NFL offseason thread. - Page 3

**BCWWF** · 02-17-2005, 02:42 PM

Wadding whats the talk of Hovan rejoining Denny Green in Arizona?

**VonErich Lives** · 02-17-2005, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MoRcHeEbA

yeah it sounds like something my dad had a few years ago they call them "baby strokes" up in canada he should be fine, took my dad about a year to get fully healthy from it again though.

Yeah, there's a report that he suffered a broken blood vessel in his head, but is now sitting up in bed and talking.

**Rain Man** · 02-17-2005, 06:05 PM

Don't like the Patriots but I do like Bruschi and hope everything is ok

**VonErich Lives** · 02-17-2005, 06:22 PM

Yeah, the last report I saw was he still is having headaches, but he been sitting up and talking and "looks fine".

They played the 911 call, his wife called and said they needed and ambulance to take him to Mass General and told the 911 operator her "husband" had numbness on one side of his body and blurred vision. The 911 operator (semi-rudely) said "Well, I can tell you one thing, he's not going to Mass General, from there he'd be going to sturdy" and she said something like "Oh, well, the doctor told me..." and then the stop the recording.

**BCWWF** · 02-17-2005, 10:37 PM

East coast attitude

**VonErich Lives** · 02-18-2005, 03:14 AM

I dunno, I think 911 ops are one of the highest stress/out rates of any job.

That and the guy was right, the job or 911 is to take someone to the nearest hospital capable of handling the problem, otherwise if he died in the amulence they would be liable by going to a futher away hospital. You can call the amulance company direct, rather then 911 (used to do this for my grandmother) then you can pick the hospital and it's still covered by insurance.

That being said, he still endedup and mass general.

**VonErich Lives** · 02-20-2005, 04:45 PM

Some teams just can't manage the cap.

Titans are cutting
Mason, Rolle, Carter, Miller, Holcombe, Nedney.

Wonder how Mason would look in a Pats uniform...

**VonErich Lives** · 02-20-2005, 04:50 PM

Also, there's questions about the possible new Vikings owner.

A business partner of his was invovled in points shaving, plus it appears most his real estate holding are mortgaged and there's question if he has the 150milllion upfront he needs.

He's already apologized for misleading the nfl on some of his finances.

I think this will still go through, first becuse McCombs is bad for the NFL, second the NFL better have clear cut reasons to disallow the first black nfl owner or they're going to get crapped on and probably sued left and right, remember this is a league that has a rule you must interview a minority coach before you can hire a coach or you face fines.

**BCWWF** · 02-20-2005, 05:14 PM

If it doesn't go through then Glen Taylor is already right on deck and will have the team within a week, and Taylor owning the team would probably be even better then Fowler.

**AlphaBean** · 02-20-2005, 05:49 PM

See, Fowler is like Tom Clancy, who wanted the Vikings in 98. Then it came out he owed lots of money in alimony etc. etc., so the deal fell through.

With Glen Taylor, he would have the money, whereas Fowler likely won't, and more importantly, Taylor loves to spend money to win games. For example, the Timberwolves. Who are shooting him in the foot.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 02-20-2005, 05:52 PM

Wow a lot of free agents on the market now with Titans cutting a lot of players. Should be intresting to see what happens

**BCWWF** · 02-20-2005, 06:03 PM

Remember when the Cheifs cut that WR Derrick Alexander or soemthing? He was pretty good and then came to the Vikings and sucked horribly

**AlphaBean** · 02-20-2005, 08:30 PM

Kevin Dyson...

**The Icon of Elisim** · 02-21-2005, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaBean

See, Fowler is like Tom Clancy, who wanted the Vikings in 98. Then it came out he owed lots of money in alimony etc. etc., so the deal fell through.

With Glen Taylor, he would have the money, whereas Fowler likely won't, and more importantly, Taylor loves to spend money to win games. For example, the Timberwolves. Who are shooting him in the foot.

Aren't there rules about owning two sports teams?

I could of sworn the guy who owned the Bucs had to sell them because he owned the Dodgers. But I'm probably misinformed

**DaveWadding** · 02-21-2005, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Icon of Elisim

Aren't there rules about owning two sports teams?

I could of sworn the guy who owned the Bucs had to sell them because he owned the Dodgers. But I'm probably misinformed

I don't think so...

I mean the guy that owns the Tampa Bay Lightning owns the Pistons

**AlphaBean** · 02-21-2005, 12:51 AM

Don't forget the Shock!

But usually an owner shouldn't own two teams because that's a lot of money and time.

**BCWWF** · 02-21-2005, 12:52 AM

I don't think so, because in the Twin Cities media there is always talk about how Taylor was going to be the guy, and even now people still say he is the guy. Maybe some of the league just don't want owners to have two teams, I could see that, but in Taylors case he is one of the only people who has the ability and credibility to locally own teams in Minnesota, so thats probably why.

**VonErich Lives** · 02-21-2005, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Icon of Elisim

Aren't there rules about owning two sports teams?

I could of sworn the guy who owned the Bucs had to sell them because he owned the Dodgers. But I'm probably misinformed

I'm pretty sure you're right, the NFL won't let you own another sports franchise and an NFL team.

**DaveWadding** · 02-21-2005, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaBean

Don't forget the Shock!

But usually an owner shouldn't own two teams because that's a lot of money and time.

Like anyone considers the WNBA a real sport.

**BCWWF** · 02-21-2005, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by VonErich Lives

I'm pretty sure you're right, the NFL won't let you own another sports franchise and an NFL team.

That wasn't mentioned at all that I saw when Glen Taylor was trying to buy the Vikings?

**VonErich Lives** · 02-21-2005, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

That wasn't mentioned at all that I saw when Glen Taylor was trying to buy the Vikings?

Dunno, maybe the NFL changed that... but thought it was a rule, maybe I'm thinking of another sport...

**BCWWF** · 02-21-2005, 07:34 PM

Probably boxing

**Rain Man** · 02-21-2005, 07:44 PM

Coles wants out of Washington I saw today on PTI

**MoRcHeEbA** · 02-21-2005, 08:57 PM

95 catches in a year wassn't enough for him

**AlphaBean** · 02-21-2005, 09:01 PM

I suppose that missing the playoffs in the NFC that the fucking Vikings made it, is a pretty big turn-off to someone who wants to win championships.

**MoRcHeEbA** · 02-21-2005, 09:06 PM

so you're saying he should sign with the vikings

**AlphaBean** · 02-21-2005, 09:15 PM

Hey, don't you agree?

Nah I don't know that I want him here. Though him opposite Moss with Burleson in the slot would be nice.

**BCWWF** · 02-21-2005, 10:54 PM

I've always been a fan of Coles

**AlphaBean** · 02-21-2005, 11:02 PM

He's a burner, but isn't he frail? We have had too many overrated injury-prone fools here lately. Put that next to 150 pound randy moss, we need someone more physical. Like a healthy marcus robinson.

**VonErich Lives** · 02-22-2005, 12:10 PM

Seattle resigned Hasselback, and are now putting the tag on Alexander.

**Gonzo** · 02-23-2005, 11:41 AM

Bledsoe will be in Dallas next year.

Giants cut 5 players, most notably FS Omar Stoutmire and CB Terry Cousin. Stoutmire played FS for a couple years up until last year when he had a season ending injury. Cousin was a CB until the Giants injury plagued secondary forced him to move to Safety.

Anyways, nothing too bad.

**#1-norm-fan** · 02-24-2005, 03:23 AM

BLEDSOOOOOEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

I like him. Dunno if he can still get it done or not... he's just a cool guy.

I was getting more and more excited as I watched the press conference today. He was trying to hold back a smile when he first sat down and all. I was the biggest Drew Bledsoe mark in the world when the Pats drafted him. Now hes in Dallas. I'm so happy, yet so nervous,

**The Outlaw** · 02-24-2005, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveWadding

Suggs = AZ State boiiii reppin

and Suggs > Thomas

Thank you Captain Obvious.

Wonder how Alexander likes the tag?

Also, any update on teddy?

**KingofOldSchool** · 02-25-2005, 09:11 PM

Pats released Ty Law
Seahawks released Jerry Rice
Panthers also released Mushin Muhammed

**Gonzo** · 02-25-2005, 09:16 PM

I was shocked about the Panthers move. Cap is tough I suppose.

Rice should retire. Law and Muhammed should make nice acquisitions for some other teams.

**KingofOldSchool** · 02-25-2005, 09:19 PM

I see Muhammed going to either Atlanta, Minnesota, or Baltimore.

**Gonzo** · 02-25-2005, 09:26 PM

I can't see him in Minnesota, but I do see him in Baltimore. Minnesota has the 7th pick from the trade so I think for a WR they will go that route. Baltimore would be a nice fit for Muhammed.

**AlphaBean** · 02-25-2005, 10:06 PM

Rice would be a great slot WR for a team that needs a slot WR. He's still got great hands, is in great shape. He may not have the tools, but a slot WR doesn't need them. You just need to know where the marker is. And Rice has that. I see Rice finding a team.

Moose is a Robinson/Burleson type WR. We either need Burress, or Edwards. Unless a faster WR becomes available. Mike Williams, I don't know. He's too slow. We need a deep threat.

**Gonzo** · 02-25-2005, 10:50 PM

Muhammed seems like a possession type guy. If the Vikings go to a run oriented offense that can't be all bad.

You have three backs with the potential to be good provided they develop a decent system, so I could see the Vikings try to do that.

**AlphaBean** · 02-26-2005, 12:03 AM

But see, when we had Moss, no team would ever put 8 in the box against us, because that would leave them vulnerable to being torched deep. Now, teams won't have to respect the deep ball, because our fastest guy is Kelly Campbell, and well, he's not much of a threat.

Not to mention in jail.

So we need good production out of our O-line next year, and we need Kleinsasser and Rosenthal to come back 100%.

02-17-2005, 02:42 PM	#81
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Wadding whats the talk of Hovan rejoining Denny Green in Arizona?

02-17-2005, 06:05 PM	#83
Rain Man MoeFREAK Posts: 1,682	Don't like the Patriots but I do like Bruschi and hope everything is ok

02-17-2005, 06:22 PM	#84
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Yeah, the last report I saw was he still is having headaches, but he been sitting up and talking and "looks fine". They played the 911 call, his wife called and said they needed and ambulance to take him to Mass General and told the 911 operator her "husband" had numbness on one side of his body and blurred vision. The 911 operator (semi-rudely) said "Well, I can tell you one thing, he's not going to Mass General, from there he'd be going to sturdy" and she said something like "Oh, well, the doctor told me..." and then the stop the recording.

02-17-2005, 10:37 PM	#85
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	East coast attitude

02-18-2005, 03:14 AM	#86
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	I dunno, I think 911 ops are one of the highest stress/out rates of any job. That and the guy was right, the job or 911 is to take someone to the nearest hospital capable of handling the problem, otherwise if he died in the amulence they would be liable by going to a futher away hospital. You can call the amulance company direct, rather then 911 (used to do this for my grandmother) then you can pick the hospital and it's still covered by insurance. That being said, he still endedup and mass general.

02-20-2005, 04:45 PM	#87
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Some teams just can't manage the cap. Titans are cutting Mason, Rolle, Carter, Miller, Holcombe, Nedney. Wonder how Mason would look in a Pats uniform...

02-20-2005, 04:50 PM	#88
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Also, there's questions about the possible new Vikings owner. A business partner of his was invovled in points shaving, plus it appears most his real estate holding are mortgaged and there's question if he has the 150milllion upfront he needs. He's already apologized for misleading the nfl on some of his finances. I think this will still go through, first becuse McCombs is bad for the NFL, second the NFL better have clear cut reasons to disallow the first black nfl owner or they're going to get crapped on and probably sued left and right, remember this is a league that has a rule you must interview a minority coach before you can hire a coach or you face fines.

02-20-2005, 05:14 PM	#89
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	If it doesn't go through then Glen Taylor is already right on deck and will have the team within a week, and Taylor owning the team would probably be even better then Fowler.

02-20-2005, 05:49 PM	#90
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	See, Fowler is like Tom Clancy, who wanted the Vikings in 98. Then it came out he owed lots of money in alimony etc. etc., so the deal fell through. With Glen Taylor, he would have the money, whereas Fowler likely won't, and more importantly, Taylor loves to spend money to win games. For example, the Timberwolves. Who are shooting him in the foot.

02-20-2005, 05:52 PM	#91
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Wow a lot of free agents on the market now with Titans cutting a lot of players. Should be intresting to see what happens

02-20-2005, 06:03 PM	#92
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Remember when the Cheifs cut that WR Derrick Alexander or soemthing? He was pretty good and then came to the Vikings and sucked horribly

02-20-2005, 08:30 PM	#93
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	Kevin Dyson...

02-21-2005, 12:51 AM	#96
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	Don't forget the Shock! But usually an owner shouldn't own two teams because that's a lot of money and time.

02-21-2005, 12:52 AM	#97
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I don't think so, because in the Twin Cities media there is always talk about how Taylor was going to be the guy, and even now people still say he is the guy. Maybe some of the league just don't want owners to have two teams, I could see that, but in Taylors case he is one of the only people who has the ability and credibility to locally own teams in Minnesota, so thats probably why.

02-21-2005, 07:34 PM	#102
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Probably boxing

02-21-2005, 07:44 PM	#103
Rain Man MoeFREAK Posts: 1,682	Coles wants out of Washington I saw today on PTI

02-21-2005, 08:57 PM	#104
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	95 catches in a year wassn't enough for him

02-21-2005, 09:01 PM	#105
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	I suppose that missing the playoffs in the NFC that the fucking Vikings made it, is a pretty big turn-off to someone who wants to win championships.

02-21-2005, 09:06 PM	#106
MoRcHeEbA Dirty Sanchez Below Posts: 16,149	so you're saying he should sign with the vikings

02-21-2005, 09:15 PM	#107
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	Hey, don't you agree? Nah I don't know that I want him here. Though him opposite Moss with Burleson in the slot would be nice.

02-21-2005, 10:54 PM	#108
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I've always been a fan of Coles

02-21-2005, 11:02 PM	#109
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	He's a burner, but isn't he frail? We have had too many overrated injury-prone fools here lately. Put that next to 150 pound randy moss, we need someone more physical. Like a healthy marcus robinson.

02-22-2005, 12:10 PM	#110
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Seattle resigned Hasselback, and are now putting the tag on Alexander.

02-23-2005, 11:41 AM	#111
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	Bledsoe will be in Dallas next year. Giants cut 5 players, most notably FS Omar Stoutmire and CB Terry Cousin. Stoutmire played FS for a couple years up until last year when he had a season ending injury. Cousin was a CB until the Giants injury plagued secondary forced him to move to Safety. Anyways, nothing too bad.

02-24-2005, 03:23 AM	#112
#1-norm-fan Resident drug enabler Posts: 45,473	BLEDSOOOOOEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! I like him. Dunno if he can still get it done or not... he's just a cool guy. I was getting more and more excited as I watched the press conference today. He was trying to hold back a smile when he first sat down and all. I was the biggest Drew Bledsoe mark in the world when the Pats drafted him. Now hes in Dallas. I'm so happy, yet so nervous,

02-25-2005, 09:11 PM	#114
KingofOldSchool ...IN HD!!!! Posts: 23,327	Pats released Ty Law Seahawks released Jerry Rice Panthers also released Mushin Muhammed

02-25-2005, 09:16 PM	#115
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	I was shocked about the Panthers move. Cap is tough I suppose. Rice should retire. Law and Muhammed should make nice acquisitions for some other teams.

02-25-2005, 09:19 PM	#116
KingofOldSchool ...IN HD!!!! Posts: 23,327	I see Muhammed going to either Atlanta, Minnesota, or Baltimore.

02-25-2005, 09:26 PM	#117
Gonzo feel the madness Posts: 11,360	I can't see him in Minnesota, but I do see him in Baltimore. Minnesota has the 7th pick from the trade so I think for a WR they will go that route. Baltimore would be a nice fit for Muhammed.

02-25-2005, 10:06 PM	#118
AlphaBean Happy Inside Posts: 18,970	Rice would be a great slot WR for a team that needs a slot WR. He's still got great hands, is in great shape. He may not have the tools, but a slot WR doesn't need them. You just need to know where the marker is. And Rice has that. I see Rice finding a team. Moose is a Robinson/Burleson type WR. We either need Burress, or Edwards. Unless a faster WR becomes available. Mike Williams, I don't know. He's too slow. We need a deep threat.