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Old 07-02-2005, 03:52 PM   #81
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Old 07-02-2005, 03:55 PM   #82
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Here is what I don't understand about Prodigy's position.

You would stop watching wrestling if Christian won one of the World Titles, yet in the past 25 years we have seen some TERRIBLE World Champs carry the belt, but you didn't stop watching then. More then that we see perfectly average people rise to hold the World Title all the time. So what is it about Christian that you have so much distain for. For the love of god, I didn't watch wrestling when Hogan won his 6th WWE Title, but I came back after he lost it. So why the big poo-poo on Christian?

Also some other things struck me as odd. You point that Christian is only a draw to internet fans (I humblely disagree and think you only need to watch recent RAWs to hear his reactions are bigger then most of the rosters) but then you bring up a guy like Raven as an example of a great wrestler. Now don't get me wrong, I love Raven, absolutly LOVE him. But even I can admit his drawing pool is not very large and is contained more or less to the Internet/former ECW fans. Also you mentioned in the ring Christian isn't very impressive. Though I disagree entirly, I have to point out that Raven is certainly not in a position to give quality matches anymore. He just doesn't have alot more left in him. I mean go back and watch alot of his recent word, more specifically his NWA World Title win, he didn't do more then 6 or 7 moves, and the rest of the match he either laying on the ground around the ring out or in the cage, and actually most of his recent TNA and other matches have had him doing very little.

Oh and a real quick side note, Jeff Hardy isn't Charismatic? Come on now. I don't like the guy, but he has some hardcore charsima. Not at the level of some wrestling icons, that's for sure, but he is a very charismatic man.

You can dislike Christian, and I will be the first to say I don't think he is even in the top 25% for in ring work. But his promos are funny, and he as well is charismatic. You don't have to personally be enticed by someone's charisma to know they are charismatic. Hell I fucking hate Hogan, but it would be impossible for me NOT to at least admit that he has charisma.
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Old 07-02-2005, 03:59 PM   #83
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You would stop watching wrestling if Christian won one of the World Titles, yet in the past 25 years we have seen some TERRIBLE World Champs carry the belt.
Prod, did you stop watching when Arquette and McMahon had their title reigns?
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Old 07-02-2005, 04:40 PM   #84
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Oh and a real quick side note, Jeff Hardy isn't Charismatic? Come on now. I don't like the guy, but he has some hardcore charsima. Not at the level of some wrestling icons, that's for sure, but he is a very charismatic man.
Most people equate Charisma with either 1) Likability or 2) Mic skills.

While both are viable ASPECTS fo charisma, the main definition of Charisma is:

A rare personal quality attributed to leaders who arouse fervent popular devotion and enthusiasm.

While hardly a leader in any real sense, he has a pretty hardcore fanbase of druggies and 12 year old girls (The Southwood following) who LOVE him.

I think the reason he's called the " Charismatic Enigma" is that nobody can figure out WHAT THE FUCK these idiots see in him.
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Old 07-02-2005, 04:44 PM   #85
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Prod, did you stop watching when Arquette and McMahon had their title reigns?
He didn't, but like me (and other true wrestling fans) he blocked it out.
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Old 07-02-2005, 05:02 PM   #86
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He didn't, but like me (and other true wrestling fans) he blocked it out.
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Old 07-02-2005, 05:37 PM   #87
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I think the reason he's called the " Charismatic Enigma" is that nobody can figure out WHAT THE FUCK these idiots see in him.

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Old 07-03-2005, 07:07 AM   #88
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A couple of weeks before he was drafted, Christian said that if he were traded he'd love to feud with Booker T. And after watching Smackdown, I assume that's what's gonna happen.
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:10 PM   #89
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Exactly.
Now you're just making even less sense. Why in the hell would you just block those title reigns out of your mind but insist on never watching wrestling again if Xtian were to win the title?
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Old 07-03-2005, 04:55 PM   #90
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I think the reason he's called the " Charismatic Enigma" is that nobody can figure out WHAT THE FUCK these idiots see in him.
I think it's the elf thing he's got going for him.

LOOK AT THE EARS MAN! LOOK AT THE FUCKING EARS!
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Old 07-03-2005, 06:55 PM   #91
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Now you're just making even less sense. Why in the hell would you just block those title reigns out of your mind but insist on never watching wrestling again if Xtian were to win the title?
Because those title reigns weren't meant to be taken seriously. It was Russo's idea to put the WCW World title on David Arquette and that was all because of that stupid movie and Vince McMahon gave himself the World title because he didn't think people would expect it and he wanted to turn up the volume on his heel heat because he had a lack of major heels to feud with Austin during that time. I probably wouldn't quit watching WWE completely if Christian won the title but I would be majorly disappointed. I just don't think he would be taken seriously as World Champion because of the reasons I've mentioned a 100 times already. I just don't like him and I think giving him the World title would be ignorant as I think he would drop the ball. Hell I've heard some people say Chris Benoit dropped the ball so what makes you think Christian would be such a great world champ?

The champion, whether it be WWE or World Heavyweight, has a huge load to carry. If the company is not successful, ratings-wise, then they blame the Champion. If Christian were given a World title run and he dropped the ball and they took the title back off of him then I can almost guarantee from that point on he'd be de-pushed just like so many "ball-droppers" have in the past. Before you know it he'd be doing the job to Nunzio on one of the B-shows. Bottom line is, Christian just isn't World title material.
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Old 07-03-2005, 07:01 PM   #92
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Who the hell said Chris Benoit dropped the ball? I'll fucking kill them.
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I think it's the elf thing he's got going for him.

LOOK AT THE EARS MAN! LOOK AT THE FUCKING EARS!
Okay, no more pot for you for a while.
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