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Orochi Maverick
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Could someone explain the "WWE is cyclical" philosophy to me. Personally I don't believe it...
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Dude, just let it go. People that are getting on your case are not "Kane Clones". They are saying nearly the same thing because it seems that you just don't understand what you are doing. I kept my mouth shut in the other thread, but this shit is ridiculous. Nobody here is on your case because of your views on things, they are on your case because you repeatedly contradict your own views. Saying things like... "If Triple H is using backstage politics, I don't support that" To which someone then replies... "It's obvious with the direction the show has been going, and Pat Patterson even quitting over it" And then you say... "Well, if you watch Raw it's obvious that he does use backstage politics to keep himself the champion" This is why everyone is on your case. Do you not see what you just did there? You say you are skeptical on whether or not he uses back stage politics, then when someone calls you on it, you immediately change your view on things by stating it's obvious that he does it, and then proceed to try and say that you never said "IF", when you clearly did. That's why we have the magical quote button. Just because someone tries to debate with you on your stance, does not mean you have to go back and try to change or cover up what you said to start. Defend your position with an intelligent post and people will respect it, even if they still call you a dumbass. |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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You know, Olympic Hitman is very much like Triple H. Long, boring posts that could say the same thing in 1/5 the time. No wonder he's got such problems with the issue.
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Wrong, once again. I have never contradicted myself; What I have done is clarified & re-clarified my opinion on things, to the point where some think it's "contradictory". Take the Triple H issue; I said "if Triple H used politics to stay on top, I wouldn't respect him", which indeed, I would not. Staying on top that way is neither ethical nor fair; HOWEVER, I'm not blind. I do realize that Trips must use politics to stay on top over and over. The thing is, I'm not sure HOW MUCH of that politicking is to be credited FULLY to Triple H. It seems as though Vince & Steph have motives for keep Trips at the top. Now, my not being sure about how much blame belongs to Mr. Game may seem contradictory, but, it isn't. It is depth. I can't refuse to see obvious signs that Trips is a politician. I never came out and said "TRIPLE H IS NOT A POLITICIAN". Nowhere in my posts did I say he wasn't. I simply said I wouldn't respect him if he used politics, which is my view on it. This was an assumption made by Kane Knight solely and then was again assumed by everyone that followed to flame me[which is why I called them "clones", because they were following the same train of illogical thoughts for assuming a not said fact or statement]. I am very aware Triple H is involved with booking meetings as well as personal input on his character; Which brings me to my "this is why Triple H takes up one-hour of a two-hour show" comment I made earlier. I said that because it is FACT. Anyone that watches RAW notices this immediately. It is the most obvious of any obvious statements you could make about pro wrestling today. Bottom line is I WILL NOT admit being wrong, when clearly, Mr. Knight was the king of assumption. He assumed I had said Triple H wasn't a politician, when infact, I never actually said those exact words. Does anyone even BEGIN to see my point? Is it even vaguely gettin' clearer? I said I won't respect the guy for staying on top by politics, but, I never said he didn't use them. Thank you, for replying so I could clarify ONCE AGAIN |
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It's ALL True....
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Funny, how you berate me for "long boring" posts when you have seemingly devoted a week worth of posting, several LONG DRAWN out posts, and much more effort trying to make me look dumb, when, all I was tryin to do was give my opinion on a set topic. It was you who was hell-bent on your mission to mess with Mr "fuckwitted" Olympic Hitman, as you referred to me as . Again, unimaginary and very telling of your character as a person. You don't know me, yet, call me 'fuckwitted'. And you can't blame my posting for me being 'fuckwitted' as basically every word I type were either fact[politics part] or opinion[well-backed up by the fact that McMahon is ALSO involved with the creative process]. Meanwhile, I've NEVER called you anything. That's simply out of respect for other people's views. Which again, you don't seem to reciprocate; which is fine. Just don't expect me NOT to point it out. The only reason I even bother replying back is to prove my point; you are the one who assumed, therefore, making you wrong. Had I been wrong, I'd have admitted it; as you did own me in the "Jesus" thread . I let my opinion cloud my factual judgement and it bit me in the ass; well-done;However, you bit off more than you could chew with me in the TNA arguement. I've watched TNA since it began airing on Fox Sports and even before that when it only aired on $9.95-a-week PPVs. So, I knew my facts, And on the Triple H issue, I pretty much stated factual info and merged my personal opinion with it. Whilst this came off as "contradictory" to some, it made sense as a whole. My point and view= Triple H------- Politician-Yes Good champ-Yes, in his time, but it has passed and is gettin old Completely to blame-NOPE;which again was where KK made his assumption mistake and which was his entire defense against me, which made sense in NO Way. |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Damn. You're skilled. I envy your ability to insist you've never contradicted yourself, despite plenty of statements to the contrary. Your ability to ignore everything, to make things up on the spot and believe them despite the obvious lack of basis in reality is totally amazing.
If you put anything even remotely worth debating, people would debate it. But like Triple H, you've been saying the same stale thing over and over. Well, things, really, but pretty much everything you post backtracks on something else you said and trying desperately to come up with any way to retaliate. Basically, you've cut the same promo over and over again, and there's no point in debating with you because you're too dense to get it. IT's not that the whole world is against you, it's that you make some really dumb points. You got called on them. Big deal. Grow up and get on with it. For someone who preached that I was childish, you certainly can't handle acting mature.
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Stop claiming I was the one making an assumption. You put forth a statement that meant one thing, and then claimed it meant another. While it may have been a mistake, you intended to say something else, you didn't, and the mistake is yours. Either that, or you're backtracking, and the mistake is yours. |
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TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04
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All I have to say is this:
A) Shut up you ignorant ass. B) +1 |
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TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04
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C) +2
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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D) There is no E.
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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E) D is false.
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brothas gonna work it out
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I read one of your posts and that's enough, you should realize it too. All you're doing is making really long replies proving to noone any credence besides your own opinion, do something else. |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Do you mean explain it to you, or make an argument for its effectiveness? Because if you don't believe it, that sounds like you already know OF it, you just don't know WHY people buy it. |
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It's ALL True....
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It's utterly pathetic how far you've sunk. First, you said I'm wrong[when you ASSUMED I said Triple H wasn't a politician]. Then, you say I'm back-tracking to cover myself; Go back to post one of the Triple H post [injury neck post]. Then, look at my VERY FIRST reply. Notice that not only have I been saying the same things, I NEVER said "Triple H doesn't use politics" or did I say directly "Triple H has NEVER used politics". Saying something along those lines WOULD be wrong. I said Triple H was BY FAR the best, which he is now. He's a ten-time World Champ. Who else on RAW can even come close? NO ONE. That was my point in post one. That Triple H is a good wrestler and that he's not ENTIRELY to blame for his situation..... This is when you came in a threw your "hissyfit" about how I was "fuckwitted" and knew nothing, when, obviously, YOU had done the assuming. You say I said one thing and meant another; How do you know that? Is the great Kane Knight now able to read minds? Or is that a defense mechanism for knowing you've been owned and told as it is. Like I said; I have NO problem admitting when I'm wrong, as I'm not perfect. I just pisses me off the way Kane Knight masquerades around TPWW as the know-it-all and wants to shut this newbie up, when, apparently, he can't follow his OWN trail of ASSUMPTIONS & FLAMING, which have been your trademarks throughout this entire ordeal; And to James Steele; Chill, bro. If you get any further on Knight's side about telling me to "stf up", then, you could be removed from his ass with a welding torch....... Think what you want of me, but, I'm not going away and WILL NOT shut up. People accuse me of being illogical? Hardly. My arguements have been rather well-thought out and in-depth to the point that it is scary. Yet, since we have mindless anti-Triple H zombies on a rumor message board, they refuse to even accept a difference of views. Well, it's not my fault you hate the guy. Don't be ignorant and base personal opinion of the guy with fact. If anything, I've fully backed up my logic about Trips with FACT. It's a FACT that he's a top star. FACT; he's a politician. FACT; Vince is to blame for either; A]Listening to HHH's politicking or B]Not listening to the truth Whatever the case may be, it still stands that HHH cannot be blamed for it all. That was my point, still is, and will be until we have concrete proof of otherwise..... |
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Shadow Conspircy leader
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Seriouslly dude, give it up. You've painted yourself right into a corner. It's been amusing to watch you squirm but now I'm bored. Begone foul knave, lest I let loose the dogs of war and cry Wolfsbane. Rep for people who think they know what I'm talking 'bout. |
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Instant Credibility
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A rebel without a soul.
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Okay, don't post much here, I come and read to find out stuff I don't normally have access to. Well, normally shouldn't be the word. I don't come here to attempt to read a post by some IDIOT who knows shit about wrestling and constently contradicts himself and just can't give up when he's been beaten. OVER AND OVER AGAIN...So, hey I'm about to get my gun hunt down Olympic Hitman and kill his lame ass. So I don't ever have to read another one of his Lame ass Posts, again!
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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I'm all there is
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Lose Cannon, could you make him a mod?
Coz then he could finally edit everyone else so they're sayinf what he claims they're saying. |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Oops. I made a typo. Can't wait for Hitman to jump on that like a fat girl on a twinkie.
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A rebel without a soul.
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04
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Olympic Hitman made me just piss myself, HELP ME KANE KNIGHT...HELP ME!
Oh and STF Up! |
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TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04
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you ignorant ass.
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It's ALL True....
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This is becoming rapidly ridiculous and awfully idiotic at about the same time; So, let me make it simply by asking an EASY question; HOW HAVE I ONCE CONTRADICTED MYSELF? I have clarified my view on point-after-point and all I get in return is flaming and not a reply, so, how did I contradict myself? I have backed EVERY SINGLE thing I EVER said up and haven't changed on it. While I did have to point out the obvious depth of my opinion, I never once changed anything I said[since most assumed that I said Trips wasn't a politician when I said " I wouldn't respect him if he used them to stay on top", which was a broad statement. It NEVER meant I didn't believe Trips didn't use politics, big DIFFERENCE ]. In my initial HHH post I said he was a good wrestler, that I wouldn't respect him if he did use politics. I then said it was obvious that because of his LONG title reigns and the focus of RAW being on him, it was OBVIOUS that he was somehow involved in them;To what degree, I dunno and don't care; I've yet to get a concrete answer on how I EVER contradicted myself[the only thing I've seen is incoherrent rambling by KK and flaming to make himself feel better about the fact that he ASSUMED a not said fact. He's been backtracking ever since and it simply AMAZES me that everyone else cannot see my side and automatically assume that KK is right]. Oh well, further proves that posters around TPWW have no honor[at least not the ones who flamed, I have encountered some intelligent posters, that haven't yet flamed me; although the number gets smaller as the countless zombies follow KK's logic and take his side]. Bottom line; show me I'm wrong and I'll admit it; if not, stop assuming and admit you ASSUMED that I said "Triple H NEVER used politics[which again I NEVER said]. Go back and look at your 2 or 3 reply after I said it was obvious Trips uses politics to stay on top. In that post alone, you proved my point; which was that you ASSUMED that I said Triple H wasn't a "politician". I simply said he was a good wrestler and I wouldn't respect him if he were FULLY to blame for his politicking[which again, I said before Vince seems to have motives for keeping Gamester on top]. |
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Definitions of contradiction on the Web:
opposition between two conflicting forces or ideas (logic) a statement that is necessarily false; "the statement `he is brave and he is not brave' is a contradiction" the speech act of contradicting someone; "he spoke as if he thought his claims were immune to contradiction" www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn Broadly speaking, a contradiction is when two or more statements, ideas, or actions are seen as incompatible. One must, it seems, reject at least one of the ideas outright. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contradiction a conjunction of a proposition and its negation, which, according to the principle of non-contradiction, cannot be true. Aristotle pointed out the dangers of accepting contradictions. Except in some specially designed logics, anything can follow from a contradiction. www.filosofia.net/materiales/rec/glosaen.htm refers to the opposition between two propositions which cannot both be false together and cannot both be true together. ( Study 2) www2.sjsu.edu/faculty/carranza/glossary.htm A contradiction occurs when one asserts two mutually exclusive propositions, such as, "Abortion is wrong and abortion is not wrong." Since a claim and its contradictory cannot both be true, one of them must be false. Few people will assert an outright contradiction, but one may fall into an inconsistency. Counterexample http://www.philosophy.uncc.edu/mleld.../logiglos.html A contradiction is committed whenever propositions that deny one another (contradictory propositions) are both held to be true or both held to be false. Eg, accepting both that "Robins are red" and "Robins are not red" as true is a contradiction. info1.nwmissouri.edu/~rfield/gloss.html Two sentences, A and B, are contradictory = A and B cannot both be true, whenever A is true, B is false and vice versa; a situation describable by A cannot be describable by B the conjunction of A and B can never be true there is no situation that can be describable by the conjunction of A and B What are some problems with these proposed definitions? http://www.hum.utah.edu/~phanna/clas...schapter1.html There's many definitions of contradiction. It has been pointed out numerous times how you have done this. If you still can't see it, than I can't help you anymore. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul. |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Seriously, how did the Triple H discussion end up in this thread? It's as if olympic hitman is spreading like some sort of cancer.
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Shadow Conspircy leader
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Fuck that shit. I'M KING ARTHUR.
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That Guy
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Mas Vagina Porfavor
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As soon as I saw this thread made it to 2 pages I knew some dumbass newbie was probably spamming.
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He's a crafty one, this olympic hitman. |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Though if you want to be my Klone... |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Ouch. hardly a step up. Apologies if I spelled pwnd wrong. |
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That Guy
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And here we are today... Happy, healthy, and needing a cigarette. |
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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