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Old 04-08-2012, 12:04 PM   #81
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He'd take an asswhooping for a nice payday.
I dunno. The one thing I like and respect about Brock is the fact that he has pride and doesn't take kindly to losing. I think he would have stuck around if he was getting his asswhooped and still winning, but I believe Lesnar realized he wasn't going to be able to compete with the top guys and decided to walk away rather than stick around just to collect a check. That's pretty respectable.

In hindsight, MMA kind of missed out. When Lesnar came out of college, earning a living in MMA wasn't a viable option. Now, you have national champions like Bubba Jenkins and Olympians joining MMA teams like draft picks going pro. If Lesnar started training at 22 instead of 30, he'd be an icon.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:54 PM   #82
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I dunno. The one thing I like and respect about Brock is the fact that he has pride and doesn't take kindly to losing. I think he would have stuck around if he was getting his asswhooped and still winning, but I believe Lesnar realized he wasn't going to be able to compete with the top guys and decided to walk away rather than stick around just to collect a check. That's pretty respectable.

In hindsight, MMA kind of missed out. When Lesnar came out of college, earning a living in MMA wasn't a viable option. Now, you have national champions like Bubba Jenkins and Olympians joining MMA teams like draft picks going pro. If Lesnar started training at 22 instead of 30, he'd be an icon.
Sadly though nobody would've cared as much without that wwe stint. He's doomed to this type of speculation forever.what if he ate veggies and his intestines didn't rot? What if he went straight to MMA? What if he could take a punch? IMO, this is a part of Brock's charm.
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lol..do intestines rot if you dont eat healthy? Shit im screwed too then
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Fancy Hendo's chances against JDS more than him vs Jones/Shad.
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Ill drool over Hendo vs. any of those 3
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UFC heavyweight No. 1 contender Alistair Overeem will step in front of the Nevada State Athletic Commission on April 24, with the status of the UFC 146 main event to be determined soon after.
Overeem tested for elevated levels of testosterone during a pre-fight drug test recently. He'll have to explain to the NSAC why his levels were so high - and have a good reason - if he hopes to receive his fight licensen to face Junior dos Santos for the UFC heavyweight title.

Keith Kizer, Executive Director of NSAC, told The MMA Show recently about the date for the Overeem hearing. UFC president Dana White has confirmed that a decision will be made concerning dos Santos-Overeem after the hearing.
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I hope he stuns everyone with some sort of foulproof excuse.

Really doubt it for.

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Sadly though nobody would've cared as much without that wwe stint. He's doomed to this type of speculation forever.what if he ate veggies and his intestines didn't rot? What if he went straight to MMA? What if he could take a punch? IMO, this is a part of Brock's charm.
Speaking of Brock, I'm kind of interested in seeing the PPV buys between the upcoming WWE PPV and UFC 145 just to see if the Brock factor works for WWE.
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It will be interesting. There was definitely crossover from WWE to UFC when Brock came over, but I don't necessarily think that there is crossover from UFC to WWE. They might get some "old fans" back who love Brock, but most hardcore MMA guys resent Brock's success because of his WWE background and those are unlikely to start watching WWE.
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It will be interesting. There was definitely crossover from WWE to UFC when Brock came over, but I don't necessarily think that there is crossover from UFC to WWE. They might get some "old fans" back who love Brock, but most hardcore MMA guys resent Brock's success because of his WWE background and those are unlikely to start watching WWE.
I think most of the Just BLEED MMA fans are 'happy' that Brock has gone. It's ass backwards, I KNOW!
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Why arent steroids allowed tho?

U can eat protein supplements and stuff and its okay but u cant use steroids?

Why not let everyone use steroids and see who wins? It wont be an unfair advantage if everyone uses them.
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Why arent steroids allowed tho?

U can eat protein supplements and stuff and its okay but u cant use steroids?

Why not let everyone use steroids and see who wins? It wont be an unfair advantage if everyone uses them.
What about pushing the boundaries of human potential? What about taking pride in accomplishing something great under your own power?
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What about pushing the boundaries of human potential? What about taking pride in accomplishing something great under your own power?
What about $$$ from being a box office draw from being a freak who bashes people's faces in.
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What about pushing the boundaries of human potential? What about taking pride in accomplishing something great under your own power?
Yeah but why not push those boundaries even further with chemical help ?
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What about $$$ from being a box office draw from being a freak who bashes people's faces in.
When was Josh Barnett's last big payday? The guy has the tools to be a top contender in the UFC but can't get licensed in a lot of states because of roids.
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Isnt Hendo technically the "top" guy now since he mauled Fedor?
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Overeem lawyered up in a major way for his NSAC meeting....word on the street is that uncle Dana took a duffle bag full of crumpled money to overeem. In other words, the hot gossip is that Zuffa is footing the bill!
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Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Heavyweight Champion Junior dos Santos is not a man that will back down from any challenge. He has proven so time and time again since his debut in the world's preeminent mixed martial arts (MMA) organization in 2008 when he knocked out established veteran Fabricio Werdum in the very first round.

The competition didn't get easier from there for the Brazilian bomber. He proceeded to defeat his next seven opponents with ease, including some of the best heavyweights in the world such as Roy Nelson, Mirko Filipovic, Shane Carwin and the man he took the title from, Cain Velasquez.

His next challenge is scheduled to come against Alistair Overeem at UFC 146 on May 26, 2012, the most accomplished striker "Cigano' will have faced to date. Of course, April 24, 2012 can't come fast enough, as that is the day the MMA world will know whether or not "The Reem" will get licensed to fight due to his positive drug test that showed the former K-1 champion had elevated testosterone levels.

Still, regardless of all the drama surrounding Overeem and his scheduled Memorial Day weekend showdown, Junior is not ready to back down one bit, even if he now considers it to be an unfair fight.

Speaking to Brazilian news outlet Globo, "Cigano" says he would gladly take the fight with Overeem if the Nevada's State Athletic Commission (NSAC) approves it, but he feels it will be an unfair due to his opponent's elevated testosterone levels.



"If the fight happens I will fight with pleasure, but I can tell if it is proved that the use of illegal substances is disrespect to the sport and something unfair to me. The ratio of testosterone in his body that there may be increased by 30% his strength and aggressiveness of it, I was told people who know the subject. Will really be unfair fight, but as a fighter will be ready to face anyone. If the athletic commission and the UFC want I'll fight him. I am a fighter and will be there to fight, but it is sure to be disrespect to MMA and how serious is this sport. This will also be unfair, it will be unfair to me. I've never used these devices to gain strength. I think the right would do blood tests on wrestlers as is done in the Olympics, not the urine, since the blood is easier to detect these illegal substances. We want to know who the best really. No use to be the best liar. Being a world champion making false use of a lot of drugs, that's not being champion. I can clearly say that I am the champion without ever having the use of any illegal artifice in order to get there. I favor more rigorous tests to assess whether someone is doped. It has to be a clean sport and these tests should occur more surprises. If Overeem is more aggressive and stronger the more he will resist blows and it will be difficult for me. If I lose will be unfair. He will not have fought better than I have fought doped."

Junior went on to say that even though Overeem would prove a great challenge for him, Cain Velasquez, who he knocked out in just over a minute at UFC on Fox 1 to claim his title, would be an even bigger one:

"I find it curious he won three belts without ever having been caught doping in right away and ends up being caught in the UFC. It would be a good challenge for me, but my biggest challenge I went for the title against Cain. He is the most outstanding and would be a great challenge for me. The Overeem would be a good challenge, but it would be my biggest challenge. He fails the fitness and speed. He frightens the uninitiated, but who knows what being a fighter knows he would not be my most difficult opponent. We always say that the next challenge will be more difficult to prepare even more, but do not think Overeem would be my biggest challenge."

Though many fans would love to see a rematch between Cain and dos Santos, considering the first one wasn't much of a fight, Velasquez is currently scheduled to face Frank Mir as the co-main event for UFC 146, a bout UFC President Dana White says will still go on as planned.

So what's your say on the matter Maniacs, does the reigning Heavyweight champion have some beef to call the fight unfair if it indeed goes down? Or is it even playing field if the NSAC does indeed approve "The Reem" to compete for the title?

Opinions, please.
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Overeem lawyered up in a major way for his NSAC meeting....word on the street is that uncle Dana took a duffle bag full of crumpled money to overeem. In other words, the hot gossip is that Zuffa is footing the bill!
That's a good idea because the people on NSAC are so condescending. Like that bitch who asked King Mo (a college grad) if he could read and write English. BTW, he got cut by Zuffa for calling the bitch a bitch.

Having a high powered Zuffa backed lawyer might keep them in check.
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I'm an asshole...cause I kept trying to play this clip.
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If they actually leave the Cain/Mir fight on this card, then it will be



It seems they are banking on Overeem being able to fight..
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April 16, 2012 by Joe Rocha

The question of who will headline UFC 146 continues on.

Alistair Overeem’s head manager Glenn Robinson attempts to clarify with Inside MMA’s Ron Kruck that the reports of Overeem testing with ‘elevated’ testosterone levels are simply untrue. It is actually his testosterone to epitestosterone (T/E) ratio that was ‘off,’ according to Robinson. As reported, Overeem’s test was flagged positive by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for a staggering 14:1 T/E ratio. Come April 24, Overeem and camp are still confident however that he will be approved to fight for the UFC heavyweight title on May 26th.

“I spoke with Glenn Robinson, manager of Overeem and he says he is very respectful and is hopeful that he will be granted his license and the entire team is very confident that he will be facing Junior dos Santos come May 26th” said Rice. “Now Robinson wanted to make it very clear that despite other reports, Overeem did not test high for testosterone, but rather his testosterone to epitestosterone was off and he has a reasonable explanation to why that is, which he will present to the commission next Tuesday.”

The assumption by most is that Overeem’s defense before the Nevada Athletic Commission will likely involve a TRT exemption. According to NSAC executive director, Keith Kizer, Overeem has not applied for exemption, but also does not rule out his eligibility for TRT use at this point.

“Kizer confirmed several things. Overeem has applied for a license to fight in the state and he will have the opportunity to present his case to the commission on why he should be granted that license, despite failing his pre-fight drug test. Now, some have speculated that he may use the defense of testosterone replacement therapy or TRT as a defense as we’ve seen several fighters do before. Speaking with Kizer, he has said Overeem has not applied for TRT exemption, but that does not mean he can’t. He has time to do that. As long as he gives the commission’s doctors time to deal with the situation. “

Alistair Overeem / Junior Dos Santos
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Its ibvious from looking at him that he is using SOME kinda chemical to get dat big.
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Well Overeem is out of the fight. Dana posted this.

Taking off to Atlanta!!!! May 26 th is now Mir vs JDS for the HW title in Las Vegas at the MGM Grand.
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C'mon now. I believe Mir deserves the shot but lets be honest, the most obvious result of this fight is JDS via KO/TKO in round 1.
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I dont think it'll be a quick fight. JDS should win but I see it lasting around 3 rounds
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Mir/Dos Santos & Silva/Velasquez. Not sure if they'd find somebody to fight Nelson or pull him from the card altogether, but this is the best way to go.
What I say? It was so obvious that I still can't believe some people weren't convinced Mir would get the title shot if Overeem was pulled from the card.
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