (right after the first leg kick): Check that kick
Nate: Watch that straight right – left hook!
Nate (4:43): Put that chin down!
Red Corner (4:05): Box him up, Nick!
Nate (4:07): Feints too! Feints! Make him throw!
Red Corner (3:45): Turn it up! He’s trying to run! He’s trying to run!
Nate (3:36, probably talking about Condit): Yeah, he gets hit. He gets hit with shots.
Nate (3:34): Feints too, make him throw!
Red Corner (3:30): Turn it up! Turn it up! Right there!
Nate (commenting as Condit slips away): Hit and run...
Nate (3:!4): Body! Body!
Red Corner (3:08): You got him against the cage!
Nate (3:04): Cut him off, don’t chase him!
Red Corner (3:02): Cut him off, don’t follow! (The command is repeated many (!) times from here on out till the end of the round)
Nate (answering to a question I can’t understand at 2:36): Trying to tag with a hard shot, that’s why. He’s probably tryin to win with a hard shot..
Red Corner (2:22): Cut him off, don’t let him get out!
Nate (2:20): Let’s get on that body too!
Nate (2:04): There you go! Set up the body!
Red Corner (2:01): You stand up tall!
Nate (after a spinning elbow by Carlos at 1:58): Fuckin’ dick!
Red Corner (1:45): Get in and get out! Don’t let him get off! Work that body [...]
Nate (after another leg-kick, 1:42): Check that shit!
Red Corner (1:31): He’s landet the better shots so far
Nate (1:30): Yah.
Nate (1:27): He’s tryin to pace for five rounds.
Nate (as Nick is pressing Carlos against the fence): Shorter! Shorter!
Red Corner (1:14): Flank him! Come on! Get him against the cage! Body!
Nate (0:56): Cut him off good!
Red Corner (0:55): Get that body again! Keep that pace Nick!
Red Corner (after Condit escapes again and a lot of "Cut him off!" previously): You let him get off again! Don’t let him get off!
Red Corner (0:26): Back him up! Take a step forward! Set it up! Step forward! Turn it up!

At this point I realized this would take forever and decided to drop most of the redundand stuff or sum it up!

Before Rd 2:
Nate: Sit down, sit down.
Richard Perez: Don’t let him circle, you hear? When you got him against the cage...
Nate (interrupting): Deep breaths, deep breaths.
Richard Perez: Deep breaths, out of your mouth! Now...when you back him up against the cage Nick, you gotta stay in his face hard, you understand? So what you’re gonna do is your gonna pump that jab...
Nick: (to Nate, interrupting) Gimme the bottle of water.
Richard Perez: And you go to the body and then back to the head. Head-Body, it’s wide open, you can get him.
Nate: He’s tryin to make you chase him too [him and Perez talking over each other] Cut him off real good.
Nate: He’s tryin to coast for five rounds. Cut him off good!

Round 2
(I’ll leave out most of the constant screams of "cut him off" here. Know that they are there till the fight ends)

Red Corner (4:35): Here comes the headkick! (Actually there’s another leg kick)
Red Coner (4:10): Keep comin. You have it there, dog!
Nate (to a teammate, 4:03): He’s got nothin on him, dude. He’s just tryin to set stuff up. (right here, Condit throws a spinning elbow at around 3:58) See, that’s the kind of asshole-shit he’s got. But...he better land a good one if he wants to end it cause he can’t really do too much.
Red Corner (3:41): You gotta throw your punches down the middle!
Nate (3:32): Make him come to you!
*somebody applauds after Nick taunts and slaps Carlos* (3:21)
Red Corner (somebody else than the staff that could be heard so far 3:08): Condit you pussy!
Red Corner: You can run all day!
Nate (2:50): Make him chase you! Make him chase you a little bit! Let him chase you too he ain’t got shit!

*Lot’s of calls for cutting Carlos off, going to the body and some feints from here on out *

Red Corner (1:40): Make him miss! Make him miss! Let your hands go!
Nate (after the flurry on the fence around 1:20): Good job Nick
Red Corner (1:24): He’s tired now! He’s tired! He’s getting desperate right now, he’s getting tired! Down the middle!
Nate: Nicks gonna pick up the pace later in the thrid-fourth round and if [...]
Red Corner (0:37): Come on, Nick! You can’t win like that! You can’t win like that!
Red Corner (0:17): Throw! Throw!

Before Rd 3
Nate: Ok, sit down
Red Corner: You can’t finish him by follwoing him. Your doin good [...] and come back with the uppercut.
Nate: Keep doin’ what you’re doin.
Red Corner: You’re doing good. You got him runnin now. He’s gassin out from runnin. Nate: You ain’t gonna have to chase him so much, too. You can if you want but you don’t have to. He’s trying to make you chase him around some hard shit (?). You can wave him down like "Come to me motherfucker!". [...]You won the last two rounds so keep doin what you’re doin. But you can make him come to you too. Or do what you want. You can do that too, he ain’t doin nothin.
-- Can’t understand what Richard Perez is saying here, unfortunately
Nate: Feints too, ok? Make him throw, make him throw. Good job brother, you’re doin good.

Round 3
Nate (no clock yet...right at the start oft he round): It’s lookin good
Red Corner: You think so?
Nate: Yah, two – zero.
Red Corner: Sometimes though, they...
Nate: Nah, two to zero. Everybody knows that. Fuck that! The guy ain’t doin nothin. He’s doin what he can though.
Red Corner: He’s running. He’s running the whole time.
Red Corner (4:25): Right now! Right now!
Red Corner (after Nick flurries on Carlos 4:23): Oh, nice! Nice left hand!
Red Corner (4:21): He’s hurt! He’s hurt Nick! He’s hurt!
Red Corner (4:12, as Carlos turns his back briefly and jogs to the middle of the cage): Get on top of him! You gotta be on top of him when he does that! He’s not set. Now down the middle! Come on!
Red Corner: (3:43) You got it dog! Keep going! Keep doing it! Keep doing it! He don’t know what to do no more! That’s it right there! He’s turning! He’s turning! Step over! Step over, down the middle! (This gets repeated a while with calls to let his hands go and go fort he body)
Nate (2:51): Heartrate, Nick!
Red Corner (2:30): Don’t let him bounce around!
Red Corner (2:07): Come on now, Nick! Don’t stand in front of him! Back him up, there you you go! Mix it up, Nick!

*Lots of "cut him off", "turn it up", "make him come to you" and all his corners favorites so far*

Red Corner (to Nate): He’s gotta get the punch-combos going
Nate: Yeah. It’s hard though when you’re chasing the fucker all over the place.
Nate (0:16): Don’t chase him, walk him down, Nick!
Nate (after Condit slipped): What happened? Did he fall?
Red Corner: Yeah, he fell.

Before Round 4
Nate: Here, sit down, brother
Nick: Did I get hit?
Nate: Nah, you’re not even cut.
Richard Perez: He’s got nothin no more, dog. You hear me? He got nothin no more. All you gotta do is go down the middle, get that body-shot. Don’t stand in front of him though cause you may get hit [...]
Nate: You can make him come to you as well cause he’s just running from you. Don’t chase him. Wave "Come to me, motherfucker", you know what I mean? [..] You can keep doin what you do the whole fight. You gotta cut him off really good, ok?
Round 4
Red Corner: [...]man, they’re trying to cool him off. That was a lot of water.
Red Corner: His heatrate seems still alright
Nate (4:49): That’s what they do, they make him all wet so the punches slip off and shit.
Red Corner (4:44): Ist that allowed here?
Nate (Yelling over to the other corner): Ey, y’all put too much water on that motherfucker, man!
Nate (4:32): Ref! Dry him off, ref! Dry him off!
Nate (4:23): He’s slippin all over the place cause they put water all over him! That’s weak.
Nate (3:48): Okay let’s go and pick your shots right now, let’s not go for the fence right now! Quicker shots that land, Nick! They don’t got to be hard now, just make’em land!
Red Corner (3:25): He’s gonna run in a circle all night. Let’s get some hooks, make him stay in there!
Red Corner (3:19): That body shot hurt him, do it again!
Red Corner (3:12): He’s trying to run again. He always runs out to the same side. Right hook as soon as he turns out!
Red Corner (3:05): Right hook, left hook, keep him in there!
Red Corner (3:02): Body lock!
Nate (3:01): He all wet!
Red Corner (2:59): It’s aweful. Yeah, referee’s gotta [...]
Nate (2:50): He’s wet, dude! He’s all wet.
Red Corner (2:48): Let your hands go! Don’t stand in front of him!
Nate (still about Condit being all wet): That’s weak dog. That’s weak.

Nicks corner is clearly frustrated that he let’s Condit escape from the cage so often, exclaiming "aw man!" and calling for him to stay on Condit.

Nate (1:50, as Condit sprints away again): Call for a yellow-card!
Red Corner: He’s running all day
Nate: That’s the best he can do man. He’s just surviving the fight!
Nate (1:15): Step on the outside!
Red Corner (1:13): Take the center! Make him come to you!
Red Coner (0:50): Put him in a war, Nick! Make him waste his...let’s get his heartrate up!

*again, there’s a lot of "let your hands go", "cut him off" and "Let him come to you" all throughout this round*

Red Corner (0:07): Takedown!

Before the 5th round
Nate: Hey ref! Ref! Ref! Ref! Ey, they keep wetting him! He’s all slippery because they keep pouring water all over him.
Referee: Alright, alright!
Nate: There’s water...
Somebody says: What do you think. Maybe Nick
Nate: No. No, no, no, no, fuck that, you got every round.
Somebody, maybe Nick (Although it doesn’t sound like him) says: "Don’t lie to me"
Nate: He might have got that last round but that’s it. You got the rest. You’re up three to one, okay? Rinse it out, take a drink. Let’s get a couple of ten second intervals in this one, ok? Whenever you want, whenever you’re ready.

5th round
Nate: This is the last round, right?
Red Corner Is this the fifth round?
Nate: Yah. Fifth round.
Nate (4:14 after the usual calls): Be smart Nick, make him miss!
Nate (4:02): Quick punches that land, alright?
Red Corner (3:38) You just stand in front of him! Come on Nick, come on!
Red Corner (3:26): Don’t stand on the outside!
Red Corner (3:12): Take him down when he stands like that!
Red Corner (2:32 as Nick gets a body-lock): There it is! V-lock! (?)

Lots of calls to "set that hook up", plus the usual stuff. Nate informs Nick oft he time at the 2 and 1:30 mark.

Nate: Yeah! (as Nick takes it tot he ground, 1:20)
Nate (1:10): He’s gonna finish somethin, dude.
Red Corner: Relax! You got a minute! You got a minute!
Nate: One minute!
Nate (0:50): Yeah, he’s trying to get that armbar.
Red Corner (0:40): Grab the chin!
Red Corner (0:30): Break his nose!
Nate: 30 seconds, go on top! Now, Nick, now!
Nate (0:17): Ey, let’s get some elbows, get some punches! 15 seconds!
Red Corner (0:09): Set that choke up!

After the fight:
Official: Nobody goes in until I say. Stay right here, please
Red Corner: Yes, Sir.
Nate: Fuck yeah!
Red Corner: Get his shirt!
Nate: Ey, gimme his shirt! Gimme his shirt!
Nate: You won that shit!


Official: Now get in there. You know what to do?
Red Corner: Yes, Sir!
Nate: Gimme that shirt!
Dana White: Good job, dude!
Nate: Ey! For sure four to one, a’right?
Nick: I got that? I got that homie?
Nate: Yeah Fuck yeah, you got that.
Nick: I pushe him back the whole time
Red Corner: Yeah, yeah, he ran.
Nate: All we got is the sweatshirt. Ey yo, put this on. I tell you [...] four to one for sure. No problem.
Red Corner: He ran too much.
Nick (probably looking at the replay): They’re showin only (?)his shit.
Nate: Yeah, that was the last round. But you got four to one for sure. There’s no way...
Nick (interrupting): I almost finished that armlock.
Nate: Yeah, yeah, I know. He knew he was biding (?) his time too. Hey look, Nick, you guaranteed no matter what won that fight.
Nate (shaking Greg Jacksons hand): Good fight!
Nate (shaking Carlos’ hand): Good fight, Carlos
Nick (after a few steps): Ran too much
Nate: Yeah
Nick (talking to Lorenzo Fertitta. Unfortunately, this is very hard to understand) : [...]You asked me to fight, I came here to fight. I’m not gonna[...]I came in a little heavy. It was either I could cut the calories or cut the sparring [...]

Nate pulls him away as the scores are ready to be read.
Nate: "Hey, listen. Listen: He did what he had to do, alright? That’s what. So he’d get through that fight"
Nate Diaz seems like a real dick here. The least he could have done was be honest with him.
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