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Old 06-22-2004, 05:03 PM   #81
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He was good early in the year and then everything went downhill because Dallas has like 5 three point shooting power forwards, but if you have a dominant paint presence and then let Antoine get 8 boards a game, he'd be pretty effective.
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I read the paper today, Cuban said Dirk is about the closest to untouchable that he gets.

T-Mac had a comment that went like this "Me and the Big Fella are trying to make it to Dallas together now" referring to Shaq.

Obviously Shaq and T-Mac are huge buddies and want to play together, but I don't know if I see that happening.

Cuban also commented and said he would be willing to package Jamison-Walker-Finley in some combination to get Shaq.
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Wow wouldn't that be something. I think either Shaq or Kobe will stay, but I don't think both are gonna leave. After one goes , the other will probably settle.
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The Bobcats selections are as follows.

F Lonny Baxter* Washington
G J.R. Bremer* Golden State
C Primoz Brezec Indiana
G Maurice Carter* New Orleans
C Predrag Drobnjak L.A. Clippers
F Desmond Ferguson* Portland
F Marcus Fizer* Chicago
G Richie Frahm* Seattle
F Brandon Hunter Boston
F Jason Kapono Cleveland
F-C Zaza Pachulia Orlando
F Aleksandar Pavlovic Utah
F Jamal Sampson L.A. Lakers
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F Theron Smith Memphis
G Jeff Trepagnier* Denver
F Gerald Wallace Sacramento
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I know they don't want to draft big contracts, but they shouldve picked at least one marquee player.
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Also why did they waste their time picking 19, like 5 of those guys are going to be on the team next year
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Yeah, ESPN said only about 7 of those guys will be on the team next year.

Also, I think that expansion teams have a limited salary cap, less than the rest of the league, which is probably why they didn't take any guys with big contracts. Otherwise they could just wind up with a rich owner and pull in Kobe and all of the other marquee free agents
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I heard on FSN that the latest rumor was Wally Szczerbiak for Tony Battie, I think two more guys, and a first round draft pick. Any thoughts?
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Damn it they took Hunter

He was a beast on the boards for the few games he played in

Also Antoine Walker is not terrible. Aslong as he keeps his head in the game and doesn't start jacking up too many 3 pointers he is pretty effective scorer
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He didnt keep his head in the game and jacked up way too many 3s with dallas
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No matter what, the Mavs need to get rid of one of their perimeter power forwards, Dirk or Antoine. Sure Antoine is the ideal one to get rid of for marketing and skill and everything, but if you can get Shaq for Dirk, you can't say no to that
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Antoine Walker is completely useless to the Mavs. Just what they didnt need, another scorer who cant play D
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If the Wolves can find a way to pick up Humphries, that would be the greatest trade ever. Esp. for marketing.

All the racist idiots in MN think Wally is the shit. Imagine when we get the local white boy who is thought to be the next Malone... who matched Okafor for strongest player in the draft...

Whatever it takes, we need to get Humphries.
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BTW, I'm hearing a rumor TMac to Phoenix for Matrix, another player (supposively Casey Jacobsen), and the #7 pick.

I will fuck Jerry Colangelo's brains out if he swings it.
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I heard the same things as Dave, and I would rather keep Marion than take up T-Mac.
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Kris Humphreys, nah. It wouldn't be bad to try to get him, the hometown guy, big man, all that, but I don't think its very important. We definately have more use for Wally than we would with Humphreys. Wally is a high percentage shooter, and probably the biggest fan favorite behind KG.

Its almost rediculous that you even mention the names Kris Humphreys and Karl Malone in the same sentence. Kris Humphreys had totally inflated stats because he lead a last place Gophers team in scoring and rebounding, but what do you expect Adam Boone to do that? Their whole offense ran through him, everytime they got the ball they would go to him, and he ended with solid stats for that kind of a gameplan, except he had like 1 assist every two games. His ball control isn't very good, and he thrived on playing the poor competition.

The Timberwolves already have an undersized white power forward in Madsen, and Madsen is a lot more of a team player than Kris would be. He is all about himself, arrogant, and just a huge d-bag everyone who knew him tells me. If he is going to thrive in the NBA, its going to be in the East, because his size will be an advantage there, so Boston will be a good choice. If that is their plan, the worst part is that we would be taking him 10th overall, he is projected to go in the 20's, and he is the kind of guy who is going to try to force the maximum contract possible. The last thing we need is a guy used to dominating (he was everything in Hopkins and then again at the U) now coming off the bench and making little impact.

Humphreys isn't a fan favorite in Minnesota, he's not even white as you said, it would be a huge mistake to draft him, especially that early while losing such a good talent in Wally.
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I'm guessing Dallas will ship all 3 and Antoine Walker for Shaq?
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I had to check to make sure thats true, and it is (not questioning you, but I just wasn't sure if it was just speculation). There was also some other deal involving Phoenix and Chicago and draft picks, but nobody cares.

Anyway, I am surprised, I thought Jaimison was a good guy to have in Dallas, and why would you ever take on Stackhouse and Laettner? Is Finley a FA, or is there a different reason they are getting Stackhouse? I guess he could play SF, but even so. They need a point guard and they need Shaq, I can't imagine they want to keep Stackhouse, but I don't see LA wanting him either, so I guess we'll see.
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The Phoenix-Chicago deals pretty much puts the McGrady-Marion deal off
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So Lakers will have the 5th pick then going by that? Of course with all the IF's involved.

Suns traded away their 7th pick in the draft to the Bulls, and I'm hearing this probably push them away from TMac talks.
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Wow Stackhouse really fell off...he used to be nasty now nobody he is getting shipped around
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I just heard on TV that the Nets are looking to trade Jason Kidd in order to get some extra cash to pay Kenyon Martin.

I can't be the only one who thinks this is absolutely rediculous?! Martin sucks, plain and simply, and the only reason he is even moderately successful is because of Jason Kidd.
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Yeah there's no way you'd trade Kidd to keep Martin.

Put anyone with Kidd and he'll make them good.
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I've heard the rumor on both Sportscenter and I, Max, so I'm not just pulling it out of my ass.
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Heavy rotation on ESPN.com too, Kidd is probably going. On one hand, Kidd is a top-5 player in the NBA year in and year out, but then, he's old. He's still young enough to get something in return from a team who needs PG help immediately, he got injured at year's end so he might not be as good next year... these are all valid reasons for dumping him. Especially given that K-Mart is young, and I think he's a lot better than people give him credit for -- does he deserve a max contract? No. But most players who receive them do not deserve them. I like him anyway. He's tough and gritty etc. etc.

But then, Kidd could leave. If Shaq can leave, Kidd can leave.

And I'm not talking about T-Mac in the same sentence, because a team can live without T-Mac or Kobe. A Shaq or a Kidd is the heart of the team. A T-Mac or a Kobe would just be the gun in the hand, and like an A-Rod, might actually hurt the team despite being the best player on the team.
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It makes sense in the age aspect, but that is the only way. Kidd singlehandedly turned that team around, when it was essentially the same team but Marbury at point they couldn't make the playoffs, add Kidd and you're in the next two years. Without Kidd, they could potentially be a 7 or 8 seed, realisticly. Kenyon Martin was a total choke when it mattered in the playoffs. IMO if they need to trade Kidd in order to sign someone, they should put their money on someone better. I forget who all are free agents, but hell even Rasheed is a better player than Kenyon. If Kenyon leaves Kidd, he will blow, he doesn't have the body or play to go against Western PF's, KG, Duncan, Weber, Dirk, etc etc would eat him up. No Western team is going to sign him for a lot of money, and if they do it will be a really shitty team. Let him test the market, find out that he's not worth that much, then either sign with them or come crying back. If he signs with them, there no reason you can't still trade Kidd, and if the team falls apart, get some draft picks for him at the trade deadline. I am not a Kenyon Martin fan.
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Yea if you watch the Nets, they suck without Kidd in there

They like built the entire team around him, players that fit him perfectly

It just wouldn't make sense to me if they let him go
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It's official.

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Magic get:

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Old 06-30-2004, 07:34 PM   #114
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Old 06-30-2004, 08:08 PM   #115
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Old 07-01-2004, 06:54 PM   #116
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DaveWaddling must be pissing himself with glee, Kobe might end up being a Sun.

At least I can hate them again once they got rid of Marbury.
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Old 07-02-2004, 12:08 AM   #117
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Nash returning to the Suns for sure, so they're out of the Bryant race.

If the story about Bryant wanting Coach K to take over the Lakers is true, and he does get the job, then it'll all change entirely. There is still the matter of Shaq for the Lakers to deal with though. Without Nash as part of the deal can the Mavs still get him without giving up Dirk?
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Eh. I was gonna get a custom jersey with my own personal nickname for Kobe on the back (i.e. Rapist)
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Old 07-02-2004, 01:17 AM   #119
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WOOOOOOOO, my favorite player in the NBA is now on my team. Steve Nash is officially a Sun. But I guess no Bryant.
 
Old 07-02-2004, 03:15 AM   #120
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Then you would be really cool

I'm liking Nash/Amare/Marion
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