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Old 07-12-2005, 08:42 AM   #81
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Right if the Matt Hardy thing is a work, what does that make him to the fans? I mean he's a face to half of the internet community who thought he got a shitty deal by being released but he is the biggest arsehole to live to his psycho fans who go to the Matt Hardy boards offering their support. To the regular fans who don't have the internet he's a face because of the references Edge and Lita have been making over the last few weeks.

It's a really good angle based on what some of you have said, you can't tell 100% what were the real parts and what are the works. You could branch out into 100 different combinations of what happened from complete all out work from the very beginning i.e Edge/Lita/Hardy idea for a storyline to complete real events. The genius about this is you don't know what is going to happen next.

Certainly a highlight of the year.
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:52 AM   #82
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...and you never know where I'll show up on Sunday.
If Hardy shows up at the TNA PPV this Sunday, I will be fucking BEYOND confused...
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:20 AM   #83
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Yeah if Matt Hardy has a pay per appearance deal with every major promotion, it would be as funny as fuck.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:25 AM   #84
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Man,im totally believing this was a shoot now. I mean Hardy got arrested and yet still had time to write up a message on his website the same day .
What's funny is that we were all supposed to be loving HBK's turn last night. And all we can talk about it Matt Fucking Hardy
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:56 AM   #85
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:30 AM   #86
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Yeah...or it's all just a shoot.
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Old 07-12-2005, 11:56 AM   #87
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What's funny is that we were all supposed to be loving HBK's turn last night. And all we can talk about it Matt Fucking Hardy
Yeah. I don't know why. Could it be Michaels was boring last night?
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Old 07-12-2005, 11:58 AM   #88
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Man,im totally believing this was a shoot now. I mean Hardy got arrested and yet still had time to write up a message on his website the same day .
Of course it's real. I mean, he could have been bailed out at 11 PM at night. It happens all the time (Even though there was no way he could have been seen by a judge until Today).
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Old 07-12-2005, 11:58 AM   #89
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I don't get Hardy fans.

A week ago, a typical MFer would say, "I hate the WWE! They fired Matt so I won't ever see him on my TV again! What they should have done was given him a huge angle to work with that would help in pushing him to the moon. I hate the WWE and I'll never watch their shows again!"

Today it's "I hate you Matt. You're a sellout. Even though I said I'd never watch the hated WWE ever again, I watched it and saw you on their show last night, and now I hate you because you're a sellout and a liar! The WWE sucks because they tricked me into thinking you're gone, but then they gave you an angle that could potentially be as big as the Outsiders. V.1 could be the next nWo and you're probably gonna be successful now. I hate you for that."

Then they probably go out and burn the emo mix tape they made for when they're feeling like crying in their pillow for unemployed Matt. They call their other MFer friends over so they can have a big bonfire with their mix tapes, and afterwards they all gorge themselves on icecream and make new emo mix tapes with the exact same songs in the same order and label them "Matt suxorzzZ" and listen to them when they go online and tell everyone on the internet that Matt really has "X-pac heat." Then they cry in their pillows over still employed Matt.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:00 PM   #90
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I don't get Hardy fans.

A week ago, a typical MFer would say, "I hate the WWE! They fired Matt so I won't ever see him on my TV again! What they should have done was given him a huge angle to work with that would help in pushing him to the moon. I hate the WWE and I'll never watch their shows again!"

Today it's "I hate you Matt. You're a sellout. Even though I said I'd never watch the hated WWE ever again, I watched it and saw you on their show last night, and now I hate you because you're a sellout and a liar! The WWE sucks because they tricked me into thinking you're gone, but then they gave you an angle that could potentially be as big as the Outsiders. V.1 could be the next nWo and you're probably gonna be successful now. I hate you for that."

Then they probably go out and burn the emo mix tape they made for when they're feeling like crying in their pillow for unemployed Matt. They call their other MFer friends over so they can have a big bonfire with their mix tapes, and afterwards they all gorge themselves on icecream and make new emo mix tapes with the exact same songs in the same order and label them "Matt suxorzzZ" and listen to them when they go online and tell everyone on the internet that Matt really has "X-pac heat." Then they cry in their pillows over still employed Matt.
Wow. Because 2 or 3 people started flipping out over Matt rejoining the WWE, you make a generalisation of his fans. JEsus Christ man, no wonder you got so huffy over Christian comments. You probably think everyone's as big a bigoted asshole as you are.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:20 PM   #91
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I know its an angle now. But where the angle started and the reality ended..I just don't know. That's the brilliance.
Precisely. And it's all starting to make sense now. Remember when WWE.com suddenly started advertising their releases? I don't mean just recently, I mean starting with Rhyno, Molly Holly, all those. One can argue that it started with Rhyno. They were just testing the waters, to see how people would react to seeing a released superstar on WWE programming (albeit ECW was used as a coverup). If it weren't for the Diva Search, I'd say that Molly Holly would return soon as well.

I'm interested in seeing how this "antikayfabe" stuff all works out.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:22 PM   #92
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:35 PM   #93
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:59 PM   #94
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LOL @ the Matt Hardy fanboys/girls. Well, the turncoats and the ones who think it was real.

Matt shouldn't have posted the message... keep us in suspense. You post that and it basically invalidates the mystery. Getting arrested and then posting a message so quickly? Yeah... ok... like anyone who really got arrested would then make a threat so fast.

So unwise move on Matt by posting, but other than that, this has been a pretty awesome way of taking advantage of what's happened.

For the record, I say Matt Hardy really was fired, but Vince will never hesitate to hire back people to make money. And I'm sure money heals a lot of wounds.
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:10 PM   #95
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LOL @ the Matt Hardy fanboys/girls. Well, the turncoats and the ones who think it was real.
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For the record, I say Matt Hardy really was fired, but Vince will never hesitate to hire back people to make money. And I'm sure money heals a lot of wounds.
The ones who think it's real are the saddest. With all the empathy poured towards Matt, I can't totally blame the fanboys for feeling betrayed. He did cash in on all his sympathy...

...And yes, I don't get why people seem to think it's unreasonable to think that Matt was fired, and then rehired. I mean, not only has it happened before, but the response from the fans was OVERWHELIMING.
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:17 PM   #96
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That is very possible, but that's part of it. I think the goal of wrestling is to "Suspend Disbelief." That goal was accomplished last night.
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:20 PM   #97
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So Matt wasn't really fired...interesting




Mabye there is hope D-X will come back and we will forever live in the attitude era.
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:25 PM   #98
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That is very possible, but that's part of it. I think the goal of wrestling is to "Suspend Disbelief." That goal was accomplished last night.
The goal of wrestling is to entertain. How that is accomplished depends on who's doing it.
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:26 PM   #99
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So Matt wasn't really fired...interesting




Mabye there is hope D-X will come back and we will forever live in the attitude era.
DX is back. How Who do you think insisted Lesnar return?
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The goal of wrestling is to entertain. How that is accomplished depends on who's doing it.
Dam straight, there's never been a better time to be a smark, or further more, a smark on a wrestling forum.

Seriously, this is entertaining as hell, and for the first time in several weeks I'm watching Raw with anticipation rather than the unusual notion of feeling obliged to watch.
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Old 07-12-2005, 02:17 PM   #101
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Try talking to some of these idiots. The all belive it's either real or Matt's a sellout.
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Try talking to some of these idiots. The all belive it's either real or Matt's a sellout.
They're both right.
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Try talking to some of these idiots. The all belive it's either real or Matt's a sellout.

They're angry because they're naive, guliable and got fooled big time.
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Or think that they've got some "special" connection to Matt because he posts on an internet message boad.

They've got more of a connection to my ass than they do to Matt Hardy.
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Old 07-12-2005, 02:40 PM   #106
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...They've got more of a connection to my ass than they do to Matt Hardy.

Aren't they the same thing?

BWAAAA HAAA HAAA HAA HAA....
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Posted this to a friend explaining the sitch to him. Checklist for anyone who thinks this was a shoot.

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Okay, so Matt HArdy busted into Raw last night, and everyone thinks it's real because he got handcuffed and taken out of there.

Ignore the fact that security wait until AFTER he grabbed a mic and said his piece. Ignore the fact that the mic was live, meaning they were expecting it to be used. Ignore the fact that they didn't cut him off. Ignore the fact that before coming to ringside, he attacked Edge backstage, so security should have caught him. Ignore the fact that security wouldn't take him up the ring, where more cameras would catch him, and that it would require moving a hostile man closer to both fans and the announce team.

How the fuck was he running around and posting on his website by midnite? He wouldn't even be PROCESSED by then.
Also, Matt Hardy would still be in jail right now, almost guaranteed. Since the earliest he could get out of jail would have been this morning in all reality. That is, presuming his lawyer could even get him up in the queue.

By the time he posted that, they wouldn't have even been done "processing" him.
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...By the time he posted that, they wouldn't have even been done "processing" him.
Hopefully this means processing his ass with a hand in a lubed up rubber glove.

On second thoughts, hopefully no lube at all.
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Aren't they the same thing?

BWAAAA HAAA HAAA HAA HAA....
He said Matt, not Jeff.
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Its a good point though KK, if anyone whose been to a live event and seen someone try get into the ring, you'll know they pretty much get slaughtered.

If this was a shoot then there's no way Hardy would even get close enough to Edge. Plus, who would've let Hardy backstage - conviently just in time for the cameras to catch his attack on Edge.
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Hopefully this means processing his ass with a hand in a lubed up rubber glove.

On second thoughts, hopefully no lube at all.
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He said Matt, not Jeff.

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Its a good point though KK, if anyone whose been to a live event and seen someone try get into the ring, you'll know they pretty much get slaughtered.

If this was a shoot then there's no way Hardy would even get close enough to Edge. Plus, who would've let Hardy backstage - conviently just in time for the cameras to catch his attack on Edge.
With a few touches they could have made it look pretty realistic. And that woulda been cool. Imagine if Matt had never picked up a pic, for example? I mean, when wrestlers shout, we normally hear them anyway.
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With a few touches they could have made it look pretty realistic. And that woulda been cool. Imagine if Matt had never picked up a pic, for example? I mean, when wrestlers shout, we normally hear them anyway.
Not really...but if this was Bubba however....
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With a few touches they could have made it look pretty realistic. And that woulda been cool. Imagine if Matt had never picked up a pic, for example? I mean, when wrestlers shout, we normally hear them anyway.
True. They just needed to look at videos were people had tried to get in the ring previously, and try to recreate it with Matt.

Once anything happens backstage then you know it's all down with the script, no matter how real it might look or feel (isn't that right, Mr Beaver Clevage?)
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Not really...but if this was Bubba however....
Yeah, you're right. We can't hear people without a hot mic in their hands.

I must have been hallucinating like mad when I heard HEidenreich a couple weeks ago. Or Triple H. Or Angle. OR...
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I must have been hallucinating like mad when I heard HEidenreich a couple weeks ago. Or Triple H. Or Angle. OR...
I think that's the schizophrenia kicking in Mr Knight
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True. They just needed to look at videos were people had tried to get in the ring previously, and try to recreate it with Matt.

Once anything happens backstage then you know it's all down with the script, no matter how real it might look or feel (isn't that right, Mr Beaver Clevage?)
Imagine the orgasm everyone'd be having if he got in about the same way the kid who tipped Eddie's ladder did. Then have security haul him off like it was another day at the office. Now DAT...wuld be kuhl.
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Exactly. That would've been a mark out moment for sure!

It would've also put some real substance behind the work or shoot debate we've basically been having all day
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